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Best Canned Tuna - July 2008

suebette Jul 30, 2008 11:44 AM

Hi All,

I am interested in thoughts on the best canned tuna available - there was a thread posted but it's about a year old so I thought I would see if there is something new/different (old thread = http://www.chowhound.com/topics/306903

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Basically I would be interested in hearing about your favorite brands, where you buy, what the tuna is packed in, and any other info.

Thanks for the tips!
Sue

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  1. Ruth Lafler RE: suebette Jul 30, 2008 11:55 AM

    I go through tuna phases on and off. What's best really depends on what you're going to use it for and why you're eating canned tuna in the first place.

    Tuna packed in olive oil is tasty, but then, what isn't tasty packed in olive oil? Generally when I eat canned tuna I'm in calorie-watching mode, which means no oil-packed tuna. Even though albacore tuna is considered the highest quality, I find it dry and flavorless, so I generally buy yellow fin or skip jack, which is much more flavorful on its own. I like the fillets, rather then the "chunk" and I don't want to spend as much money on canned tuna as I would on fresh. Therefore, taking all those considerations into account, my tuna of choice at the moment is:

    Tonnino yellowfin tuna fillets with lemon in spring water.

    It's not insanely expensive, either, although the price has gone up considerably in the two years I've been buying it. I just looked at their site and they show it in glass jars, but I've always bought it in those pull-tab tins more often associated with sardines.

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      Scrapironchef RE: Ruth Lafler Aug 1, 2008 02:11 PM

      Alton just did a show on tuna and leans towards the pouches as they aren't cooked as much in the canning process. He did like the canned ventrescas for dishes where the tuna was the true star of the show.

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        Ruth Lafler RE: Scrapironchef Aug 1, 2008 03:24 PM

        We did a tuna tasting a few years back, and the pouched tuna came in dead last, with comments like "cottony" and "worse than catfood."

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          Scrapironchef RE: Ruth Lafler Aug 2, 2008 12:09 PM

          Anything more recent? I've tried a few in the last couple of weeks and found them quite good.

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            Ruth Lafler RE: Scrapironchef Aug 3, 2008 03:40 PM

            Maybe there are some good brands -- I think ours was just StarKist. What brands have you tried that you liked?

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              coney with everything RE: Scrapironchef Aug 12, 2008 05:36 AM

              I think CI just did a compare and liked the pouched stuff as fresher tasting.

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                Ruth Lafler RE: coney with everything Aug 15, 2008 09:24 AM

                I often find that my taste differs widely from that of an "expert" tasting panel. In my experience tasting panels -- especially CI, which in admittedly limited samples I've found to be blandly mainstream -- skew toward the one that no one on the panel objects to, rather than the ones that individual panel members think are best. In this case, "fresher" might just be another way of saying "not strong tasting."

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            Pollo RE: Scrapironchef Aug 15, 2008 08:48 AM

            Pouch tuna gets the same thermal process the cans do....

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              FoodFuser RE: Pollo Aug 15, 2008 10:10 PM

              Both cans and pouches are indeed put into the retort cooker, a steam pressure cooker. But, the pouches get far less time in there.

              Clip from Starkist spokesperson:
              ...“most important advantage is that the product in the pouch is of a higher quality and better tasting [than tuna in the can] because of the process. With the [flat] pouch, we only have to retort it for 45 minutes, versus four hours in a can, to kill off bacteria.”

              From this ref:

              http://www.howstuffworks.com/framed.h...

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                Pollo RE: FoodFuser Aug 16, 2008 03:33 PM

                Both products in cans or in pouches are cooked to the same lethality (Fo). The difference in length of cooks is due to the container geometry. In the end it makes minimal or no difference to texture/flavor since all the canned/pouched tuna that is on the market right now is fully cooked before it is portioned, put in the containers and retorted.

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                  FoodFuser RE: Pollo Aug 17, 2008 10:30 PM

                  I hope you'll tell us more, and even provide links, about the cooking processes, especially in the "less cooked" varieties that are more expensive. Could it be the pre-cooking, and not just the tuna species, that is more important?

                  What is "lethality (Fo)"?

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                    Pollo RE: FoodFuser Aug 21, 2008 08:04 PM

                    All commercially packed tuna is pre-cooked before cleaning/portioning/packing/retorting and cooked to more or less the same Fo value. Fo is the equivalent cumulative time coldest spot of the container (and product - tuna) is at 250 deg. F.

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                  Pollo RE: FoodFuser Aug 21, 2008 07:32 PM

                  Like I said before: cook times depend on container geometry so a 1 lb can will be cooked longer in order for the center of the container to achieve the required lethality and the product next to the can surface will be over cooked. The same amount of product (1 lb) in a pouch will take less cook time simply because it is flat and the distance heat has to travel to the coldest portion of the product is much shorter. Tuna beeing packed in pouches is not of any "higher" quality that the stuff beeing packed in cans....that's pure marketing. Also, when retorting the product you are not targeting to kill bacteria but spores.

