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ascendance Jul 28, 2008 08:29 PM

I've been hearing about this magical new coffee maker, and I'm wondering which places in Toronto use it. I've read a post saying there's a place out in the Junction, but I'm hoping to find something a little closer.

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    Brennius Jul 28, 2008 08:35 PM

    Manic Coffee, 426 College (just E. of Bathurst).

    And eventually, every Starbucks in town, as Starbucks has acquired the Clover manufacturer.

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      artificialard Jul 28, 2008 09:35 PM

      Manic is in a pretty accessible location and is just a great place to hangout. The people are approachably casual but are always excited to talk 'coffee' with an interested customer - don't be afraid to ask about the various beans, the process, etc.

      Also I'm pretty sure their muffins come from elsewhere but they're excellent with a juicy berry centre! (And I don't even like muffins).

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      Manic
      426 College St, Toronto, ON M5T1T3, CA

    2. num nums Jul 28, 2008 09:23 PM

      Pennylicks in Kensington Market also has one. They're on Augusta just a few doors north of El Trompo.

      1. jeninewsbite Jul 29, 2008 08:02 AM

        I *think* that Coffeeholic on Eglinton (just west of Bathurst) has it, but I haven't yet been there myself to confirm.

        1. aser Jul 29, 2008 08:53 AM

          The one in the Junction that recently opened w/ a clover is called Crema.

          http://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2008/...

          The clover is a highly intricate machine, so having the machine doesn't mean much w/o baristas that are trained to use it properly. I must say Manic's staff always deliver a winning cup w/ their Clover.

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            detritus Jul 29, 2008 12:29 PM

            Note that any shop that doesn't already have one, probably never will. Starbucks bought out the manufacturer and is no longer making them available.

            -Josh

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              detritus Jul 29, 2008 12:34 PM

              Also note that regardless of how great the Clover is, it's only as good as what you put into it: freshly roasted, high-quality beans.

              Since the great thing about the Clover is how it brings out many of the subtler nuances in a particular bean/blend, if you put shitty coffee in, you'll get shitty coffee out.

              Manic (on College@Bathurst) and Crema (on Dundas@Quebec) both use great coffee (Intelligentsia and 49th Parallel at Manic and 49th Parallel at Crema).

              -Josh

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                Recyclor Jul 29, 2008 12:40 PM

                The one good thing Star#ucks is doing with the Clover buy out is allowing the network to stay up, I was pleasantly surprised to hear that...

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                  peppermint pate Jul 29, 2008 01:12 PM

                  I'm intrigued by this whole Starbucks angle. Did Starbucks buy out the machines with the intention of outfitting their stores or did they do it to silence the competition? And what is the "network" that you're referring to?

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                    Recyclor Jul 29, 2008 01:23 PM

                    I heard the scoop from the guys at Manic, the buy out was to control the market place, I think they were going to make it their own and use them but maybe found it too costly or something and are just keeping it to themselves for now, the machines are around $14k...the network is a feature of the machine, they are all connected online and users can access a huge ever growing data base created by all the users for recipes, techniques, tips and stuff...honestly that is just about I can remember, google it and I'm sure there will be some articles from the last year...or better yet, go to Manic or Crema, have a stellar coffee from it and chat up the barista...

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