what foods does your city have that mine doesn't?
i live in rochester ny and we have things like white hot dogs, franks hot sauce, a tons of other sauces for chicken wings, meat hot sauce, french onion dip, etc. etc.
my sister came to visit from south carolina. she brought some kinda cheese spread that i wish i could buy up here. it got me thinking that there has to be tons of foods in our country alone that arent in the major grocery chains. so here is the question. where do you live and what kind of foods does your area have? for example, rochester has a thing called a garbage plate. its 2 hots or cburgers with fries, mac salad with meat hot sauce all over it. perfect @ 2am. i'm almost positive that no place else has that. so....is there a spice rub that everyone in atlanta uses or bottled sauce that you can only get in say, utah.?
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Well in Quebec we have dish called poutine. Not sure if it has become popular where you live. It is home fries, curd cheese and topped with steaming gravy.
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re: linguafood
Have not had the chance to read through all the postings yet. Surely someone mentioned SCRAPPLE before for Philadelphia/PA?
Just want to say I was fed the Stryker brand of scrapple last week, cooked properly in a skillet, till the slice is crispy on both sides with the center still moist and soft and so tasty. It was perfection and I was in scrapple heaven.
Checking the Stryker Farm website also suggested to me that perhaps next year I shall get my roasting pig from them (their site displays some good-looking pig photos):
http://www.strykerfarm.com/#!-
re: borntolovefood
I recently had the chance to taste Goetta - the Cincinnati version of scrapple. Germans from PA who moved to Cincinnati missed scrapple, so came up with their own version, which changed a bit over the years and became known as Goetta. I can't really say I'll be seeking it out a second time. It has steel-cut oats in it which give it a chewy crunchiness. It was too fatty for me.
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re: Ruthie789
hello from BC to a fellow Canadian --- i think for its uniqueness, you have every right to reiterate a possible prev post --- after all - it's part of our historic Brit / French Euro contact here in N Am --- so from my POV poutine deserves more than just one "mention" --- the interesting thing is how it's become a "fast food" option --- and that some places (gasp) think that gravy and fries is "poutine" --- no, it has to have SQUEAKY curd --- even we out here in BC know that ; )
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Seattle style hot dogs -- polish sausage with cream cheese, sriracha, and grilled onions. Sometimes bacon bits, several other condiments/toppings are also available. Cream cheese is the most definitive part of it though. Sold at hot dog stands around the city, most frequently eaten by the post-clubbing 2am drunk crowd.
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Here in Tampa, Crab Chilau is one of those old recipes which is rarely cooked...
Here's one recipe, via Andy Huse...
http://cltampa.com/dailyloaf/archives...
Also Crab Croquettes/cakes, and our version of the Cuban sandwich.
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Pretty sure Rochester probably isn't a hotbed for...
Uni (we can even get it at our local farmers markets)
Carne Asada burritos (meat + guac + pico, no rice, no beans)
California Burrito (same as above exept with french fries added)
Craft beer capital of the U.S.
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this posting is 4 years old and i never put my two cents (or 2 dollars) in on behalf of hawaii?
first we have spam. now i know you all think you have spam too. But in Hawaii we actually like it and put it in everything from musubi to saimin to omelets. Nothing like a spam and egg sandwich.
Then there are all the modern adaptations of traditional hawaiian foods. Lau Lau, kalua pork (steamed pork), pipikaula (jerky), poke (chopped seasoned raw fish) haupia (coconut pudding).
Then we have the hapa (mixed) foods like saimin, chicken long rice, lomi salmon, etc.
Then there are things that may be in your city but aren't too common like chinese cracked seed, pickled dried fruit, etc. I think Hawaii has more unique food per capita than almost any place else in the world.
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re: Bill Hunt
Ditto on the pork roll. We rented a house on St. John from a retired couple from NJ we knocked on their door to get the keys and handed them a roll of Taylor Ham-how did you know! It's my favorite! Your from NJ.
Also no substitute for a Kellys in Neptune NJ Rubin
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re: Cameraman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_chicken
The mild is hot, the medium is ridiculous, and the hot will make you wish you were dead.
