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Good-enough fish tacos SD?

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pickypicky Jul 18, 2008 07:12 AM

I don't want a debate about how SD does/does not have worthy fish tacos. (I mean, Calvin Trillin, one of the greatest food writers of the last 200 years wrote a whole essay on his search for one here.) What I want is your recommendation for a good enough fish taco in San Diego. My criteria: fresh fried fish, good cream sauce, cabbage, fresh pico or salsa. Handmade tortilla a plus. I read about the one at the taco truck in CV in a recent thread, and wondered if there isn't anything half as good closer to home. (if not, so be it. I'll trek there.) Yesterday we went to that (gringo) bar next to OB pier where my man heard their ft's were great. They weren't. So I'm asking you. If I've missed a recent thread on this, please steer me there. Thanks.

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    wanker Jul 18, 2008 07:59 AM

    Do a forum search. I'm afraid this subject has been beaten to death.

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      pickypicky Jul 18, 2008 08:51 AM

      I did search and found no thread on it specifically more recent than 2003. I found plenty of debate, but just want recommendations. If anyone has a direct link to that I'd appreciate it.

    2. DiningDiva Jul 18, 2008 08:39 AM

      The fish tacos at The Brig (Brigantine) get lots of love here. El Zarape at the end of Park Blvd. used to be known for their $ .99 fish tacos. I haven't been El Zarape for at least 2 years but the last time I was there and had a fish taco, they were good.

      I had a straight fish taco at Mariscos German at 28th and Ocean View and thought it was the least successful of the tacos I had. It was good, the others were better.

      You could also try the fish tacos at El Comal. Several people I know really like the fish tacos at Mama Testas, which is centrally located so you don't have to go to south county. Personally, I think MT does other tacos better than fish tacos, but the fish taco is okay.

      P.S. Calvin Trillin also did a piece for Gourmet mag. where he came to SD to find a good fish taco. His bottom line was that he had to go to Ensenada to find it.

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        pickypicky Jul 18, 2008 08:56 AM

        We'll try El Comal. Haven't been there in a while. The ones at La Fachada taco truck were ok, too. Thanks for the link to your blog. I had looked for it and couldn't find it.

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          kare_raisu Jul 18, 2008 10:51 AM

          La Fachada is probably one of the top 5 taquerias in town - though their specialty is not fish tacos. Is this all you ordered? No gorditas?

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            pickypicky Jul 19, 2008 07:49 AM

            DIGRESSION: K_R, we love La Fachada and have just ordered willynilly like drunk sailors. What's your favorite? I very much respect your opinion. We're going tonight when my son flies in from nyc at midnight. . .

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          kare_raisu Jul 18, 2008 10:53 AM

          Sorry - I forgot to mention the Brig - where I did have an exquisite fish taco about a year ago overlooking the del mar track.

          Though i am still trying to forgive them for the yellow cheese and flour tortilla.

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            cgfan Jul 20, 2008 06:12 PM

            DD: I remember that essay...

            Also I believe in one of Jeffrey Steingarten's essays, (oh oh, or was this also in the Calvin Trillin essay?), and you kind of have to read between the lines on this one, one of his stops in his search for a fish taco in S.D. (brought there by Tom Chino as a favorite of his) was a place that I concluded must be the Brig. No doubt it's an interesting take on a fish taco, temporarily throwing any "authenticity issues" aside... http://www.flickr.com/photos/akatayama/156994874/

            My personal vote goes for Mariscos German's Marlin Taco. (But be prepared for a meal! It's downright huge when compared to their other more traditionally-sized tacos.) http://www.flickr.com/photos/akatayama/2529948181/

            ...and here's their "regular" fish taco: http://www.flickr.com/photos/akatayam...

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              oerdin Aug 15, 2008 04:52 PM

              I read Calvin Trillin similar article about fish tacos which he wrote for the Chicago Tribune and frankly I found it to be boring and pedantic. He was completely obsessed with finding fish tacos "just like in Ensenada" and he rejected anything else out of hand without even stopping to ask himself if the food tasted good. For me I care if the food tastes good and experimenting & changing things is part of the process for coming up with great new recipes. It's how foreign foods become localized and how new culinary traditions are formed. However Trillin acted like the recipe had to be frozen as it was in 1975 in Ensenada and any change no matter how minor, or even if it made things taste better, was wrong by definition because it wasn't "just like in Ensenada".

