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Blazing hot Thai or Chinese in Boca or Broward?

aynrandgirl Aug 3, 2008 01:10 AM

I've tried several places but their "hot" is, to put it mildly, pathetic. Actually, I've found that's true of Florida Thai/Chinese restaurants in general, too much sugar & starch and no heat even if you ask for it.

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    gafferx Aug 3, 2008 02:22 AM

    My advice is to ask for the Siracha hot sauce and douse your food. That's as close as you will come in Broward

    Plenty of excellent Chinese and Japanese buffets here in but no genuine Szechuan place. I would definitely be there if we had it. I avoid the Asian restaurants except for the buffets but that's partly my fault. I find Chinese food predictable formulaic, greasy and boring. Probably ate too much of it in my life

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    1. re: gafferx
      aynrandgirl Aug 3, 2008 05:32 AM

      That's sad. I like hot sauce but it's not as yummy as cooked-in heat. I love Szechuan too, but it's also real hard to find in Florida (as in, I haven't found one yet). I've found Chinese buffets in Florida to be monuments to syrupy glop and zero heat, so I don't bother with them. I've had better experiences with Thai, I actually found one whose "Thai hot" does the trick, but it's in Tampa.

      1. re: aynrandgirl
        freakerdude Aug 3, 2008 07:42 AM

        You shouldn't have to Siracha anything if you find the right Sichuan joint. Evidently, there are none. The starchy syrupy glop you talk about is what 99% of the Chinese restos are in SoFla....Ameri-nese.I'd like to find one place that uses Sichuan peppercorns in their food. If you've never had the real deal hot and numbing beef or Shan City chicken, then you are missing out.

        Grand Lakes Chinese in WPB does have a Chinese menu alternative but they do not specialize in sichuan (szechuan). I'd recommend staying away from any Chinese buffet if you are looking for quality food. Buffet typically = minimally priced low grade food. Break out of the buffet scene and you should find much better quality.

        1. re: freakerdude
          aynrandgirl Aug 3, 2008 12:54 PM

          I've had proper hot Chinese, my favorite Chinese joint is Jing Jing in Palo Alto California, which has a "don't order this mild" section on the menu. Unfortunately that's a rather inconvenient drive.

    2. Frodnesor Aug 3, 2008 08:29 AM

      I don't get up to Broward much, but I have generally found in Thai places that the key is to request your food be made "Thai Spicy."

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      1. re: Frodnesor
        makymark02 Aug 4, 2008 07:13 AM

        I agree with Frodnesor i order mine Native spicy so they know i want to be served like a Native would be if he were to request spicy. I am afraid they are to used to people sending food back when they order spicy as they dont know it will be that spicy. I had an dinner once in Seattle where the waitress told me they if i dont like it i cant send it back when i ordered off the real chinese menu.

      2. RickL Aug 3, 2008 03:29 PM

        My favorite Thai restaurant in the Boca-Broward area is Bangkok Palace in Lauderdale Lakes (4345 N State Rd 7 Lauderhill, FL 954-733-0069.) While their Hot is usually sufficient for me, I'd suggest telling the owners (Noi and Richie) that you are looking for "Blazing Hot" food. I'm sure they can accommodate your request.

        Bangkok Palace Cuisine
        4345 N State Road 7, Lauderdale Lakes, FL 33319

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          Semprini Aug 4, 2008 01:31 PM

          Good recommendation, this is one of the few Thai places that will consistently give me "Thai hot" with some nice fire. Other places are less predictable, and I've gotten surprisingly bland food when ordering Thai or five-star hot.

          I agree with aynrandgirl in that the spicyness is best when it's cooked in and the ingredients can absorb the flavor, but I often ask for the spice tray before the soup arrives and the staff never seems offended. At most Thai places, it consists of three small covered dishes containing an assortment chili powder, hot garlic sauce, and the tiny-but-diabolically-hot pickled peppers.

          Can't make a great recommendation on the Chinese front, but I've been going to the Golden Rice Bowl at the corner of Oakland & State Rd. 7 for the hole-in-the wall factor, and the fact that I can sit at the bar and watch the chef cooking at an amazing pace.