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Cretons, but many cities in New England with large French Canadian populations have this. More of a regional thing than a city thing.
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re: CanadaGirl
And I can finally get Halifax-style donairs in Toronto! ;-) New shop opened up- haven't tried it yet, but there's a thread on the TO board.
I thought it was messed up to see Calgarians lining up for poutine at Stampede.
2 foods I saw at Stampede that I haven't seen elsewhere (yet). Maple syrup bacon funnel cakes and cotton candy cupcakes. Didn't try either, so I have not idea how they taste. Wouldn't be surprised to see both show up at the CNE in TO next month.
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re: CanadaGirl
I missed that campaign some how. ;-)
Here's the new place, serving Halifax-style donairs with the sweet sauce- it's keeping former Haligonians happy, as far as I've heard:
http://thefuzzbox.ca/
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No one is speaking up for Nag's Head, North Carolina. It's not my city, but when I visited and went to just the local little cafe on the pier that had no tourist draw, I had not only I believe rice grits but eggs with either herring roe or the local blueback herring - (maybe not local anymore but still eaten), which had been preserved by salting and then soaked for use. Wasthe most japanese tasting non-japanese thing i've ever eaten.
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I love this topic and strive to try all of the regional specialities whenever I travel. It sounds like there are so many delicious places I have yet to visit. That said, although it is mentioned previously in this thread, I think we have many unique options in and around my home in Pittsburgh. The most distinctly mentionable, to me, would be:
Primanti's Sandwiches - originally devised in the Strip District, as a handheld meal for truckers, this sandwich consists of meat, cheese, fries, coleslaw and tomato, all between two thick slices of Italian bread.
Chipped Ham - Isaly's deli serves their deli ham, which is not particularly distinctive, sliced thinly and chopped. The preparation of the ham is unique to Pittsburgh and is the definitive choice for another Pittsburgh tradition: ham BBQ, which is Isaly's chipped ham stewed in BBQ sauce and served as a sandwich, in a burger bun, often with a slice of American cheese.
Turkey Devonshire - This open face turkey sandwich is very similar to the Hot Brown out of Louisville and consists of roast turkey on a slice of toast smothered with cream sauce and topped with several slices of bacon.
Heinz Ketchup - The Heinz company has gone global, so to speak, but they started here, still make their corporate headquarters here, and make the only ketchup worthy of consumption.
Klondike Bar - this chocolate-coated vanilla ice cream bar has also found its way across much of the country at some point in the not-too-distant past, but the treat originally called Pittsburgh home.
City Chicken - is actually pork skewers, usually breaded and baked. This should've never become a thing.
Iron City Beer - The main brewery, here in Pittsburgh, is actually not operational, though several plans to restart it have been discussed, but the beer has a strong heritage in Pittsburgh. Iron City Lager, IC Light, and their related brands, are all actually produced about 30 miles away, in Latrobe, PA, at the original Rolling Rock brewery.
Duquesne Beer - "The Prince of Pilsner." It's back, baby!
Pittsburgh Salad - This behemoth of a salad includes greens, meat, french fries, cheese, bacon, hardboiled egg, onion, tomato, bread crumbs, and often a host of other ingredients, usually with a healthy dose of ranch dressing.
Pittsburgh Rare - is a common way to order steak. It's not particularly unique to the city, but the term has gained general acceptance throughout much of the country, in my experience. The steak is scorched, actually burned, on the outside, bloody and rare on the inside.
Wedding Soup - I doubt the veracity of this, but I have heard Italian Wedding Soup described as a dish originating in southwestern PA. It's basically greens cooked in chicken broth with meatballs and, oftenly, small pasta such as pastina.
Wedding Cookies - This food tradition, which consists of tables full of cookie trays set out at weddings, is certainly unique to this region.
Smiley Cookies - A staple of Eat n' Park, a Pittsburgh institution, the cookies are sugar cookies with white icing and a smiley face painted on with icing.