              It's a free country and Trillin can feel however he wants just like I'm free to think the man has missed the boat when it comes to fish tacos.

            2. Alice Q Jul 18, 2008 09:10 AM

              Here you go - http://www.chowhound.com/topics/495830

              not sure why, but it didn't come up the first time I searched either - I had to add specific restaurant names. I agree with you that it's not terribly helpful though - a lot of feedback, but not a lot of recommendations! :-)

              I stand by my recommendation of Don Chuy in Solana Beach - a lot of people like South Beach but they put too much sauce on the tacos - might want to ask for it on the side. The most important thing with a fish taco though is how fresh it is - you really can't let them sit more than a couple of minutes.

              1. kare_raisu Jul 18, 2008 10:49 AM

                Fish Tacos.

                Your Options.

                Senor Baja in Temecula
                Pedro's Tacos in Fallbrook or San Clemente
                Truck in CV Parking lot

                Ensenada as Alice has Mentioned
                or a Place in Tijuas that you'll have to let me know if you willing to trek there

                I have never found a handmade tortilla with a fish taco thus far.

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                  pickypicky Jul 19, 2008 07:37 AM

                  I think the tortillas of my fish taco at La Fachada Taco Truck were handmade on one visit. And that one was pretty good. Fish was probably frozen but very tasty. but I def. want to try the Toys-R-Us truck you wrote about. And thanks Alice Q for the thread. And thanks yall, these are all great recos and just what I wanted!

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                  STevenGarsson Jul 18, 2008 05:19 PM

                  South Beach Bar & Grill
                  5059 Newport Ave.
                  Ocean Beach, CA
                  (619) 226-4577

                  I had the marinated mahi mahi, but the whole taco was KILLER!!

                  Best Regards,

                  STeven Garsson

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                    Josh Jul 20, 2008 12:13 PM

                    Caveat: South Beach Bar and Grill uses commodity flour tortillas, yellow cheese, and ranch dressing.

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                      pickypicky Jul 20, 2008 02:14 PM

                      thanks! yellow cheese, flour tortilla, and ranch dressing are not on my fish taco list.

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                        Josh Jul 20, 2008 08:07 PM

                        Kinda figured, hence my comment. ;-)

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                        DiningDiva Jul 21, 2008 08:35 AM

                        Awww, come on. Add some Pio Pico hot sauce to some Ranch Dressing and you've got a damn fine fish taco sauce. And, unfortunately, I'm not kidding. These two ingredients are a match made in heaven and the stuff goes well on just about anything <sigh>. Is it authentic? Authentically gringo. Is it good? Yes, even if you don't like Ranch dressing.

                        Sometimes we need to get over ourselves and just eat what's good, or in this case just "good enough", and for a "good enough" fish taco Ranch dressing is just fine. Ranch dressing with Pio Pico sauce is more than just good enough ;-)

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                          Josh Jul 21, 2008 09:11 AM

                          I really dislike commodity ranch dressing. I've had some varieties that are made from scratch that are OK, but the commodity product grosses me out, as do all commodity creamy salad dressings.

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                            DiningDiva Jul 21, 2008 10:53 AM

                            Hey Josh, Ranch dressing isn't one of my favorites either but I've had to work with it for years I guess I've just developed a tolerance for it. I'm not wild about it on salads, but as a sauce for chicken it's not bad (add a little wasabi and some cucumber and it's really good). Ranch Dressing = California Catsup

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                              menuinprogress Jul 21, 2008 11:12 AM

                              I agree, Josh. Personally, I require that all of my Ranch dressing actually be produced on an operating ranch. Preferably by 3rd-generation cowboys (although 2nd-generation will do in a pinch).

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                                Josh Jul 21, 2008 11:24 AM

                                I've often wondered what the genesis of this stuff is, actually. (Thank you wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranch_dr...)

