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best onion rings in nova? best fried calamari?

alkapal Aug 1, 2008 07:53 AM

who has the best? how are they prepared (i.e, thick/thin batter? simple flour/meal dusting? cut thick/thin, etc.)

plus, best sauces....yeah! i love aioli.

thanks, i'm having a craving.....

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    Ericandblueboy RE: alkapal Aug 1, 2008 08:11 AM

    there are so many variations....

    I personally like tempura battered onion rings, as for fried calamari, I like it Chinese style (with salt and pepper in the batter). I believe this versions is served in other Asian cultures such as Vietnamnese and Thai.

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      alkapal RE: Ericandblueboy Aug 1, 2008 12:58 PM

      any rest recs, ericandblueboy?

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        Ericandblueboy RE: alkapal Aug 1, 2008 01:07 PM

        Any authentic Cantonese Chinese joint should have something like this:

        Salty Deep Fried Squid w/Chili & Garlic (Mark's Duck House)

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      kneelconqueso RE: alkapal Aug 1, 2008 10:56 AM

      the 'dog collars' at the lost dog in westover (arlington) are really great. tobasco flavored and baked. thin batter

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        aburkavage RE: alkapal Aug 1, 2008 11:03 AM

        I know it's not in NOVA, but the happy hour calamari at Penang in DC is damn tasty. It has a very thin batter with plenty of spice.

        1. monavano RE: alkapal Aug 1, 2008 11:05 AM

          Johnny Rockets does great onion rings. Totally hot, crispy, not greasy. No fancy aoli for dipping, but then again I like ketchup ;-)

          1. monavano RE: alkapal Aug 1, 2008 11:15 AM

            Hank's fried calamari and popcorn shrimp is terrific-I and don't even like calamari! I eat it only at Hanks. Terrific roumelade too.

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              wayne keyser RE: alkapal Aug 1, 2008 12:46 PM

              Onion rings - Popeye's, hands down. Light batter, always fresh (I guess not enough demand to have them sitting ready), wonderful.

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                MsDiPesto RE: wayne keyser Aug 1, 2008 01:44 PM

                But under no circumstances should you attempt to get them at the Annandale location of Popeyes. The last time I went there, the onion rings were battered rounds of the outside inedible skin of the onion.
                Also, every time I've gone to that location, the chicken has been burned to an acrid char.

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                  Aza Mila RE: wayne keyser Aug 1, 2008 01:59 PM

                  I must agree wholeheartedly - Popeye's rings beat a substantial portion of pricier options !

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                  EatOrGoToYourRoom RE: alkapal Aug 1, 2008 01:08 PM

                  Going to have to make a couple of chain recommendations here.
                  McCormick and Schmick's has excellent calamari. Fresh and lightly fried.
                  Ted's Montana Grill has excellent onion rings. Large. Not too greasy. Great taste. And I've had onion rings at some of the higher end steak places in town and they're usually very good at such places. Though I can't recall exactly at which of those restaurants I've had the rings.

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                    dcskinsfan RE: alkapal Aug 1, 2008 01:19 PM

                    I remember Harry's Tap Room in Arlington having pretty good calamari. It's been a while since I've had them though.

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                      theyawns RE: alkapal Aug 1, 2008 02:00 PM

                      the onion rings at Rockland's are quite good and peppery. Thin batter and cut pretty thin. The fried okra is particularly good, too, with a much thicker batter.

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                        MikeR RE: alkapal Aug 1, 2008 04:59 PM

                        A few months ago we had a chowhounds lunch at what used to be Saigon Garden (or maybe a restaurant with a name we don't know located in the Saigon Garden section of the Eden Center) and discovered that it had become the Louisiana Seafood House or something like that. Still Asian-staffed, but now they serve crawfish. Anyway, we made the best of it, and I thought the calamari that they served was some of the best I've ever had. It was tender, not rubbery at all, with a tempura-like batter that stuck all around.