          1. re: RickL
            aynrandgirl Mar 16, 2009 11:23 PM

            I ate at Bangkok Palace last night. I ordered the "extra Thai hot", which had a very pleasing burn. The lady who took my order say they usually don't make it really hot because some customers can't eat it and they don't want to waste the food. I thought it bizarre that anybody would order a dish "Thai hot" without having high levels of capsaicin tolerance.

          2. Chandavkl Aug 5, 2008 03:50 PM

            Majority of Chinese food in South Florida is Cantonese/Hong Kong style, and spicy is antithetical to that kind of cuisine. I'm not saying we Cantonese are wimps, but a slight dusting of white pepper is as adventurous as it gets on the spiciness scale. I think you'd meet your match if you could find an authentic Sichuan style restaurant, but the demographics of the Chinese community in Florida aren't going to support something like that.

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            1. re: Chandavkl
              gafferx Aug 5, 2008 04:13 PM

              Coral Springs Super Buffet

              And the new buffet where DuBarry once was--
              1091 S University Dr, Plantation

              The above are very good
              There was a great Vietnamese place on State Rd 7 ---Nam Do
              But it's now a Chinese place

              I'd love a real Schezuan place here. Even one that served some Schezuan Does Silver Pond serve any?

              1. re: gafferx
                Alfred G Aug 6, 2008 10:56 AM

                I haven't found any real Schezuan food at SP. Primarily Hong Kong style. Very little heat.

              2. re: Chandavkl
                RickL Aug 6, 2008 11:29 AM

                When Sichuan cooking has been mentioned on this board a place called Peppers has gotten some favorable comments but I've never tried it:

                1. re: RickL
                  gafferx Aug 6, 2008 06:51 PM

                  I plan to get to Peppers sometime for Szechuan
                  I just phoned up and I think I got the owner

                  It gets some positive buzz on internet

                  1. re: gafferx
                    RickL Aug 7, 2008 08:06 AM

                    According to today's Sun-Sentinel, the phrase to remember is "Wo bu pa la" (literally, "I do not fear spiciness") :-)

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                      gafferx Aug 8, 2008 11:43 AM

                      They said that? In relation to what?
                      I'm impressed.
                      Are they trying to say I should visit Peppers soon for spicy egg roll?

                      1. re: gafferx
                        RickL Aug 8, 2008 12:54 PM

                        Well, not exactly but almost.

                        The article is titled "You Don't Have To Attend The Olympics To Try Authentic Chinese Food" and on page two are some handy phrases to use including the one above.

                        Here's the link: http://snipurl.com/3d310

                        1. re: RickL
                          Chandavkl Aug 8, 2008 01:36 PM

                          Of course, Mandarin phrases may or may not work in a Cantonese restaurant.

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                            gafferx Aug 9, 2008 02:33 AM

                            Thanks a lot. I did make an effort to find it without asking you. That article linked to this on making Chinese Xinjiang lamb kabobs http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/food/sfl-fd07chinafoodr2sbaug07,0,812117.story

                            How about 75 cent duck?

                            1. re: RickL
                              gafferx Aug 9, 2008 02:40 AM

                              Please don't make it too spicy: "Bu yao tai la" or "Wo bu hui chi la."

                              Please make it spicy: "Wo bu pa la" (literally, "I do not fear spiciness").

                              Could I have a glass of cold water?: "Ma fan ni lai yi bei bin shui?"

                              Could I have a bottle of cold beer?: "Ma fan ni lai yi ping pi jiu?"

                  2. Mild Bill Aug 8, 2008 08:21 AM

                    No flame or disrespect here, but I don't know how you guys do it...

                    Yesterday I went to a Tampa Indian lunch-time buffet (Angithi on Fowler) and they had one item there that they billed as spicy...
                    I forget what it was called--- maybe as a survival mechanism...

                    I like a little spiciness, but it was pretty darn hot & vinegarry--- like pepper spray--- and I quickly scraped all evidence of it off of my plate...

                    For a while my Pepsi tasted like club soda--- which kinda demonstrated once more what I concluded decades ago--- that too much heat blankets flavor...

                    I have one of the most appreciative & adventurous palates here I believe--- I don't think I'm wrong--- and if I am, I wonder what's wrong with me...
                    Heck, I'm a hairy 250 pound Alpha male from New Jersey!

                    I want my food to be delicious, I'm not out to prove anything...