                                Pretty awesome it's now made by Clorox.

                                I generally prefer light dressings, like olive oil, lemon juice, salt and pepper. Does anyone actually eat thousand island on salad?

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                                STevenGarsson Jul 22, 2008 10:35 AM

                                As a response, Josh, it sure seemed like more of a garlic mayo/buttermilk housemade dressing than out of a jar for the "commodity ranch dressing" to me, but you might know something/someone that I do not.

                                The cheese they use tastes like cheese, and cheddar at that, for $3.00+/- for a fish taco, I am not expecting Beecher's Flagship....

                                Corn tortillas are available upon request.

                                My advice to DiningDiva was/is....try South Beach.

                                If you are down on Newport for some reason, and hungry, you might like it.

                                Best Regards,

                                STeven Garsson

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                                  Josh Jul 22, 2008 10:44 AM

                                  I wasn't trying to offend you, Steven. The OP had some pretty specific requests, and South Beach doesn't meet them. No need to take it personally.

                                  I've eaten at South Beach more times than I can count. I lived in OB for many years, and went there for fish tacos quite frequently. If you watch what goes on in the kitchen, you'll see the ranch dressing comes out of a big plastic jar, just like their refried beans come out of a can.

                                  They get pretty good fish, which is why I always got my tacos there without the white sauce, and salsa on the side, because they tend to put way too much condiment on the taco, rendering the fish nearly impossible to taste.

                                  I don't dislike South Beach, but you have to admit that their fish tacos, while good for what they are, are a far cry from authentic Baja ones.

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                                    STevenGarsson Jul 22, 2008 01:05 PM

                                    Josh,

                                    You didn't offend me......I just wasn't sure from DiningDiva's post if she was referencing SouthBeach or not, and wanted to make sure she knew about it. I had the marinated mahi-mahi(like I said)....which was pretty danged good on corn tortillas, and you obviously didn't hate it, otherwise you wouldn't have gone back.

                                    It's all good.....and thanks for your thoughtful response

                                    Best Regards,

                                    STeven Garsson

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                                      DiningDiva Jul 22, 2008 01:21 PM

                                      Steve, I am well aware of South Beach and have recommended it many times. I was just teasing Josh about his dislike of Ranch Dressing. (Although Ranch and Pio Pico sauce really *is* pretty good)

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                                        Josh Jul 22, 2008 01:49 PM

                                        It's all about the fried oyster taco.

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                                          pickypicky Jul 22, 2008 03:37 PM

                                          What's funny to me, is that my OP WAS South Beach. I just didn't know the name of the place. What I was served there was great bar food-- a tortilla with fried fish, non descript white sauce, packaged salsa, RED cabbage (visually unappealing but the bar was dark) and grated yellow cheese! Wash that sucker down with a really good beer and I'm as happy as the next non-picky eater. However, we didn't want bar food. We wanted a bonafide good-enough fried fish taco, hence the OP. I've loved the dialogue here, and am further convinced that my new attitude of good-enough will make me much happier in SD. signed Good-Enough, aka PickyPicky

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                                oerdin Aug 15, 2008 05:19 PM

                                I swear to god they used to offer your choice of corn or flour tortillas. Also I wouldn't call their sauce ranch much less "commodity ranch" but maybe they've made recent changes to cut costs and have gone down hill.

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                              Wino Jul 20, 2008 11:30 PM

                              Blue Water on India Street has awesome tacos. They lack a bit on the salsa front, they just use bottled stuff that is OK. Their tacos rock though. They are a fresh fish market and you can check out the fish before you order. I just order what looks good that day. I almost always come away thinking that they have pulled me out of the crowd and gave me the best meal of the day. They put a ton of fish on the tacos, it's almost obscene.

                              Halibut and rare sushi grade ahi, along with eastern scallops have been my three favorites.

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                                oerdin Jul 21, 2008 03:25 AM

                                Mariscos German is not just good enough. Mariscos German is down right fan-f'ing-tastic. Sure, it is a taco truck but the fish tacos kick butt like no other. If someone is stuck up about that then it is their issue and it has nothing to do with the quality of the food.