Fried Fish Sandwiches - are particularly loved around here. Usually it's cod, battered and deep fried. The filet is usually around a foot in length and overhangs the traditional hamburger bun substantially. Most often the sandwich gets a healthy dose of tartar sauce.
Eastern European foods - are, generally, much more prevalent around here than elsewhere in the nation. Specifically, I'm thinking of pierogies, kielbasa, haluski, stuffed cabbage, and sausage & peppers.
Clark Bar - this chocolate-coated candy bar was created by the Clark Co., here in Pittsburgh.
Pepperoni Rolls - while not unique to Pittsburgh, I think the dish actually orginated in the region but further to the south, the delicious cheese and meat creation, baked in pizza dough and served with marinara sauce for dipping, is certainly popular here, and Mancini's makes a great variation.
Coney Dogs - this tradition is actually from a bit to the north, New Castle, to be specific, and not terribly distinctive. There are similar forms of this hot dog with meat sauce creation to be found in Cincinnati, New York, New Jersey, Washington DC, and in many other places throughout the country, BUT ... the meat sauce is absolutely unique to New Castle.
Big Mac - McDonald's signature sandwich was invented less than ten miles north of the city, in the North Hills of Pittsburgh.
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re: prima
Yeah, I actually mentioned the cookie tables in my screed. They are ubiquitous at weddings around here and absolutely unique to the area.
I can also relate to your comment on zucchini and banana bread. I'm not sure how either is unique to the region, but two weeks never went by before one would be on the table in my parents kitchen. In fact, there was a loaf of banana bread sitting on my parents counter when I stopped by there last week.
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re: kattyeyes
Woah there buttertart and kattyeyes, I never claimed zucchini and banana bread as unique to our region. I was responding to prima's post, where they say they had a lot of those two delicious breads growing up. I specifically said, "I don't know how either is specific to the region." I was relating to prima because I had both breads alot growing up as well.
In actuality, I would imagine both items to be more generational than regional, as you're saying.
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re: MonMauler
Just to clarify, by "pumpkin roll" and "banana roll", I'm talking about a pumpkin batter or banana batter baked in a jelly roll pan, rolled jelly roll-style, with a cream cheese-based frosting as the filling. I'm not talking about regular banana bread or zucchini bread. While it's quite possible pumpkin roll and banana roll are generational and/or available throughout North America and beyond, I've only had pumpkin roll and banana roll baked and assembled by Baby Boomers, and I've only eaten pumpkin roll and banana roll in western PA and upstate NY.
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re: prima
See, I didn't even read your response to my post correctly!
Banana bread was not a treat that I've ever had, although I will shortly. I love banana bread and cream cheese and the combination sounds awesome.
Pumpkin roll, though, was something that made a frequent appearance at family gatherings and in my home. It is my one aunt's favorite treat, and I've made her one for her birthday the past few years. Very good.
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re: MonMauler
No offense intended, MonMauler, so I hope none taken. It just struck me how much I associate banana bread with Nanny (she'd be in her 90s if we were lucky enough to still have her with us) and how it seems that particular item is truly of an era. As to pumpkin roll and banana roll, I've never had either, but, boy, does it sound delicious! I was a big fan of banana bread sandwiches, filled with cream cheese, however. :)
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re: kattyeyes
Absolutely no offense taken, kattyeyes. I just was trying to prevent this subthread from devolving into a discussion about how these breads aren't from the Western Pennsylvania region, which I wasn't claiming at all.
Actually, though, like prima, pumpkin roll was a staple in our family, as well. In fact, it is my one aunt's favorite treat. I made one for her birthday last year. It's just pumpkin bread spread with cream cheese and rolled like a jelly roll...at least that's the version we always had and the one I made.
I've never had banana bread sandwiches, though. They sound delicious! I'm gonna have to take the basic pumpkin roll idea and substitute in banana bread sometime soon. Back in the day one of my favorite treats were something called (I think) Banana Splits, which, IIRC, was banana bread filled with banana icing. My grandmother would buy a big box, and whenever we went over her house she would give me one of the individual packs.