                    I would be amazed and impressed if those folks who historically say; "you think that's spicy? My 8 year old daughter eats hotter than that!" can actually taste the food!

                    I'm sure you'll say you can, but I just can't imagine it...

                    When I'm served the wrong wings, my mouth is downright ruined for a short time...

                    Soda and beer only taste like cold burning seltzer...

                    I hope to discover one day that this HOT HOT HOT thing isn't 75% ego...
                    Again, no disrespect intended--- but I certainly have gotten powerful ego vibes over the years from the many hot sauce connoisseurs I've crossed paths with in my life...

                    I hope to taste the right dish, where big heat is masterfully balanced with great flavor...

                    Until then it's a mystery to me...

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                    1. re: Mild Bill
                      aynrandgirl Aug 8, 2008 09:17 AM

                      Chiliheads like me perceive strong heat as pleasurable rather than merely painful. Since the ability to tolerate capsaicin is primarily genetic, not psychological, having a big ego won't get you very far when eating truly hot food.

                      I really can taste the soda afterwards, but it's not all upside. I like strong primary flavors. I say "sweet", friends say "cloying". I say "bland and flavorless", friends say "just right". Foods that are described as "delicately spiced" or "subtly flavored" are utterly wasted on me. I can like them, of course, but the alleged panoply of flavors is more like white light than a rainbow.

                      1. re: aynrandgirl
                        Icantread Aug 8, 2008 11:35 AM

                        my wife will order something blazing hot that makes my ears sweat and then complain that it's too salty. Like that's the problem. I can't taste anything but the fire. I'd say at least for some, it's not pride and ego. Although, if you keep her away from it for a little bit, her tolerance lowers and she becomes even more sensitive to flavors.

                      2. re: Mild Bill
                        RickL Aug 8, 2008 03:21 PM

                        Mild Bill - I agree that sometimes we seem to fixate on HEAT. But most of us are really looking for that balance of heat (and the accompanying endorphin rush) along with great flavor that you mention above. It's just that for some people that threshold is higher than for others.

                        My wife and I both love SE Asian foods. I like Thai dishes hot but usually not Thai hot. She has progressed cautiously to medium on most dishes but has found some that she prefers hot, especially those with sweet chili sauce. We are fairly regular customers at Bangkok Palace and they get it right for both of us.

                        On the other hand, we have been eating a lot of Vietnamese dishes lately, both in restaurants and at home. We love the flavors and the use of fresh herbs and don't miss the heat of the other regional cuisines.

                        To each his or her own taste.

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                        mrschef1 Aug 10, 2008 07:16 AM

                        There is a Thai place in Deerfield called Tamarind. They have consistently good Thai food and sushi. If you know to ask for it, you can request "special sauce" from the sushi bar. I also agree with Frodnesor that using the phrase Thai Spicy will indicate that you don't mean hot for an American palate. There is also a very good mom & pop Chinese place in Boca called Seing House. The chef cooks each item to order at his wok. They don't even offer hot. If you try to order hot, they say "medium?" If you insist, they ask "extra hot?" Extra hot is seriously hot. We love this place. Especially their shrimp in garlic sauce and their homestyle bean curd.

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                        1. re: mrschef1
                          aynrandgirl Aug 10, 2008 09:17 AM

                          Seriously hot sounds perfect!

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                            Chandavkl Aug 10, 2008 10:09 AM

                            Do you have an address for Seing House/

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                              RickL Aug 10, 2008 10:51 AM

                              Good call mrschef1.

                              We've eaten at Tamarind several times and their "Thai Hot" is very hot, at least to my taste. I ordered their green papaya salad Thai hot and it brought tears to my eyes. The food is good and their bento box lunches are a favorite. We like Tamarind but for us there are better places for sushi (Diamutsu) and Thai (Bangkok Palace) or Sushi-Thai (Fah) in the area.

                              Sieng House is a good neighborhood Chinese restaurant. Not much for decor and the menu is limited but the food is good and cooked to order. Shrimp dishes are the best IMO. Here's the address: 1001 SW Second Avenue at Camino Real (Camino Gardens Shopping Center) Boca Raton, FL 33432, 561-447-0807.