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                                  pickypicky Jul 21, 2008 06:13 AM

                                  Does MG do the standard fried fish taco? and where is it, please? I've heard yall mention it for a year, but don't know where it is.

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                                    DiningDiva Jul 21, 2008 08:29 AM

                                    Yes, MG does a standard fish taco, I've attached a photo of it. Frankly, I don't think their basic fish taco is the best taco they do. The taco de marlyn (smoked marlin) is outstanding, as are their various shrimp concoctions, the taco de callo (scallops) was quite tasty. (I've thrown in a photo of their shrimp quesadilla, which is pretty darn good too)

                                    They have several taco trucks but the one most CHers seem to gravitate to is on University around 35th, in the parking lot of a small indy grocery store. They also have a very casual sit-down restaurant at 28th and Ocean View. Definitely worth seeking out.

                                     
                                     
                                     
                                     
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                                      Josh Jul 21, 2008 09:13 AM

                                      I haven't had the fried fish taco there, but the others I've had have been great. The almeja (clam) is very good, and the grilled shrimp is also good. The marlin can be amazing, though a couple of times I've had it the fish didn't seem very fresh. Octopus is also good. I prefer going to the 28th and Ocean View location to the truck. I prefer to sit indoors than on a dirt lot. YMMV.

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                                        pickypicky Jul 21, 2008 03:23 PM

                                        Yum photos and clear directive (as Wall-E would say). Next stop for us: Ocean View and 28th. (And if what they're using is Ranch Dressing, please no one tell me and I won't know the diff.)

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                                          DiningDiva Jul 21, 2008 04:26 PM

                                          Don't worry, nary a Ranch dressing jar or packet in sight ;-). I like 28th and Ocean View better too.

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                                    palmtree38 Dec 26, 2008 06:38 PM

                                    Does the south beach bar and grill not allow children in their restaurant at anytime of the day now?? I will be staying a few nights in the liberty station area and a few in la jolla. We are a family with younger children but like good food. I would .like to try these fish tacos that I keep reading about and saw many recomendations of the south beach. I went on their website and it says it is now age 21 and older. I have never seen a restaurant that had a age restriction only bars in the evenings.
                                    If this is 21 and older could you recommend a place in either liberty station area or la jolla for us to try these?
                                    Would alfonsos be good for mexican in la jolla? and miguesls cocina in point loma area?

                                    thanks

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                                      Alice Q Dec 26, 2008 10:22 PM

                                      I would guess no kids at any time at S. Beach, based on the fact that we were carded at 11 AM on a Saturday. I wouldn't go out of your way for these tacos. Alfonsos and Miguels are ok, but very standard and a little touristy. You might try El Zarape on Park Boulevard or the Brigantine for fish tacos. El Zarape is just down the street from the zoo, near the intersection of Park and Adams. There is a Brigantine on Shelter Island in Point Loma - make a left off Rosecrans onto Shelter Island drive. Blue Water Grill on India is also good for fish tacos and seafood, and is very close to Liberty Station - just across PCH between Sasafrass and Washington.

                                      In OB, Hodad's is good and fun for kids - funky beachy burger joint with lots of kitschy surfer decor. Con Pane Bakery in Point Loma is also good for sandwiches and breads.

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                                        palmtree38 Dec 27, 2008 05:00 AM

                                        Thanks for clarfifying the OB restaurant,.. Weird you think it was a strip joint for all day 21 and older LMAO.
                                        Would the point loma seafood for lunch be better then this Blue water grill if we are staying in liberty station?

                                        Isnt miguels cocina the Brigantine restaurant???
                                        We are not going to the zoo on this trip as we will be going up to Anaheim for 3 nights to do Disney and when we go back to liberty station area we are going to go to Seaworld. If there is a place near seaworld for lunch thats a must see rather then doing the park food inside we could go out and get a stamp to dine at a restaurant.

                                        We have VERY few mexican restaurants where we live near Toronto. WE have one chain which is not even as good as the old Chi Chi's chain. So when I heard there was many mexican/california tex mex we were excited to try some.