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re: MonMauler
Smiley face cookies originated at Busken Bakery, a Cincinnati chain, not at Eat n Park. Busken opened and began making the cookies in 1928; Eat n Park didn't start making the cookies until 1986.
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re: egg75
Hi egg,
I'm actually not sure that's true. I remember reading somewhere that the smiley face didn't even appear in print until the 50's sometime. The guy that brought the cookie to eat n park said he used to get them as a child at a bakery in his hometown north of here sometime in the late 50's or so and later teamed up with that same bakery to bring the cookie to all eat n park outlets about thirty years ago. I remember because eat n park did a big promotion for their 25 year anniversary about five years ago.
My guess is this bakery in the town north of here was the first to create such a cookie.
But it doesn't matter. I didn't think this thread was about the origin of food dishes or items, which always devolves into a mess, and I never claimed the cookie originated here. I was pointing out that the smiley cookie is ubiquitous around Pittsburgh and particularly associated with eat n park, who actually holds a trademark on the design. I have never seen as much passion and attention devoted to the smiley cookie anywhere else. Apparently, they are loved in cincy, too. Didn't know that.
In any event, you guys can take credit for inventing the smiley cookie...you can be the smiley cookie capitol of the world. All I want is one Skyline chili outlet somewhere within half an hour drive or so.
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re: MonMauler
Literally LOL on the first sentence of your last paragraph. :) Way to start the morning with a smiley, shall we say?! Reminds me of Seinfeld's "look to the cookie" wisdom here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR9wi3...HAPPY FRIDAY and keep smilin'!
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re: MonMauler
Busken has been making them since the late 20s/early 30s, so they still preceded them even if the cookies were made near Pittsburgh in the 50s. There's poignant history tied up in them; they were created for children as a reaction to the Depression. I realize you didn't say they originated here, but most people in Pittsburgh do believe that, and claiming them as a regional specialty perpetuates that. They are quite ubiquitous in southern Ohio as well, and in recent years ad campaigns featuring them have won national awards.
I'm a Pittsburgher and I love the food here -- much to be proud of (not sure my arteries would agree!) This is one that I always have to speak up on, though, because that product very much originated somewhere else, and most people here are not even aware that it exists.
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re: MonMauler
Found a great Post-Gazette piece about this:
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/l...
It sheds some light on the topic!
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re: truman
Yeah, I wouldn't call Kennywood's Potato Patch fries distinctive or unique to the region. I've seen similar fries served all over.
That said, they are delicious. Everytime I go to Kennywood (hopefully again soon) my meal consists of Potato Patch fries (naked with the little cup of vinegar, with gravy or with cheese), followed by a twenty yard walk up to the confection stand for some funnel cake. That stand is the first place I ever had funnel cake, and I've loved it ever since.
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re: Perilagu Khan
Nope, southern NM. We even green chile wine & beer. I miss the food I could get in NJ, but man I fell in love with green chile when I moved here.
People here literally buy it by 20lb burlap sacks when the harvest season starts, stand in long lines in front of the supermarket to get them roasted (then, they are dumped into black garbage bags) and then freeze it to last them the year.
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re: Jackie007
Oh, I know full well of southern New Mexico and its cuisine. I've been visiting Ruidoso since approximately 1972, and I've spanned the entirety of the region from Silver City to Socorro to Clovis to Las Cruces. With any luck I may retire there.
PS--If you find yourself in Roswell, make haste to Martin's Capitol Cafe and order two bowls of the green chile stew. I asked them for the recipe and they rightly told me to go to hell.
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re: shnoopy
No, they were more like what most think of as a peanut, not soft at all, but they were still delicious. I am aware that peanuts are not nuts, my uncle grew them on his farm, and I toyed with the idea of growing them in my garden, read up on them quite a bit, but never got around to it.
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Lubbock, Texas:
August Fried Pies in about eight different flavors
Goodart's Peanut Patties
Lots of good, but not spectacular BBQ
Chicken fried steak was supposedly invented 50 miles south of here in Lamesa. It's certainly a local fav, and many places make a very good CFS.
