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HarryK Jul 17, 2008 04:04 PM

Can't believe Emeril Green's been on four days now and no thread here at CH. Tsk, tsk.

If you're missing it, it's a winner. And a foodies dream come true: What if your pantry were an actual supermaket?! I love that idea!

First day showed six shows, each regular day is two back to back episodes. So I've seen 10 or 12 so far. It's on Planet Green -- the only reason in fact, IMHO, to watch that channel -- 8pm Eastern. Tons of repeats at other times too.

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  1. alkapal RE: HarryK Jul 17, 2008 04:07 PM

    eh, sorry, gotta watch the "burn notice" marathon....

    1. Midlife RE: HarryK Jul 17, 2008 04:31 PM

      I guess I'm missing what the attraction might be. The few episodes I ran into the other day were very simplistic and just ordinary Emeril cooking segments, and a large product placement ad for Whole Foods. I guess, though, it's the best food-related show they have, but isn't it the only cooking show there?, unless you count the chef on Supper Club with Tom Bergeron.

      I do not like the idea of losing all the good cooking shows that were on that channel, but I AM finding some of the new content interesting..... like Living With Ed and the guy who used to be on This Old House. The star-studded Alter Eco is a bit much but has been interesting enough. I guess I've always been interested in construction/landscape/home fix-up/eco-friendly subject matter.

      And it was mentioned in this topic: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/525931

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        HarryK RE: HarryK Jul 20, 2008 12:27 AM

        Did I miss something? Is Emeril that disdained on this forum that no one seems to care about the new show???

        Really, I just don't get the total lack of interest. Is he "played out" among foodies now? What is it?

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          dolores RE: HarryK Jul 20, 2008 03:31 AM

          >>Is he "played out" among foodies now?

          Absolutely. The ubiquitous Diner Guy is the flavor of the minute.

          Has Emeril gone 'green', thinking he'll recapture the world's heart? How sad.

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            NE_Elaine RE: HarryK Jul 20, 2008 05:05 AM

            Since I have just basic analog cable service, I don't get that channel. I would still watch Emeril if I got that station, at least to see what the show is about.

            Plus, I just don't watch a lot of TV in the summer.

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              dave_c RE: HarryK Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM

              Thanks for the heads-up.

              I'll check to see if I get that channel... I'm having a sneaking suspicion that Planet Green is part of the more expensive cable package.

              It's a terrible way of starting a new show by limiting the viewership right off the bat.

            2. Mild Bill RE: HarryK Jul 20, 2008 08:46 AM

              I would rather hose my Fruit of the Looms with pepper spray than watch 2 minutes more of Emeril...
              I had all I could take years ago...
              I'm a pretty decent cook and I'm funnier than him--- so what's in it for me?

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                HarryK RE: Mild Bill Jul 20, 2008 04:57 PM

                LMAO! Thanks for the visual Mild Bill. I think. hehe

                Ok, I get the idea now. :)

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                  MplsM ary RE: Mild Bill Aug 2, 2008 05:48 AM

                  Ya know, I thought the exact same thing and then I came across "Emeril Green." He is just as cool and foody and very much the chef instructor his fellow chefs have almost always touted him to be. Heck, even Tony Bourdain stopped mocking him after meeting the "real" Emeril.

                  To me, this show truly reveals his mastery of teaching and cooking and I can sort of understand why so many people were initially drawn to Emeril.

                  No mania + teaching cooking technique = good food TV for me.

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                  chefbren RE: HarryK Jul 29, 2008 08:59 PM

                  aww it's too bad the commentators have this reaction. TV is tricky, let me tell you. After working with Emeril and seeing my episode on the premier night, I can tell you I wouldn't change much. He's a great and honest person. He really does know his stuff and his demeanor off camera is very different from what we see on the tube. Though I'm a personal chef/caterer, his mission for the show was accomplished genuinely in my epi. I learned how to work with pork... A lot of off camera chit chat addressed my dilemma. I'm sure this is true for other guests. I hope you your readers will tune back in. I love the show. But then again, I've always been a fan of his.

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                    DiveFan RE: chefbren Jul 30, 2008 03:43 PM

                    I'm sorry, but this show has little to do with 'green' as in being environmentally sensitive.
                    - Cooking with organic ingredients is commendable, but this is only incidental to the main thrust of the episodes aired so far. The common hook seems to be to help time management or culinarily challenged people cook better. The show could have been named 'Quick Fix Meals', '30 Minute Meals', 'Rescue Chef' but those TMs are already taken :-).
                    - As previously mentioned, this show is a Big Green Cha-Ching for WF.