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                                          Cathy Dec 27, 2008 06:54 AM

                                          Brig is on the South side of Rosecrans, Miguels is on the North side.

                                          PLSF is closer for you if you are at Liberty. PLSF basically has all fried fish, except the smoked and tuna sandwiches. BWG has grilled fish also.

                                          The bars in PB and OB serve beer all day. They open to have college and/or pro sports on the televisions (games start at noon East coast time, therefore 9 am our time) and so adhere to the laws about minors and alcohol in that setting.

                                          Not much to eat right near Seaworld. Lots on Point Loma (on your way there) and some on the other side of I-5 paralleling the freeway.

                                          Taco shops abound and are pretty distinctive by being painted yellow with red stripes. Most do not have an eat in area.

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                                            Josh Dec 30, 2008 03:09 PM

                                            Point Loma is closer, but Blue Water is much, much better IMO.

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                                          cstr Dec 27, 2008 04:55 AM

                                          SBB&G is really geared for adults, I wouldn't bring kids there. The tacos are good, they use fresh mahi for their signature fish taco, grilled or fried. El Pescador in LJ is also good and comfortable for children, very casual. Alfonso's is also good for kids, food is OK.

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                                            palmtree38 Dec 27, 2008 09:21 AM

                                            Darn I had read a fair amount on Trip advisor about Alfonsos being good but I guess it depends on who is advising you. I read Casa Guadalajara in old town is good for dinner/lunch who anyone agree with this?

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                                              Alice Q Dec 30, 2008 02:04 PM

                                              You'll get a million different opinions on here from locals about Mexican - it's a hot topic. If you're looking for traditional Mexican American stuff - tacos, burritos, cheese, refried beans & guacamole, you will probably be happy with Casa Guadalajara, Alfonsos of Miguels. I'd probably put them in that order.

                                              Point Loma Seafoods is a good spot for an outdoor lunch by the water. It's mostly fried food and I don't know if they do fish tacos - but Blue Water does. Blue Water is also open in the evenings - I believe PLS closes at 7.

                                              Brigantine and Miguels serve different food - the Brig serves the fish tacos on the bar side.

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                                                palmtree38 Dec 30, 2008 04:44 PM

                                                You would put Alfonsos's before miguels?
                                                WE are going to try out the fish tacos at Truck #3.
                                                dont really need to eat mexican all week lol.. Crab catcher for our first night arrival for happy hour and georges . When down at liberty station are we will pick up fish tacos from the truck and looking for somewhere our last night. Might look at the San diego Restaurant week for a pic.

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                                                  palmtree38 Dec 30, 2008 05:17 PM

                                                  I was just reading old posts on best food items in san diego and the Marisoc German's for TAcos came up.. They said that 4 tacos for $4 is this how inexpensive they are ??? Looking at some photos they looked pretty big for a $1 each. lol.

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                                                    Masa Assassin Dec 30, 2008 05:53 PM

                                                    Only the fish tacos are 99 cents (on special now at truck 3) the rest range from $2.25-3.75

                                                    Menu I scanned here...
                                                    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63...

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                                                      palmtree38 Dec 31, 2008 10:24 AM

                                                      Thankyou for the menu.. maybe i better learn espanol lol.. No cerveza's for sale ?? would they have natchos or cheese type quasadias for kids? otherwise I can just pick up bagels and cheese etc for them.

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                                                        Uncle Lefty Dec 31, 2008 10:47 AM

                                                        Some of the fish tacos are pretty big. The truck sits in the parking lot of a liquor store, and I've seen the discreet beer on the chair between the legs scenario unfold. Man, they are good.

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                                                          Masa Assassin Dec 31, 2008 12:35 PM

                                                          On the menu Quesadillas Sencillas = plain quesadilla, just to be sure to ask for chesse only they all speak english. You should let the kids try octopus :P

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                                                            palmtree38 Dec 31, 2008 12:39 PM

                                                            What are your liqour laws there for walking in public with drinks? We cant even drink at football parking lots where i know the USA can., So not sure if it applies to drinking in public results in fines.