                        I'm not a big calamari eater - I don't order it for myself, but will mooch a couple of rings from someone else's portion - so I don't have a lot of experience here. But I thought this was unusually good, what I'd expect from a real restaurant rather than the usual bar food version.

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                          Martha RE: MikeR Aug 2, 2008 07:24 AM

                          I second the onion rings at Ted's Montana Grill. They are large and dipped into a beer batter. I don't usually like to "waste" calories/fat consumption on onion rings or fries, unless they're going to be worth it. They serve the onion rings with a horseradish-type sauce. Of course, there's also ketchup and malt vinegar at the table.

                        2. Dennis S RE: alkapal Aug 2, 2008 07:41 AM

                          Viet Gardens in Clarendon had the best fried calamari in the area. I didn't care much for the rest of the menu (especially with Nam Viet down the road a block). I don't think they're open anymore due to "progress".

                          Not fried, but I would suggest anyone get the squid salad at Thai Square - my favorite squid appetizer/salad anywhere. Best squid dish in general is Nam Viet's Curried Squid.

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                            alkapal RE: Dennis S Nov 25, 2008 07:35 AM

                            will viet gardens open somewhere else?

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                              Dennis S RE: alkapal Nov 25, 2008 08:30 AM

                              I'm not sure. I'm not down in that area all that much anymore these days.

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                                cheesepowder RE: alkapal Nov 25, 2008 06:32 PM

                                I think Viet Garden is gone for good. Their sign on the door when they closed said to visit their other restaurant Miss Saigon in Georgetown.

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                                flavrmeistr RE: Dennis S Nov 25, 2008 11:14 AM

                                The fried squid at Nam Viet is right up there. I also like the accompanying greens and the lemon-pepper dipping sauce. The salt and pepper squid at Joe's Noodle House is king, though.

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                                  Dennis S RE: flavrmeistr Nov 25, 2008 01:27 PM

                                  Salt and pepper anything at Joes. Sheesh that's good.

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                                    cabster RE: flavrmeistr Nov 25, 2008 05:43 PM

                                    Nam Viet and its neighboring shops are no more. Does anyone know if Nam Viet relocated? I loved the fried squid there.

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                                      Dennis S RE: cabster Nov 25, 2008 06:05 PM

                                      What? Say it ain't so! Are you sure? The condo building built around them. All the store fronts on Clarendon or Fairfax were slated, but I thought the spot on Hudson would maintain a bit longer.

                                      There are (or were) two other locations - Cleveland Park and Arlandria (Del Ray area). Hudson St. was the best, despite a small decline in quality after the owner died a few years back.

                                      Sheesh - all this progress.

                                      Just checked - the site says they have two locations - Hudson and Cleve. Park. Wonder if Arlandria is gone?

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                                        alkapal RE: Dennis S Nov 25, 2008 11:03 PM

                                        nam viet is not gone. cabster, you are thinking of viet garden. nam viet had no neighbors, but now does: a condo.

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                                          pitu RE: alkapal Nov 28, 2008 07:08 AM

                                          Hey, you scared me!
                                          For anyone looking, Nam Viet is on the side street behind The Public Shoe store, a low key landmark for 40 years.

                                          And they really know how to fry stuff, squid or softshell crabs, black pepper sauce....

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                                            Dennis S RE: pitu Nov 28, 2008 11:37 AM

                                            And I have to repeat my broken record of the spicy and sweet salmon soup (get a cup as an appetizer), and the curried squid. We have been able to break the rut and get many other things (all good), but if I were to have a last meal - this would be a good choice.

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                                              pitu RE: Dennis S Nov 28, 2008 01:45 PM

                                              thx Dennis S, I never had either of those...

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                                            cabster RE: alkapal Nov 28, 2008 01:27 PM

                                            Oops, sorry for scaring everyone! I love Nam Viet and hope that it continues to be safe from the crazed developers. I got it mixed up with Viet Garden, which is no more, correct?

