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ooroger Jul 21, 2008 10:54 AM

Last night I caught a couple of promos for Ted Allen's new show, soon to be broadcast on The Food Network. It would appear that the theme is "answering your questions about food through science", which naturally brings Good Eats to mind.

While Ted is certainly one of the more intelligent foodies around, I was surprised that his show would go in that direction.

Firstly, when I have questions about food, they tend to be about how to make something, not what particles comprise it. Not sure how many TFN regulars really care for yet another show on the logistics of food.

Secondly, while his past experience has been centered on demystifying food (for the benefit of men on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy) I would have thought that his fun personality would be better suited to reprising that kind of role--helping novices get to grips with interesting cuisine--or something on wine; varietals, flavors, uses, etc.

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    jlafler Jul 21, 2008 11:18 AM

    My first thought when I saw the ad was "Hmmm. Maybe Alton Brown is quitting Good Eats in favor of Asphalt."

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      Miss Needle Jul 21, 2008 06:23 PM

      Yeah, it sounds very similar to Good Eats. I'll be happy to watch Ted Allen. He's got a very bright and witty personality. Alton sometimes comes off as a bit too sarcastic and a bit too hokey for my taste. Allen has never rubbed me the wrong way in everything I've seen him in.

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        jlafler Jul 21, 2008 07:50 PM

        Ted Allen is sweet. I go hot and cold on Alton -- sometimes I think he's hilarious, others I think "okay okay okay, cut to the chase!"

    2. BarmyFotheringayPhipps Jul 21, 2008 11:59 AM

      No, the vibe I get from those ads isn't Good Eats so much as it's Mythbusters.

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        HarryK Jul 21, 2008 03:52 PM

        Or Bill Nye, The Science Guy. :)

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        steveTV Jul 22, 2008 05:17 PM

        It would be a huge mistake to take Alton Brown off of what he does best which is the incredible clever, well-researched, well-written and wildly entertaining "Good Eats". Of course that could be just what the increasingly clueless managers at TFN would do. Ted Allen is totally pompous and not someone that I would make any effort to watch. His work as a judge on Iron Chef and Top Chef proves that he knows food but then so does my grandmother. I suspect that the hiring of Ted Allen has more to do with the desire of the network to get a "diverse" perspective than with anything related to programming information. Biggest mistake they made was taking Mario Batali, arguable the biggest name chef in the country, off their schedule. Put Ted Allen on a show with Sandra Lee and just watch the fireworks begin. It would be fabulous with a capital FAB.

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          James Cristinian Jul 31, 2008 05:52 PM

          I just watched about two minutes of Ted Allen's new show on the heels of Alton Brown, it just seemed like a worse version. I can only take so much Alton Brown, but these two back to back is too much to take. For you AB lovers, I bet if Sandra Lee, Giada, Rache, or Paula, did a show like his, they would be buried for doing the exact same thing.

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            Minger Aug 2, 2008 05:23 AM

            I haven't seen Ted Allen's new show yet, but my reaction is the opposite of yours. I find Alton Brown totally pompous. Pompous in the sense of knowing it all and being too didactic. If Jacques Pepin were to explain the same things Alton does, you would feel he has *mastered* what he is explaining. With Alton you get the feeling that he is merely regurgitating what he researched therefore claiming a sort of false authority with his heavy style.

            Ted Allen strikes me as knowing from experience and sincere.

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              James Cristinian Aug 2, 2008 11:54 AM

              Maybe I did not express myself correctly on Alton Brown, I agree with you, well stated. I also find him somewhat condescending on Feasting On Asphalt with some of the folks he encounters as far as their cooking styles. He may come off as funny in this regard to some, but not to me. As far as Ted Allen goes, I enjoy him on Iron Chef and especially Top Chef, I just do not like his new show, but I'll give him one more shot.

          2. tastyjon Jul 23, 2008 12:54 AM

            Agreed. He seems to have very refined knowledge coupled with authority but his demeanor is warm and helpful. He seems the type of friend you'd want to have in order to ask what wine to serve - or a dish idea for a first date, etc. In short, a great person to elevate the exploration of food/drink among viewers.

            Instead, the promos seem to have him exploring how long swallowed gum stays in the stomach and the impact of double dipping. It seems an awful waste of talent.

            Even though the science aspect of Good Eats doesn't jive with some, it's always focused on getting the best out of whatever item is featured. The new TA show seems to be hitting lower, going after urban myths and other tangental topics.

            1. Chew on That Aug 1, 2008 02:12 PM

              I thought the first episode was just ok. They started off with some cliche questions but I guess it's informative. It seems too much to me like Alton Brown's show...which I like better so far.

              I liked Ted Allen a little bit more before this...

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                MiseEnPlace07 Aug 1, 2008 04:19 PM

                First let me state that I love Good Eats and am an unapologetic Alton Brown fan! :) But the reason I love Good Eats if for the food science aspect. That's what attracted me to the show in the first place.

                I really liked Ted Allen on Queer Eye and as a judge on Iron Chef America he's great. I watched the first episode and gave up about 10 minutes in... Alton covered this on Good Eats.

                I wasn't too impressed with the first show, but if Ted covers something that Alton hasn't maybe I'll watch.

                1. Phaedrus Aug 2, 2008 06:37 AM

                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/543044

                  Here is another thread about the show. Most people thought it was terrible, myself amongst them. Too cute, too fake, and the alleged "science" too dodgy.