                    I really do like the casual tone of the filming, although I would have preferred new episodes of 'Essence of Emeril' made in the same place. Oops, another TM already in use.

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                      Val RE: DiveFan Aug 2, 2008 07:23 PM

                      big sigh.....I LOVED Essence of Emeril...that was one of FN's best, back in the good old days. Haven't watched Emeril Green, will look for it, though I don't watch much tv.

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                        goodhealthgourmet RE: DiveFan Aug 4, 2008 12:11 PM

                        re: divefan's comments about the validity of the *green* angle of emeril's show, there was an interesting article in today's NY Times about that very issue...

                        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/04/art...

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                          HarryK RE: goodhealthgourmet Aug 4, 2008 12:44 PM

                          Planet Green, well, it's a dumb idea. Let me put it another way, it's a great idea in a zen-like "this is what we oughta do" good-hearted way.

                          As a 24-hour network, trying to fill that much Green-only content, plus pay the bills with Green-only advertisers ... well, it apparently looked good to someone on paper (dunno why) but reality takes over and it's impossible to fund with only Green commercials and fill only Green content. It won't happen ever. Ergo, inconsistency and hypocracy and looking stupid.

                          But, aside from the morons at Discovery, who didn't see that coming the moment the idea hit the corporate board table? Yet some goof said yeah, great idea, let's do it. Oh and we'll kill the Home channel at the same time just to make it twice as dumb.

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                            goodhealthgourmet RE: HarryK Aug 4, 2008 01:20 PM

                            c'mon harry, it sounds like you're holding back. tell us how you really feel ;)

                            i've only seen part of one episode of emeril green, but that's because i finally figured out last week that we do, in fact, get the channel. oops.

                            i'm going to refrain from offering my opinion of the show until i see more episodes, but the NYT article hit one of my concerns on the head...i know that *healthy* food & green living don't automatically go hand-in-hand, but we're not gonna be able to save the planet if we're not here to live on it. i like emeril, i think he's a talented chef & a genuinely good guy, but if everyone eats the way he typically cooks on his shows - pork fat & mayonnaise for everyone! - we're all gonna be dead anyway.

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                              HarryK RE: goodhealthgourmet Aug 4, 2008 10:47 PM

                              hehe GHG, let me put it this way. If anyone is watching Mr. Gumbo to learn how to have an organic, heart-healthy diet, they're in trouble. If they're going to watch Emeril to be Emeril and completely disassociate what network he happens to be on, they'll enjoy it. And then when he makes his occasional "green, organic" thing happen now and then, be shocked he could actually tilt that far. LOL

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                            Phaedrus RE: goodhealthgourmet Aug 4, 2008 05:13 PM

                            I loved these two sentences:
                            "Healthy, it seems, doesn’t have to be heart-healthy or even low in fat as long as it includes fresh greens. But on a channel that measures good citizenship by the carbon footprint, Mr. Lagasse leaves a huge caloric wake."

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                              HarryK RE: Phaedrus Aug 4, 2008 10:48 PM

                              Yep, Phaedus, that's some nice piece of writing there.

                      2. puppymomma RE: HarryK Jul 31, 2008 05:27 AM

                        Oh, I've been watching! In fact, I did a blog post on the show when I tried out one of his recipes. BTW, the recipe was absolutely fantastic.

                        It's a good show. He helps people and caters the recipes he does to their dietary / culinary needs. I forgot that Emeril was good in the beginning before the Food Network made him so unlikeable.

                        If you think you don't have the channel, check and see if you have one called Discovery Home Network. That was changed over to Planet Green, but they still haven't changed the name of the channel on my Guide/menu.

                        Meryl
                        http://inspiredbites.blogspot.com/

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                          HarryK RE: puppymomma Jul 31, 2008 10:43 AM

                          Since his initial ten shows I've still been watching. I miss a few, but tend to catch the repeats. So now that we're closer to 25 episodes into the series I'm still enjoying the new topics he's doing.

                          On one show he focuses almost exclusively on doing a proper roux. On another, how to make a perfect souffle. Maybe sounds boring, but I have seen a lot of posts where CHers say why not have a chef focus on some basics or on something specific, and I'm telling you, Emeril is delivering on this and doing it well. I'm learning little things every show, even on topics I thought I had down pretty well.