According to many well traveled Texans, Lubbock has the best Thai food in the Lone Star State.
Green chile chicken linguini at Orlando's on Avenue Q.
The pizza at One Guy's on 50th.
Carnitas at Cancun on Slide.
The Smokin' Mad Jack sandwich at Gardski's Loft.
The Chicken 65, Chili Chicken and spinach pakoras at Sri Maharaja. I've been to Indian restaurants all over the western hemisphere, and I'm not sure I've found a better one than Sri Maharaja.
There are many classic Texas burger stands in Lubbock. A classic Texas burger features a thin, wide patty; lots of mustard; diced onion; minced iceberg lettuce, and a slice or two of tomato on a lightly toasted bun. Samburgers makes the best example of this specialty, IMO.
The enchiladas here are superb. Plain ol' beef or cheese are featured.
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In the town I live, Clams (for the picking, if you so desire)Oysters and Lobsters right off the boat. Arguably the best pizza is in nearby New Haven, with white clam casino pizza a local specialty.
Foxon Park sodas, made in East Haven- still made with real sugar
Hot buttered lobster rolls in CT and all seafood, often fried, are regional staples.
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Completely forgot... (old thread though)... chili size. (just a few places still serve this).
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re: kattyeyes
A method of serving chili and a hamburger.
The bun is halved and toasted. One half is placed on the bottom of the serving plate (more bowl like but not a true bowl, but plates are used some places). The patty of beef is placed over the toasted flattened 1/2 bun. A large (chili size) ladle of homemade chili is poured over the patty - usually beanless chili. Grated cheese and onions are spread across teh top. The second 1'/2 of the toasted bun is cut in semicircular halves and placed atop the concoction like a garnish.
Chili Size.
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Toronto - The Jamaican beef patty. Ground beef and spices in a yellow semicircle pastry. Cheap, tasty and ubiquitous .
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re: plasticanimal
In addition to TO and NYC, Jamaican patties can also be found in London, Calgary, Montreal and Jamaica. I'm guessing they can be found elsewhere, too. ;-)
Arva, Ontario: Chocolate dipped buttertarts
Toronto: Greek fries (although it's possible they're available elsewhere- I've only seen them on menus in TO)
Calgary & Toronto (although maybe these are showing up everywhere these days): maple bacon donuts.
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re: plasticanimal
Considering Jamaican Patties are basically in every Grocery Store now frozen, they are hardly a tough find in any major city. Plus the Jamaican diaspora is large in South Florida, NYC, Hartford, Philadelphia, DMV, Boston, London, etc...
Now I will say Toronto does have some great patty shops (Randy's, Allens, Micidean and Tinnel's to name the best)
One type of food I did not find until I moved to the Boston Area 5 years back was Cape Verdean Food, cant say I have seen that available anywhere else I have lived.
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When I lived in Adelaide, South Australia, the locals were fond of pie floaters, especially after the pubs closed and you needed food in you prior to going home. Take a traditional meat pie, flip it upside down on top of pea soup and splash tomato sauce (catsup) on top. Yum. When I get the craving I go to the Tuc Shop in NYC and ask them to float my pie. Heaven.
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Gardena, CA
A suburb in Los Angeles with some of the best delicious/authentic hawaiian and japanese food in the states including hand rolled udon, homemade tofu, yakitori from every part of the chicken imaginable, Takoyaki something usually not found outside of Osaka, shabu shabu, fresh cut sushi from Marukai market. For Hawaiin food we have King's (hawaiin bread french toast!), Bruddahs, and a locals only place at Gardena Bowl. I'm not even asian but I miss my hometown foods :-)....live in boston now›1 Reply -
That "some kind of cheese spread" your sister brought up is likely pimento cheese. Always better homemade than bought. A search here on Chowhound should produce great recipes for you to try.
That is... in case you haven't already in the last three years. ; )
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re: Leepa
Minna cheese is easy to make. However, (I may have to duck) I have found a great store brand that fools even the most minna cheese picky people: Palmetto Cheese.