          3. BobB RE: suebette Jul 30, 2008 02:43 PM

            I'll stick with my previous response: Pastene light tuna in olive oil. All tuna in water tastes like cardboard to me, and while this one is not of the super-gourmet ventresca quality, it's also a LOT less expensive (not much over $2 a can, compared to over $30 for some of the more extreme options!) and superior to any of the standard American brands.

            It's full of flavor, and great for everything from tuna salad to vitello tonnato.

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              alkapal RE: BobB Jul 30, 2008 03:33 PM

              bob, do you buy your pastene brand at a national chain? i don't think i've seen it here in northern virginia (safeway, giant, harris teeter grocery stores).
              i'm paying around 2 bucks for genova brand in olive oil (on sale from a regular 2.49 pretty regularly).

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                BobB RE: alkapal Jul 31, 2008 06:08 AM

                I don't know that we have any national chains here in New England - the two major chains are Shaw's (formerly Star Markets) and Stop & Shop, but I don't know whether they're national or not.

                I usually buy it at Shaw's but am pretty sure Stop & Shop carries it too.

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                  Fishyaftertaste RE: BobB Jul 31, 2008 10:12 AM

                  Dont Forget Market Basket!

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                    LindaWhit RE: BobB Jul 31, 2008 10:17 AM

                    Really the only "national" chain we have are Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. I usually get the Genova brand at TJ's for a decent price, like alkapal.

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                  alkapal RE: BobB Aug 1, 2008 06:34 AM

                  slightly ot, but pastene has a new cookbook, but all the recipes are right here! http://www.pastene.com/eng_recipes.html

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                  normalheightsfoodie RE: suebette Jul 30, 2008 03:01 PM

                  For canned tuna I think trader joe's has a good one in both water and oil.

                  Whole Foods and Traders both have canned Tuna in a Jar, called Tonnino. I use the Tonnino to cook with. It is a little more expensive than canned tuna, so I save the Trader Joes brand for Sandwiches.

                  1. alkapal RE: suebette Jul 30, 2008 03:24 PM

                    right now i'm liking the starkist gourmet light tuna fillets in olive oil.
                    http://www.starkist.com/template.asp?...
                    also the genova brand in olive oil.

                    there is a local pizza/pasta chain with a salad bar that has the greatest "tuna-y" tuna. it is somewhat darker in color (not albacore). i wonder who supplies that? (but I'd probably have to buy it in gallon containers! the place is joe's pizza and pasta in northern virginia).

                    1. Sarah RE: suebette Jul 30, 2008 04:06 PM

                      Just got back from TJ -- bought some Genova Tonno (solid light tuna in olive oil) and TJ's Albacore Solid White Tuna in oo (lots of other choices). Haven't tried either, but it's my first experiment. Also got some Alaskan Smoked Salmon because someone raved about it but haven't a clue what to do with it!!

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                        suebette RE: Sarah Jul 30, 2008 05:27 PM

                        Thanks everyone for responding - I am going to do a round-up list of all recs in a couple of days and post it - thanks again for your time and input - it is a big help.
                        - Sue

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                          ChowinDown RE: suebette Jul 31, 2008 09:50 AM

                          I usually buy Chicken of the Sea and i think its good. Ill have to try others and compare them.

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                            markabauman RE: suebette Jul 31, 2008 09:59 AM

                            For a treat, especially if your making something like an Italian bean/tuna salad, you might want to consider either Flott tuna from Italy or Ortiz from Spain.

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                            normalheightsfoodie RE: Sarah Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM

                            I sometimes use the salmon in pasta. I mix it with oil, seeded tomatoes and peas, and toss it over hot pasta.

                            I use the Genova Tonno the same way.

                            I usually just warm the sauce, it breaks down the diced tomatoes and gets the flavors to "percolate".

                          3. kare_raisu RE: suebette Aug 1, 2008 02:17 PM

                            Ortiz from Spain in Olive Oil the bonito del norte - Whole Paycheck!
                            http://www.amazon.com/Bonito-Del-Nort...

                            SPANISH TUNA rules

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                              alkapal RE: kare_raisu Aug 1, 2008 04:40 PM

                              $14 for 6 oz. whole paycheck, indeed!

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                                wally RE: kare_raisu Aug 2, 2008 11:15 AM

                                Ortiz from Spain in Olive Oil the bonito del norte--ventresca!

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                                  markemorse RE: kare_raisu Aug 2, 2008 12:31 PM

                                  Another vote for Ortiz bonito del norte...Google Rosengarten's tuna taste-off for other ideas...

                                2. tatamagouche RE: suebette Aug 1, 2008 05:07 PM

                                  You might, BTW, look for a back issue of Saveur—2003 or 2004, I think—devoted to this topic.

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                                    NE_Elaine RE: suebette Aug 1, 2008 05:53 PM

                                    I just discovered the best tuna ever! IMHO. It is Henry and Lisa's Solid White Abacore Tuna. The ingredients are tuna, salt and nothing else. The only problem is that it is hard to find, the next time I see it, I am buying a case.