                  I still like Ted Allen, I just can't believe he let the morons at FN talk him into this one.

                  1. alkapal Aug 2, 2008 09:06 AM

                    oh, even the promos are sooooo painful to watch! i'll bet ted allen is sooooo sorry he got roped into this tragic show (cause he does seem very forced and uncomfortable doing the show.)

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                      kmcarr Aug 2, 2008 12:16 PM

                      Ted Allen is an intelligent adult, why do so many people seem to think that he got "roped into" or "let the morons at FN talk him into" this show. Here are Ted's own words:

                      "I’m so excited to be working with Food Network on this new series,” Ted said. “It’s a fantastic opportunity for me to head up my own show, and I know that viewers are going to be totally engaged with the information we are discovering on ‘Food Detectives." (taken from http://www.tedallen.net/News_%26_even...).

                      Ted is big boy. Nobody clubbed him over the head and dragged him into the studio to make this show. CHers just have to mold the facts to fit their prejudices. Ted Allen - good, FN - bad, therefore this must be all FN's fault. Poor, poor Ted.

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                        Phaedrus Aug 2, 2008 01:01 PM

                        If not clubbed over the head then perhaps given lots of bucks to keep his mouth shut. I know I know, he is crying all the way to the bank. Nice gig if you can get it.

                        I just have a bad feeling about this, kind of like when Rocco announced that he was starring in a unique and glamourous new reality show called "The Restaurant."

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                          alkapal Aug 3, 2008 04:33 AM

                          you can make a contract as a big boy, but make some unwise concessions about control over the final product. if ted allen could control the show, do you think THIS would be it? i seriously doubt it.

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                            LindaWhit Aug 3, 2008 05:57 AM

                            Here are Ted's own words:
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                            And that is probably the PR machine talking as well. I agree with alkapal, I doubt that this is the show that Ted Allen would really want. He's usually so relaxed and comfortable in front of the camera; if it's this awkward on the show, perhaps what he thought he was getting into is not what it ended up being - hence his awkward delivery.

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                              alkapal Aug 3, 2008 05:37 PM

                              definitely sounds like pr pap. "know that viewers are going to be totally engaged." ha!

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                              chicgail Aug 3, 2008 05:28 PM

                              Unless you actually heard ole Ted say that, it was probably not his quote.

                              Speaking from the wonderful world of public relations, I would assert that those words never escaped Ted Allen's mouth. The :"quote" is pretty standard fare for what goes into the typical press release. I've written and edited similar quotes dozens of times. (Yes, I know, it doesn't speak that well of me, but after all there are bills to be paid...)

                              He probably read and approved it. And why wouldn't he? It's basic pap and says just about nothing offensive or otherwise..

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                                kmcarr Aug 3, 2008 08:58 PM

                                Unless you actually heard Ted say otherwise I'll believe what he himself posts on his own website.

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                                  chicgail Aug 11, 2008 04:51 PM

                                  That's fine with me.

                                  I guess that's why we PR-types get paid the big bucks.

                          2. Caroline1 Aug 3, 2008 04:27 PM

                            I enjoy Ted Allen when he's a judge on ICA. I enjoyed him on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy (or whatever it was called). His new show? Eh!

                            1. Davwud Aug 11, 2008 07:04 AM

                              I've read eveyones opinions here and all I can say is. I watched last week and rather liked it. Mythbusters about food. I was fine with it.

                              DT

                              1. dave_c Aug 11, 2008 10:08 AM

                                I caught a bits and pieces of a show.

                                Reminds me of Mythbusters, but at least Mythbusters tries to be a little more scientific and tries to keep each run consistent. Ted Allen's methods are a little loose.

                                Also, it seems like Ted Allen is shouting at the camera.

                                The show is mildly interesting, but I prefer Mythbusters.

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                                  HarryK Aug 13, 2008 09:45 AM

                                  I may have missed this, but did anyone else say or notice that it seems Ted Allen is yelling at the camera? I watched episode three last night (ug) and it seemed he wasn't so much talking as trying to holler his info across the camera to you.

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                                    Phaedrus Aug 13, 2008 10:08 AM

                                    This is the Gordon Elliott effect. If you raise youer voice, people will think its important. Next up is English accent.

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                                      LindaWhit Aug 13, 2008 10:59 AM

                                      And before Gordon Elliott, it was Robin Leach...."WELCOME to the LIFESTYLES of the RICH and FAMOUS!!"

                                      Ahhhh...champagne wishes and caviar dreams.....

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                                        Phaedrus Aug 13, 2008 12:03 PM

                                        OK, I really didn't need that reminder.

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                                          LindaWhit Aug 14, 2008 06:37 AM

                                          Gonna be stuck in your mind now, isn't it? ;-) ::::passing along the brain scrub brush to Phaedrus::::::

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                                    macadamianut Aug 14, 2008 07:14 AM

                                    I watched it for the first time this week. It was so truly awful that just listening to him made you cringe. While I enjoyed his sense of style and good taste on Queer Eye I felt that this concept did not work well for him. His voice while he is talking is enough to drive you crazy. Alton Brown is very smart and entertaining and his science of food and cooking is engaging and interesting. This is not the case for Ted Allen. They should get rid of this show fast and let him do a show that is more true to his talent and personality.

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