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Des Moines area;
Taylor's Maid-rites in Marshalltown, Pella Dutch letters & ring bologna, AE cottage cheese, dips, sour cream, etc. (I ship to my sis in Vegas), Grimes sweet corn. Maytag bleu from the farm-store in Newton.IMO, the best local is Graziano Brother's Itailian sausage and South Union Bread.
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This is an old post, but I'm from Halifax and need to add donairs to the list. Other places have something they call donairs, and some people say it is the same as a Gyro, but anyone from Halifax will tell you they are not the same anywhere else. It is the sauce that is different, as here it is sweet and vinegary but NOT garlicy at all. Yum!
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re: piccola
How does it differ from the basic turkish Döner kebab ? I know in Germany they serve the Döner kebab differently. Even in LA there are places (beyond the armenian or lebanese or israeli place that serves shawarma) selling Döner kebab as such... e.g. Spitz Restaurant, http://www.eatatspitz.com/. So just am interested in a canadian version (gyros I think is linguistically the same thing in greek as turkish döner kebab).
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re: Jerome
I'm not really sure how it's different, but I can provide details. The type of donair in Halifax was created by Lebanese immigrants, so it's probably closer to a shawarma than a Turkish doner kabob. But I've had shawarma, and they are quite different It is made from ground beef (usually) and spices, cooked on a vertical spit. It is sliced off thinly, put into pita with onions, tomatoes and sauce. The sauce is made of evaporated milk, sugar, and garlic. Yum :)
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re: CanadaGirl
That's very interesting. Shawarma - as served in Germany - is *always* massive slices of meat that have been marinating and are then put on the vertical spit. The ground meat/spam-type kind is more often found in döner kebabs here.
And true Greek gyros is like shawarma - no ground meat either.
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re: linguafood
Shawarma is made from chunks of meat here too. But I wouldn't call Halifax donairs "spam-like", as the good places mix it from scratch and cook it fresh. I know the place near us that I prefer for my infrequent donairs purchases its ground beef from the same butcher I purchase my meats.
I've not really had similar types of food in many other places, but anyone who as had one will attest that our donairs are not like other places. They are not authentic to anything except Halifax :)
(I didn't read any implied insult with your "Spam-like" comment, FYI :). )
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re: CanadaGirl
Well, the döner's not totally spam-like either. It's just a consistency I don't prefer with grilled meat. Like friend bologna. And I actually *like* bologna (well, to be honest, it's gotta be pistachio mortadella).
But I'd take a shwarma or gyros over a döner any day.
PS: I've never even tried Spam. Ha! :-)
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re: CanadaGirl
I worked for Big Red's Pizza in the south shore. Just used evaporated milk, white vinegar and white sugar. I've seen recipes call for garlic powder, but I don't know how common it is. I've also noticed differences in consistency. At Joey's Pizza in Sackville, NB they use this amazing whipped donair sauce. Other places appear to cheat and use condensed milk, which gives it more of a yellowy "pudding" consistency. This is the stuff you'll find in the grocery store, and what they served us in meal hall at my university. The stuff I made at Big Red's was just carefully stirred and curdled. The consistency could get dangerously thin without proper care.
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re: CanadaGirl
Pizza Delight has a unique style of donair where they use kind of a flat pizza dough shell on which to compile the ingredients. They don't use a thin Lebanese pita, which is the standard. As for their donair sauce, it's ok. Actually, Big Red's uses pizza dough too, which they fold over the meat and bake in the oven. Then they put the donair in a bowl and douse it in donair sauce. I haven't eaten at Greco in forever because I loathe their pizza, so I doubt their donairs are anything to write home about. My favourite place is Venus Pizza on Barrington St.
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Knott's Boysenberry punch
Boysenberry pie
Clearmans cheesespread. Okay so it's available in markets now but it started in the area.
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i'm a lifelong californian, but lived temporarily in utah from january through mid-may. i discovered fry sauce, which i have never seen anywhere else. it's a ketchup-mayo mix with spices served with french fries. it's sold in stores there and served in all restaurants. families even have their own recipes.