                          Eh, as they say, one person's trash is another person's gold. :)

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                          luvarugula RE: HarryK Aug 2, 2008 04:52 AM

                          I don't get it. It seems Emeril Green is monopolizing the food airwaves again. Every time I use to turn on the FN, there he was. Not anymore, I know, but what a relief. Now, every time I turn to the Planet Green network...there he is, again...back to back shows. And, I admit, I have not been able to get past the "bam" and the love of pork products, to watch this show. I like Supper Club, too. But, I miss the Manic Organic and Sara Snow. They always represented a simple green lifestyle...one I could get on board with. Where have those shows gone? Aren't they "green" enough?

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                            Minger RE: HarryK Aug 2, 2008 05:03 AM

                            I love the building projects on Planet Green. I don't like Emeril at all on that channel. Emeril needs to tone down his schtick several notches for the new format. I found the schtick tolerable on his previous show with the big audience because people expect the character and the interplay with the audience: this is dynamic with Letterman or Conan on their late night shows. In the new format, Emeril seems like a has-been and fake. (For example, he was cooking broccoli rabe, and mentions how his mother would put garlic into the hot oil at the end. Then he makes some other Emerilisms. Sounds totally canned. Would be fine in front of his cooing studio audience but insincere at the market with his tiny audience of ordinary folk.)

                            Green is about "fresh." Emeril is *not* "fresh." I don't know why the management at the networks thought Emeril should be the face of green cooking. Even with the Stepford persona, the likes of Nathan Lyon can much better represent theme of renewal and change. Each time I see big Emeril, I wonder what happened to the young skinny guy who saw the cameras with Julia Child. He became the embodiment of excess; that is his marketing position. It works for the middle America crowd that probably also enjoys Paula Dean. Now he is supposed to represent green cooking to yoga loving afflluent tree huggers? Get a clue.

                            When Emeril's show comes on, I totally tune it out and change the channel. The choice of Emeril makes no sense at all.

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                              alkapal RE: Minger Aug 4, 2008 05:40 AM

                              "In the new format, Emeril seems like a has-been and fake. (For example, he was cooking broccoli rabe, and mentions how his mother would put garlic into the hot oil at the end." --- minger

                              ____________

                              how does his broc rabe story make him a has-been or a fake?

                              btw, essence of emeril was a tremendous show. i think he is a nice person. and i am thoroughly tired of all the easy but tire-worn snobbery about "middle america".

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                                Val RE: alkapal Aug 4, 2008 07:39 AM

                                He IS a nice person...my brother serves on the New Orleans Youth Symphony Orchestra board...Emeril has helped with a number of fund-raisers. My son once served him here in Naples during the Wine Festival in 2006; he was totally gracious to the barstaff at that establishment.

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                                  Minger RE: alkapal Aug 12, 2008 01:59 PM

                                  the delivery seems canned. if you watch Emeril enough -- and i do watch Emeril -- you see the "seams" in his act. you see him saying the same schtick over and over again, and you see him aware of this.

                                  i have no problem with Emeril as he was before on FoodTV. I have a problem with Emeril being the culinary face of "green." green to me means freshness and innovation. i don't think either when i see Emeril.

                                  FoodTV did dump him from the main channel! They replaced him with brand new faces and personalities.

                                  Emeril has been drafted to play a transition role on the Planet Green. That role is to draw his fanbase to the new channel. Who wants to bet that in twelve months when the Green channel's viewership has grown that Emeril won't be there anymore?

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                                    Caroline1 RE: Minger Aug 13, 2008 05:31 AM

                                    You may be right, but for me the question is more will the Green Channel still be there? I watched Emeril Green for about 43 seconds this morning while channel surfing, and please tell me, what is "green" about a baked or a refrigerated souffle, unless it's pistachio?

                                    But he does get chops for supporting something INTENDED to be a way to educate the public. It's just off to a very slow start. IMO.

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                                      Phaedrus RE: Caroline1 Aug 13, 2008 06:56 AM

                                      Why does the Green channel have to be about green? The Food Channel isn't about food anymore.

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                                        HarryK RE: Phaedrus Aug 13, 2008 10:02 AM

                                        Why next thing you know they'll stop putting videos on MTV ... Oh, wait, that happened a decade ago. LOL

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                                      Jeserf RE: Minger Aug 13, 2008 06:26 AM

                                      No one has dubbed Emeril the culinary face of green.

                                      He doesn't even claim it.

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                                        Minger RE: Jeserf Aug 14, 2008 08:16 AM

                                        He is the green chef aka Emeril Green on the only green channel on cable TV. Somebody dubbed him something even if he doesn't claim it.

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                                          Jeserf RE: Minger Aug 15, 2008 07:42 AM

                                          yes, someone here.