                                    http://www.ecofish.com/

                                    1. alkapal RE: suebette Aug 3, 2008 05:00 AM

                                      how much do you pay for your canned tuna, hounds?
                                      ortiz brand from spain is $14 for a 6 ounce can on amazon. i think that must be some AWESOME tuna for that much dough. wow!

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                                        wally RE: alkapal Aug 3, 2008 11:22 AM

                                        If it is ventresca, that is close. You ought to try it.

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                                          alkapal RE: wally Aug 3, 2008 02:44 PM

                                          that is too rich for my blood....

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                                            wally RE: alkapal Aug 4, 2008 06:13 PM

                                            It is not run of the mill tuna. Most of the tuna I eat is fresh, and then there is this stuff. It is the belly.

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                                              suebette RE: wally Aug 4, 2008 06:49 PM

                                              Hi All,
                                              Well we did the taste-off on Sunday and the Ortiz brands ended up being the big winner - even with their hefty price tag.
                                              I posted our report here: www.feelgoodeats.com
                                              Feel free to send me any thoughts or questions.
                                              Thanks for your help!!
                                              Sue

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                                                alkapal RE: suebette Aug 5, 2008 04:23 AM

                                                thanks for the report, suebette.

                                                i noticed the genova tonno was 4 bucks at whole paycheck. that is much higher than the regular price of 2.49 (and 1.99 on sale) at my local grocery, harris teeter.

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                                                  eekamouse RE: alkapal Aug 11, 2008 05:05 PM

                                                  Oregon's Choice (www.oregonschoice.com) has white meat Albacore tuna packed only in it's own natural juices (no water, oil, preservatives). It's actually really reasonably priced for being a gourmet tuna, at around $4.50/can. Oh, and it's sustainably caught and family run.

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                                                    alkapal RE: eekamouse Aug 12, 2008 07:03 AM

                                                    you know, for those prices around $4 per can, you can buy fresh tuna. but, of course, fresh tuna won't sit on your shelf waiting for a tuna salad craving to hit you.

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                                                      girlamy RE: eekamouse Aug 12, 2008 01:18 PM

                                                      I would have to say Ditto on Oregon's Choice (http://www.oregonschoice.com). Their albacore fishery is sustainable, and their tuna is much lower in mercury than most on the market.

                                                       
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                                                        suebette RE: girlamy Aug 15, 2008 05:17 AM

                                                        Thanks for the notes on Oregon's choice - I am heading up to Portland in a couple of weeks so I will pick some up!

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                                                          cstr RE: girlamy Aug 15, 2008 05:43 AM

                                                          How can they claim that? Is their ocean on a different planet?

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                                                            Pollo RE: cstr Aug 15, 2008 08:53 AM

                                                            Dave's tuna is v. good but there is another producer that will be supplying fresh packed tuna form Hawaii. I had a chance to try their product and is way better than anything on the market including the Ortiz brand....way better. It should be available in 2-3 months....

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                                                              LindaWhit RE: Pollo Aug 18, 2008 09:59 AM

                                                              And is it a secret as to who this Hawai'ian tuna producer will be? Can you let us know so we know where in the Continental States it will be available in 2-3 months?

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                                                                Pollo RE: LindaWhit Aug 21, 2008 08:06 PM

                                                                Will post as soon as I have any contact/purchasing information available. This stuff is realy good....you can definitively tell the difference when the tuna is not frozen and not pre-cooked.

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                                                              gourmanda RE: cstr Oct 6, 2008 01:32 PM

                                                              A brief check of their website reveals "...unique among canned tuna because it is produced by an individual fisherman. That would be me - Herb Goblirsch. My fishing vessel, F/V EZC, uses only hook and line to catch Albacore tuna ...." "... as of August 25, 2008 we have been awarded the Marine Stewardship Council Chain of Custody Certification ensuring that our albacore is sustainably harvested and eco friendly." A big reason the majority of canned tuna is horrible for the planet is that it is caught by purse seine which takes in an incredible amount of by-catch. Rays, other fish, seals, etc. are often caught, die and are thrown overboard with this type of netting. I will definitely be looking into this brand!

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                                                                blackbirdpie RE: cstr Feb 2, 2009 12:49 PM

                                                                It's poll & troll caught. Surface swimming albacore are younger (adolescent) fish with the lowest mercury levels. Most outfits that make such a claim have mercury reports to back it up. If they can't, be weary as labeling "low mercury", hasn't quite fallen under strict guidelines.

                                                                Another brand to try out is American Tuna. It's sold at my local Whole Foods as well as local grocer. They have a cool video on their site showing the poll/troll caught method:

                                                                http://americantuna.com/

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                                                                  AHan RE: blackbirdpie Feb 2, 2009 02:28 PM

                                                                  This is a great line:
                                                                  http://www.tunaguys.net/index.html

                                                                  I was a regular customer, a few cases a year back when it was a little over $2/can. It's pushing 4 now with shipping, so haven't bought in a while. I eat it right out of the can.

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