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                                              alkapal RE: cabster Nov 28, 2008 03:54 PM

                                              cabster, correctamundo. no worries, mate!

                                  2. Bob W RE: alkapal Aug 2, 2008 11:33 AM

                                    Since chains are in play on this thread, I'll mention Red Robin and Cheeburger Cheeburger for onion rings. Two different styles -- Red Robin's are the drier kind, CC's the greasier kind. Also, Clyde's for calamari. They serve a massive portion (plenty of tentacles) with a great aioli.

                                    I try not to eat a lot of fried crap but o-rings and calamar' (as they say in RI) always get my attention (but as for the calamari not if it's served with marinara, that's just not right).

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                                      ktmoomau RE: Bob W Aug 2, 2008 01:29 PM

                                      I second Cheeburger Cheeburger onion rings, they are my absolute favorite. Hand cut and not real thick, the batter stays on and you don't pull onion out.

                                      I like the grilled calamari at Hook, not fried or in NOVA but very good.

                                    2. alkapal RE: alkapal Nov 25, 2008 07:33 AM

                                      just sendin' a shout out for any new ideas/updates!

                                      happy thanksgiving, folks!

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                                        Meg RE: alkapal Nov 25, 2008 08:48 AM

                                        Mmmmm, one of my favorite topics. Hands down my favorite fried calamari is Argia's in Falls Church. Fried with a cornmeal crust (crunchy and non-greasy), sprinkled with fresh basil and served with a spicy marinara.

                                        And though I haven't been in several years, my favorite onion rings were always the Post Pub's (across from the Wash. Post). Light crunchy batter that just barely clung to the limp rings. Although was at the District Chop House last weekend and their rings, while very different were very respectable. Thick fat onion slabs fully covered in a crisp but light casing of batter. Highly recommend them.

                                        Slightly off topic, but on the topic of calamari I have to give a plug to Idylwood Grill's sauteed calamari appetizer. Unbelievable. It's a pink parmesan sauce with a hint of spice (that they're trying to get approved for bottling it's so good) and the calamari (rings only) are always perfectly cooked never chewy. That, a salad and their bread is my perfect meal these days. Rosemary's Thyme Bistro also has exceptional sauteed calamari.

                                      2. Bob W RE: alkapal Nov 25, 2008 11:23 AM

                                        This is a mouthwatering thread!

                                        A general comment regarding fried squid: If there's no tentacles, it can't be the best. Maybe the best in the subcategory of fried calamari rings, but you gotta have some tentacles on the plate. Rings are fine, but they're just a vehicle for the batter.

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                                          Meg RE: Bob W Nov 25, 2008 11:52 AM

                                          I'm a rings only gal. And it's not the "ewwww" factor, I just don't think they have much taste or substance. To me it's the tentacles that are the vehicle for the batter!

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                                            Bob W RE: Meg Nov 25, 2008 05:43 PM

                                            LOL to be honest, i don't think any part of the squid has much flavor!

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                                          Chownut RE: alkapal Nov 25, 2008 05:19 PM

                                          Red, Hot, and Blue onion loaf....hmmm....

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                                            Ziv RE: alkapal Nov 26, 2008 08:01 AM

                                            My favorite calamari is at Village Bistro, the Bistro Calamari is sauteed in a garlic sauce and it is better than the fried. Bistro style is delicious, just the right amount of garlic and beurre blanc sauce, which is light and not overly rich, great for soaking up with the bread.
                                            Not fried but it is great! I had calamari done local style at Ban Phe in Thailand, lightly sauteed in its own ink, and again, I liked it better than fried squid, not that there is anything wrong with fried calamari. For fried calamari, my favorite is Argias, great taste, excellent crunch.

                                            1. biscuit RE: alkapal Nov 27, 2008 07:53 PM

                                              Calamari at Majestic is amazing. It's also very good at Carlyle.

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                                                arugulafilesdc RE: alkapal Nov 30, 2008 10:32 AM

                                                The calamari at the Black Squirrel is surprisingly good and priced right.

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