                                                            Kids will eat quasadias thanks will write that down so I know what Im looking for on the menu.

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                                                              Uncle Lefty Dec 31, 2008 02:56 PM

                                                              No can do. I think even in Tijuana you'd get in trouble. Even the beach here is off limits for drinking. Progress! Bah, Humbug.

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                                                              DiningDiva Dec 31, 2008 03:17 PM

                                                              The shrimp (camarones) quesadilla is also suitable for kids. It's very large and easily shared if the kids are young and like shrimp. It's fairly mild but that's easily fixed with a dash of any of the available salsas.

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                                              palmtree38 Dec 31, 2008 12:40 PM

                                              does chowhound have a link to wine/spirit tasting in San diego? ie vineyards and wine stores to shop at and must trys???

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                                                oerdin Dec 31, 2008 03:14 PM

                                                I think they've had this feature for a short time but very few people have taken the time to write reviews and/or suggestions so (for the present at least) it isn't very useful.

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                                                  DougOLis Jan 1, 2009 01:52 PM

                                                  Are you a beer drinker at all? Temecula is getting better with wines, but San Diego mainly reigns tall as a beer destination. If so, I'll provide a list of brewery/bar/store suggestions.

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                                                    palmtree38 Jan 1, 2009 02:17 PM

                                                    WE both drink beer when going out or wine. Stella and fosters are beers of choice here. Stopping for natchos guac and a cold beer or hubby a steak and beer would be grand!

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                                                      DougOLis Jan 2, 2009 02:55 AM

                                                      The beer culture here goes far beyond Stella and Fosters and largely centers around the following styles: IIPA (big, hoppy beers that largely started here), Belgian style ales, Russian Imperial Stouts, and Barleywine. Not sure if you like those styles or are willing to try, but we do them all very well.

                                                      Breweries: Lost Abbey/Port, Stone, Alesmith, Green Flash, Alpine, Ballast Point, Lightning

                                                      Beer Bars: Hamilton's, O'Briens, Toronado, Pizza Port

                                                      Liquor Stores: South Bay Drugs & Liquor, Holiday Wine Cellar, Beverage & More (La Mesa and Solana Beach are the best), Beverages 4 Less, Pizza Port (Carlsbad)

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                                                        palmtree38 Jan 2, 2009 04:17 AM

                                                        WE would definatly be interested in trying some new beers on recommendations. WE are going to try the Red Trolley up in anaheim that some travellers suggested. Do you have cherry beer? or Cidars such as Stronbow (that is my fav)
                                                        We would probably be picking up the beer at a store to bring back to our hotel as we are travelling with kids and some of the bars may not allow kids to stop and have one. I can write some of the recomendations down and see when at some of our dining places if they are serving these on tap.

                                                        Are any of these liqour stores close to La Jolla or Liberty station by walking or short drive?

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                                                          Cathy Jan 2, 2009 08:07 AM

                                                          There is a Trader Joe's at Liberty Station whihc has a great variety of interesting beers. The Vons grocery next to the TJs is unusual in that it is far more upscale than the other Vons I have seen around here; it is newer and seems to have a very different demographic with its food, wine and beer selection, perhaps to compete with the Trader Joe's.

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                                                            DougOLis Jan 2, 2009 09:41 AM

                                                            While up near Disneyland you might want to check out The Bruery because they put out some fantastic beers.

                                                            I don't really know of anyone around here that makes ciders but I'm sure you could find something in bottle. If you can find a lambic/sour ale/Flanders red ale from The Lost Abbey, Russian River, or Alpine that might meet your cherry needs. The Lost Abbey and Russian River (from the Bay Area) make some fantastic sour beers but they can be difficult to find and occasionally expensive. Alpine put out a couple of lambics awhile ago (Briscoe and Chez Monieux) that were well received and you can still find a few floating around. Maybe try Red Barn from The Lost Abbey which doesn't have cherries but is very tasty, I think you might like it, and can be found pretty easily; Cable Car, Yellow Bus, Isabelle Proximus, Cuvee de Tomme, and Red Poppy are all awesome with sour cherries from Lost Abbey but I doubt you'll see them around.