                                          Emeril Green doesn't make me think "OMG Emeril is all environmentally now!".

                                          I see no problem with trying to educate people about certain things. Sustainable seafood, etc. Do I think WF is best for that? No, but it's easily the most accessable place for the average american to make a change to more responsible shopping and eating.

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                                            Minger RE: Jeserf Aug 15, 2008 08:48 AM

                                            > Emeril Green doesn't make me think "OMG Emeril is all environmentally now!".

                                            Exactly my point. Why is he on Planet Green?

                                            > Do I think WF is best for that? No, but it's easily the most accessable place for the average american to make a change to more responsible shopping and eating.

                                            You think the "average american" can afford to shop at Whole Foods? Maybe the average american in your part of La Jolla.

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                                              Jeserf RE: Minger Aug 15, 2008 09:59 AM

                                              La Jolla? I live in DC. So, sorry.

                                              And yes, I think the average American can afford to shop at Whole Foods. I compared my list between whole foods and giant, and whole foods was less expensive. The concept of teaching people to stop buying packaged/prepared food is very economically and environmentally savvy. And healthier.

                                              Not everyone has a bounty of farmers markets. Seeing someone buy produce and make it is, I'm sure, helpful to many people who shy away from doing that stuff themselves.

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                                  Jeserf RE: HarryK Aug 4, 2008 07:38 AM

                                  I actually am surprised by this show - I really like it.

                                  I'm turning in to a big fan of this network as a whole.

                                  I like to leave the TV on for my dog when I leave the house, and I tend to put Planet Green on more than Animal Planet, just because Planet Green is pretty calm and has the sounds of conversation vs. dog barks.

                                  That said, Emeril is fun to watch on this show! I HATED Emeril Live. With this show, I can actually see myself making some of the things AND I can see how personable he is with the people he meets at the store.

                                  But, it's Whole Foods. Do I shop there? Yes. But it's by no means "Green". A WAY better show would be Emeril meeting people around the country and visiting their farmers markets then going to cook with them. But, I still think the show is way better than what he had going on at TVFN

                                  1. yamalam RE: HarryK Aug 5, 2008 04:05 PM

                                    I like it too, especially given the meager selection of quality food programming we have on these days. But Emeril seems so...tired. Like all those years Bam-ing on FN really took their toll. Or maybe it's the pork fat catching up to him. Poor Grandpa E.

                                    I agree that the green angle is a bit of a stretch, but just how green can turning on an electric appliance and sitting on your ass in an air conditioned house really be? The channel is a total gimmick, but if it has good stuff, I'll watch. And if the "green movement" has prompted companies to start using wind and solar power just so they can put a patch on their website, that's cool. And just look what it's done for the fabric grocery bag industry. And it's bringing Tommy Lee back to the airwaves. Hooray green!

                                    1. Caroline1 RE: HarryK Aug 5, 2008 06:31 PM

                                      LOL! I've seen the show listed on my cable program but never bothered tuning in because I thught, "Who the blazes is Emeril Green?" '-)

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                                        Eileen RE: HarryK Aug 5, 2008 06:39 PM

                                        To me it seems like a commercial for Whole Foods.

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                                          oakjoan RE: Eileen Aug 5, 2008 11:38 PM

                                          I like the NYTimes article because it exposes what passes for "green" these days. Sundance Channel, etc. is just a bunch of rich yuppies buying solar panels. We need MUCH more than that if we're to survive. Here in the SF Bayarea, Berkeley and a couple of other local cities have begun a compost pick-up along with recycling and trash/garbage. I think this is great and much better than shopping for overpriced organic food at Whole Paycheck.

                                          The Times article said he made hamburgers with avocados on brioche with homemade mayo...now THAT's healthy and planet saving, eh?! He also made a chocolate souffle, and fried, breaded eggplant with shrimp and crab bechamel. Sheesh!!!!

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                                            HarryK RE: oakjoan Aug 6, 2008 01:41 AM

                                            >>> The Times article said he made hamburgers with avocados on brioche with homemade mayo...now THAT's healthy and planet saving, eh?! He also made a chocolate souffle, and fried, breaded eggplant with shrimp and crab bechamel. Sheesh!!!!'

                                            Sheesh, if your talking Green. Since he's as Green as petrified wood, I would instead say it sounds "Delicious!"

                                        2. Davwud RE: HarryK Dec 8, 2008 09:25 AM

                                          I watched a couple of episodes and like them.
                                          Other than he's using stuff from WF, there doesn't seem to be anything green about it. If you attach the word "Green" to something, people will buy into it without question. But that's another argument for another website.

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