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Jul 24, 2008 07:10 PM

Quincaillerie Hogg...surprises

(note to moderators, this post is about a local hardware store selling british food stuff)

In Westmount, at the Hogg Hardware store.

I discovered a few months ago that I could get some Maynards' Wine Gums gummy candies, I go there at least once a week to get my fix of them.

But I never really stop and look around, they have a weird selection of english products.

Most are jams, marmelades, crackers and stuff like that.

They also have Marmite, that weird spread from the british ilses; I never tried it, so got a small jar; not certain I like it or not, but that's for another topic.

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  1. Hogg Rocks !!! Yes they are probably the only place where you can purchase steel cut oatmeal, milk paint and a deluxe bar-b-que. However their greatest asset is Wilder who works downstairs. A hulk of a friendly guy with all kinds of useful information on everything from renovations to charcoal grilling.

    1. Ummm, I have seen Maynard's wine gums many places, including the Ultramar on the corner of Mariette and Sherbrooke in NDG. I've also seen steel cut Oatmeal at both markets and I am nearly sure that they carry cans of it at the IGA in the CSL shopping center.

      I do love Hogg though, especially around the holidays, if you're looking for an unusual tree ornament, they have quite the selection.

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      1. re: maisonbistro

        Yes, you can even buy McCanns Steel cut oats in Metro now,

        But you can not buy the Oatmeal, the milk paint, and the Deluxe BBQ at Metro....

        This is like saying I can go to JC Pereault in the West island to buy a deluxe Naugahyde covered Lazyboy with integrated beer fridge, a Big Green Egg, and some designer hot sauce.

          1. re: maisonbistro

            The point is...... Crispy1 was impressed by the diversity and odd selection of products at Hogg. My counterpoint was an example of a similar trend where a furniture retailer is now selling 'gourmet' grill seasonings.

            The question is whether this move towards synergistic retailing is logical or absurd. Hogg which once was a Pascals store, was purely hardware. If you needed hardware in Westmount, this was the place to go. When Hogg took over, the store became more of a bazaar, with everything from Bosch vaccuums, high end Bar-B-Ques, to paint, kitchenwares, some tools, some hardware, and an eclectic collection of mostly British canned and dry foods.

            Would you go to Hogg for hardware today, perhaps not. Would you go there for a new measuring cup, or an overpriced bar-b-que, definitely. I am not sure what the focus of Hogg is, but I don't think that they could tell you either. But it is amusing to go in and try to figure out where they fit in the food chain.

            If you really want to see retail science in action, cross the street to Metro Fletcher. A few years back, they hired some traffic specialists to analyze the stores layout, and optimize the layout. What used to be an orderly store with easy to find products, is now a maze of confusing product arrangements.

            As an example, if you want bagels, don't go to the bread seciton, they will be in the fish department near the smoked salmon. Want seasoning, or spices? Bulk is near the fruits and veggies, bottled is near the flour and sugar, and others will be near the fish or meat. Need crackers? It depends on what you need, some are with the cheese, others will be in one of 4 locations on various shelves in various isles, and the rest will be near the bread section.

            The science of retailing has become too related to psychology, and I honestly wonder whether the model at Hogg, JC Perrault or Metro actually can be proven to have any merit. I for one, would not consider going to a home furnishings store for marinade, or a hardware store for oatmeal.

            This is my point.

            1. re: fedelst1

              Thank you fedelst1, but actually my point was that I like the nice friendly service I get at Hogg. The salepeople are helpful and kind unlike so many people these days.

              1. re: fedelst1

                THanks for explaining it because I didn't get it the first time. I flunked economics 101 25 years ago. Must be because I missed that particular lecture.

                1. re: fedelst1

                  Actually, we bought our BBQ from Hogg, and it was far from overpriced - not only that, but they happily deliver and assemble it for you! They are indeed a delight to deal with, and while we rely on Home Depot and Reno Depot for many of our hardware needs, we still pick up things at Hogg on a fairly regular basis, as do many people in this area.
                  I think that they focused on selling hardware and BBQs until the Home Depot opened nearby, then had to figure out what they should be selling to remain in business in light of the competition - which it seems they've managed to do.

                  1. re: cherylmtl

                    I just like saying "Lets go to HOGG" - has a certian ring.

                    1. re: cherylmtl

                      Don't get me wrong. I like Hogg as much as anyone who has shopped there. It is just far more eclectic than what you would find at any hardware store.

                      And, not being a huge fan of gas grills, I find that anu gas grill is over priced as compared with any good charcoal grill. In all fairness, I am sure that their prices for gas grills are in line with anyplace else.

                      When Home Depot opened on St. Jacques, I feared the worse for Hogg. I am pleased that they have proven their place in Westmount, and are able to stand up to a bix box store opening is such close proximity.

                      1. re: fedelst1

                        Every so often, I like to drop into Hogg to hear the BBQ guy doing his schpiel for someone, yapping on and on about which "machine" is right for you, and which "machine" he likes to cook on.and how the good "machines" have special "flavourizer" capability. Cheaper than a movie, and much more entertaining.

                        Hogg has become a bit of a parody of their former self...uh, selves. They've had no choice but to adapt in light the BORG down the hill from them sweeping up virtually all of the hardware business. So even though I can't help but laugh at how they are really not a hardware store at all anymore, I completely understand. It's not easy. There was a somewhat similar Rona in the Cote St. Luc shopping center that didn't fare as well. The Reno Depot in NDG basically killed them, despite their expansion of the kitchenalia and decor section.

                    2. re: fedelst1

                      Having shopped at Hogg a few times, I've never had the impression that their uneven selection of products followed any kind of 'model' at all - it seems kinda random to me (except for maybe the BBQ section in the front).

                      Your description of what the 'retail scientists' did to Metro Fletcher makes me nauseous. I've been in stores that follow that model and it drives me CRAZY...but then anything that extends the time you spend in the store means more money in their tills, right? :-/

                2. re: maisonbistro

                  You're right. The IGA at the Cote St. Luc SC has McCann's as well as some others.

                3. I think the beauty of owning one of these little hardware stores is that you can stock whatever you feel like getting wholesale for yourself. I've never been to Hogg, but there are 2 of these little stores near my house that have pretty much turned into old style general stores.

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                  1. re: Venusia

                    Hogg isn't exactly a "little" hardware store - it's pretty decently sized, but they definitely cater to the residents of Westmount and NDG in terms of what they carry, and their service. It's not quite a general store, although they are carrying an ever-more eclectic range of goods.