                                                            The stores I mentioned aren't really near Point Loma or La Jolla but there is a Beverages & More (BevMo) in La Jolla. Another good option might be for you to stop by the Pizza Port in Carlsbad on your way down from Disneyland because they have a solid bottle room you could buy from.

                                                            http://www.bevmo.com//Misc/StoreLocat...

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                                                              Josh Jan 3, 2009 01:22 AM

                                                              If that's Karl Strauss' Red Trolley, then that's not really one of the best representative beers of this region. It's a pedestrian red ale with loads of buttery diacetyl. Really nothing worth going out of your way for.

                                                              If you're after fruity beers, then you may find San Diego's brews too aggressive for your palate. The beers here generally tend towards the big, hoppy extremes. You might like Ballast Point's Wahoo Wheat - it's a Belgian witbier, and has some citrusy character to it.

                                                              Trader Joe's typically doesn't have much in the way of local beer. They do frequently have Lindeman's lambics, however, and these are quite sweet and fruity. If you're looking for cherry beer, this might be more your speed than any of our local stuff.

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                                                                palmtree38 Jan 3, 2009 12:59 PM

                                                                my husband said he likes pale beers. He had sierra nevada from chico california and was not a real fan.. So are you beers more like a thick guiness type?

                                                                I like coors light you probably know that beer lol.. rolling rock beer. and strongbow cidar from the uk plus white/red wines..

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                                                                  DougOLis Jan 3, 2009 09:40 PM

                                                                  If you don't like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale then you're probably not going to like a lot of the beers here which are big hoppy double IPAs (think SNPA but bigger and more bitter). As I stated before, you might have some luck with The Lost Abbey's Belgian style beers.

                                                                  Why type of beer is Alexander Keith's? From what I'm getting, you're more into lager style beers which aren't real common in California but maybe try Trumer Pils if you get a chance.

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                                                                    palmtree38 Jan 4, 2009 05:57 AM

                                                                    hi doug
                                                                    Alexander Keiths is a India Pale Ale
                                                                    Coors light a lager.
                                                                    So lagers and pale ale's must be a lighter tasting beer with out the hops taste.
                                                                    not sure what sol and corona is but we like those too. Im sure when in doubt we can get those at target etc.

                                                                    you cant message people directly on this chowhoud can you? like you can on trip advisor?

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                                                                        Ed Dibble Jan 6, 2009 08:15 AM

                                                                        One place you can try that has some brewpub beers that aren't overloaded with hops and alcohol is the Pacific Beach Ale House. They have a lager and a wheat beer that are both balanced and tasty.

                                                                        I would suggest going between 3 and 6 (I think) when you can get a glass for only $3 (usually more pricey at 5 bucks a glass). They have a rooftop also from which one can see the beach.

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                                                                    DougOLis Jan 3, 2009 09:35 PM

                                                                    Alpine's McIlhenney 's Irish Red is better than Red Trolley

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                                                                  notjustastomach Jan 2, 2009 06:20 AM

                                                                  You left "Neighborhood" off your list of beer bars. Okay, so Neighborhood is not quite a beer bar. But last night it had *both* Dogfish Head's 90 minute IPA *and* Pliny the Elder on tap. (Unfortunately, neither is a native San Diego brew.) It just does not get any better than that.

                                                                  BTW Neighborhood does not have fish tacos. Good, bad, or just good enough.

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                                                                  Neighborhood
                                                                  777 G St, San Diego, CA 92101

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                                                                    palmtree38 Jan 3, 2009 05:16 PM

                                                                    geeze Im not going to remember half these beer names.. Do certain bars only bring beers on at certain times?? as some of the posts say this was avail last night but not tonight or at this bar but not this one..
                                                                    WE have alexander Keiths a true canadian east coast beer .. you get it a at a bar or beer store always avail.. Imports from around the world you have to go to our liqour store to pick these up . sold singually or in 6 packs (some of them)

                                                                    that was the red troley by karl strauss that i was told to buy.. hmmm hahha

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