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Schneider Hopfen Weisse

Josh Jul 26, 2008 02:48 PM

Collaboration between Schneider and Garrett Oliver. Pale weissbock, dry hopped with Hallertaur. 8.3% but you'd never know it. Really tasty stuff. Banana and clove notes, with a citrusy zing from the hopping. Definitely worth a try.

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    LStaff RE: Josh Jul 26, 2008 02:59 PM

    I really like the Schneider brewed version of this collaboration, the Brooklyn brewed one, not so much.

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      brentk RE: LStaff Jul 26, 2008 03:57 PM

      Funny, I came away with just the opposite impression. I didn't particularly care for the lemony, herbacious hop character of the Schneider but I loved the pineapple and pine hop profile, as well as the spices I found in the Brooklyn.

      I guess that's why they make vanilla and chocolate.

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        LStaff RE: brentk Jul 26, 2008 07:29 PM

        Brooklyn version is too phenolicy with overpowering clove and cinnamon for my tastes which I think conflicts harshly with the hops. Schneider version is more balanced between banana and cloves with that wonderful Hallertauer flavor - anyone know if the second brewing of this version is still using Saphir hops?

        Yup, different strokes for different folks.

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          FlaHopper RE: LStaff Jul 28, 2008 01:36 PM

          The bottle of Schneider I bought a week or so ago was dry hopped using the Saphir hops. By the way, what does phenolicy mean? Even my trusty Websters doesn't give me a satisfactory answer.

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            niquejim RE: FlaHopper Jul 29, 2008 06:59 PM

            Cliff Notes version

            Phenols(spice) are flavors created at lower temps
            Esters(fruit) are flavors created at higher temps

    2. JessKidden RE: Josh Jul 27, 2008 03:31 AM

      The aroma alone makes this beer "worth a try" <g>. I think I spend the first ten minutes after pouring it into the largest weiss beer glass I have just smelling the stuff. Ditto that the alcohol is extremely well hidden. It was a bit of a shock to be tasting both the German weiss beer yeast notes AND hops at first (I can understand LStaff's saying the "conflict" in the Brooklyn version), but I quickly came to love the stuff.

      Still haven't done a side by side with the Brooklyn-Schnieder version - mostly because of the expensive and relative rarity of the B-S and the amount of alcohol that would be consumed after two bottles of both. Probably would be an ideal thing to do in partnership with another beer lover.

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        FlaHopper RE: Josh Jul 28, 2008 01:34 PM

        I did a side-by-side of these recently (http://eatanddrinkitall.blogspot.com/...) and enjoyed them both, but prefered the Brooklyn version. I liked that it was more robust than Schneider's, which seemed to stick closer to the flavors traditional in weisse beer. Still, I thought doing the project was a great idea.

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          kelarry RE: Josh Jul 31, 2008 12:52 AM

          Terrific collaboration. Period.

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            TBird RE: kelarry Aug 13, 2008 05:39 PM

            agreed. just brought home the last 3 whole foods had. enjoyed about 18 of them last year, this year i found 'em too late.

          2. jgg13 RE: Josh Aug 5, 2008 12:34 PM

            Another vote for the "different stroke" notion. I liked the Schneider one better, which really didn't surprise me. I first heard about this on a craft beer podcast (forget which one) and while they liked the Brooklyn better, from their descriptions of the two I was pretty sure I'd like the Schneider more.

            Still, I think the idea is an awesome one.

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              craig_g RE: Josh Aug 12, 2008 12:07 PM

              I've had this a number of times recently and love it.

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                hawaiigrl2003 RE: Josh Sep 19, 2008 12:58 AM

                Not a fan of Brooklyn beer, but Schneider really knows how to help em out! Delicious.

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                  kidtofu RE: hawaiigrl2003 Jul 24, 2009 10:15 AM

                  Good Lord, this is delicious.

                  First, as a Londoner, my favourite beers are probably Aventinus and 90min DFH IPA, so this is exciting for me.

                  I'm drinking the yellow/blue version I assume is the Schneider, from Utobeer @ Borough Market in London. We often have to pay up to 8-10£ for decent American curiosities so I'm thankful this was around the 3£ mark and will be back shortly to purchase the rest of their stock.

                  Delightful, the best of both worlds. The alcohol content is a bit of a bugger, given the delicious taste.

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                    Josh RE: kidtofu Jul 24, 2009 11:41 AM

                    Both beers have blue/yellow labels. The difference is which logo, and the size of the bottle. The Brooklyn version is 750mL, the German 500. Brooklyn's has their logo, and Schneider's theirs. Either one is fantastic.

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                      JessKidden RE: Josh Jul 24, 2009 01:06 PM

                      "Brooklyn's has their logo, and Schneider's theirs."

                      Unless one comes across a bottle from the first batch of the Schneider-Brooklyner (i.e., brewed at Schneider, as opposed to the Brooklyner-Schneider, from Brooklyn), which did have the Brooklyn "B" logo on the label.
                      http://www.bunitedint.com/store/image...

                      "Either one is fantastic."

                      Yup- in fact, I opened a S-B (batch 2- no "B") upon reading this thread...

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                        kidtofu RE: Josh Jul 27, 2009 01:08 AM

                        A-ha, well it was the 500, would love to try the Brooklyn on my next trip stateside, is it available at decent beer stores in NY?

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                          JessKidden RE: kidtofu Jul 27, 2009 05:24 AM

                          The Brooklyner-Schneider Hopfen Weisse is relatively easy to find in the NYC metro area - dependent on the release date, of course. Haven't kept a good track of how often they're brewing it nor the number of batches up until now (first was all-draft, IIRC, then a couple of bottlings- notable due to a change in bottle design after the threat of a lawsuit over the "ring" around the neck by New Belgian Brewing Co. and some Belgian brewers http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/200... ) but the fact that it's now got it's own page on the Brooklyn website implies it's apparently at least "semi-regular" release now.

                          http://www.brooklynbrewery.com/beer/?...

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