                              Here's a review from the Sun-Sentinel: http://snipurl.com/3e69y

                              Sieng House Restaurant
                              1001 SW 2nd Ave, Boca Raton, FL 33432

                              1. re: mrschef1
                                aynrandgirl Mar 3, 2009 09:21 PM

                                I went to Sieng House tonight. I asked for "extra, extra spicy" and it came out not even a little bit spicy. They didn't appear to understand when I asked them to make it hotter. They pointed to the (not spicy) sweet chili and said they asked the cook to put extra in. Overall good flavor, but I have no idea what if anything I can do to get them to cook it "seriously hot". I also went to Tamarind (a week ago) and asked for Thai Hot, but that was barely medium, and they also had no response to my request for more heat, other than to point to the (not very hot) dried pepper condiment dish.

                                1. re: aynrandgirl
                                  lbags Mar 4, 2009 01:28 PM

                                  I went to another Thai place called Tamarind last night, on 71st in the Normandy neighborhood of Miami Beach. Like aynrandgirl, I like my food extremely hot. So I asked for my dish to be prepared "extremely" hot. It came out mild (though it still was pretty good). They gave me a little bowl of hot sauce, more like a paste and not really as hot as most Thai hot sauces brought to the table. It helped, but not much.
                                  My grandfather used to take Tabasco Sauce wherever he went. Sometimes I emulate him and carry little bottles of hot sauce with me to restaurants, though far more blazing than Tabasco. But some hot sauces go better with certain cuisines than others. Also like aynrandgirl, I'm still searching for a Thai or Chinese place that brings tears to my eyes, but I haven't found one yet. BTW, I like Peppers, but its name doesn't live up to the Scoville Scale ranking one might think it should attain.

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                                    HabaneroJane Mar 5, 2009 09:01 AM

                                    Where is this Peppers place? I have YET to have food that's spicy enough for me down here..only place that came close was a Vietnamese place in Orlando.

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                                      aynrandgirl Mar 5, 2009 01:13 PM

                                      I believe this is the location...

                                      Peppers Chinese Restaurant
                                      9976 Pines Blvd, Pembroke Pines, FL 33024

                                      1. re: aynrandgirl
                                        tarepanda Mar 13, 2009 08:21 AM

                                        Peppers can have really spicy dishes, I haven't ordered a la carte for a while as the last few times I was there I had the hot pot buffet. But from what i remember it was spicy. But not great, food wise.

                                        I know you ask for Boca or Broward, but in Miami another szechuan style restaurant is

                                        Lung Gong Restaurant
                                        11920 SW 8th St
                                        Miami, FL 33184, United States
                                        +1 305-553-4644

                                        We had a spicy hotpot once, poured out 90% of the spicy broth (heavy with peppercorn and pepper), add back hot water, and still very spicy. My hubby complained that his digestive system was messed up for a week.

                                        If you can consider Indian, Udipi has pretty spicy stuff too. I always sweat like I'm in sauna. There are also quite a few Korean places in Broward and they are known for their fiery food as well.

                                        And oh considering Chinese is a tonal language and most wait staff here are from the Canton and Fujian regions, you may be better off just nod with a big smile and say "Spicy, yes! Spicy hot good!"

                                      2. re: HabaneroJane
                                        aynrandgirl Mar 14, 2009 06:26 PM

                                        I tried Peppers a couple of days ago. Definitely not spicy enough. I asked for "very spicy" and there was barely any burn.

                                        1. re: HabaneroJane
                                          dbarnard Mar 16, 2009 11:01 AM

                                          Another vote for Peppers here. Had a great meal there on Saturday, but should have ordered it more spicy. I made sure to ask for no MSG, so I didn't get poisoned. Not too expensive, either.

                                          Food was still good for lunch today!

                                          1. re: dbarnard
                                            h2Bn Aug 3, 2009 12:22 PM

                                            I love the plaza where Peppers is located. It has Greek, Haitian, Japanese, Jewish deli, restaurants; an Italian bakery/grocery, Colombian bakery and a Hooters-like "Daisy Duke" restaurant.Great spot!

                                            BTW, Bamboo Gardens across Pines from Peppers has decent food, and is very hot/spicy by request.

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                                    MrBoca May 20, 2009 09:41 AM

                                    Try sushi thai and or Lemon Grass or check out http://www.ybocaraton.com/Boca_Raton/... for more

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