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re: Jerome
I've had to give this a lot of thought. It's not just northern Nevada but also cities in the west with large Basque populations (of which we are one). Picon Punch - bell shaped glass with ice, a little grenadine, picon liquor, soda water and a float of brandy. Garnished with lemon peel. Deadly - but oh so good. The other would be solomo. It is a sliced pork loin whose preparation I can't really figure out that is covered with roasted garlic cloves and roasted red peppers. My favorite thing to order when we go out here.
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re: Jerome
sure, thousand island on burgers happens all over the place. my original post was about this specific condiment called "fry sauce" that i have only seen in utah. (there are even a variety of brand names.) even other out-of-state transplants to utah told me that they had never seen it until they moved to utah. you had likened it to thousand island, and i tried to explain that it differed. they only use it for fries - not on their burgers.
i'm surprised that you have only noticed ranch for fries recently... i have seen ranch offered with fries for at least the last 15 years or so.
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Fiddleheads
Caesar (Bloody Mary with clam juice)
Poutine (French fries, cheese curds and gravy - OK, this is mainly Québecois)
Fish and Brewis (Ditto, from Newfoundland - absolutely poisonous, salt cod, hard bread, and pork bits and fat - but delicious!
Peameal back bacon - not the stuff called "Canadian bacon" in the US)
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Unless you live in East Asia, your city probably doesn't have an okonomiyaki place where you cook it yourself on a teppan grill!
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These are somewhat more regional than city-specific, but a few I thought of are Maid-Rite sandwiches in Iowa (Rosanne called them loose meat sandwiches); horseshoes in Decatur, IL (open faced sandwhich - usually hamburger or ham - topped with french fries and drowned in chees sause, aka melted CheezWhiz); toasted ravioli in St. Louis. 20 years ago there used to be a lot more, but now it seems like you can get almost anything anywhere.
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I scratched my head reading through this thread, and I have to say, as enormous as the Greater Toronto Area is (population around 6 million), I can't think of anything that is uniquely Toronto. Other posters have mentioned peameal (or "back") bacon, but that is available all through Ontario, and certainly didn't originate in Toronto. Ditto for butter tarts (and the best aren't found in Toronto, as a search through the Ontario board will show).
We have a wide variety of tremendous food in Toronto from all corners of the globe, but the closest thing I could think of to a truly unique Toronto food was the apple fritters at Tim Horton's pre-Wendy's. They were big, filled with apple chunks, and delicious. The smaller version with less fruit now available is a pale comparison to the original.
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Montreal, land of poutine, smoked meat, tourtiere, steamed hot dogs, maple syrup - sugar - butter, REAL bagels,
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re: bigfellow
Large and rectangular sounds like the same steamer box they use for the burgers. Maybe all you're missing is the trays for the meat and the cheese? Does it look like this?
http://steamcheeseburgerchest.com/buy...
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SOUTHERN-STYLE PIMIENTO CHEESE: Process in Cuisinart 8-12 oz extra sharp cheddar cheese with 3 oz cream cheese, 1/3 cup mayonnaise, 1/4 cup Dijon mustard, 1/2-1 tsp dry Coleman's mustard powder, a pinch of hot red pepper. When it's smooth, add 1/2-1 cup canned pimientos and process briefly to whomp them up. Taste and correct---should taste intensely cheesey and have a little bite to it. This is addictive. You will not be able to walk past the refrigerator without grabbing some.
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Atom, I lived in Rochester for two years as a child and my memory is that sometimes Rochestarians didn't necessarily eat different foods but sometimes called them by different names (different to my Midwestern ears). A hot dog was a hot or a Texas hot. A doughnut was a fried cake. There were wonderful sandwich steaks called Dream Steaks and a frozen confection called Frosted Malted that I have never found anywhere else. At a bakery my mother used to buy spice cake with chocolate icing, something else I've never run into since, and very good. And all the kids I knew ate salt on apples and pretzels with ice cream. Re the cheese your sister brought, I wonder if it may have been Pimiento Cheese, very popular in the South. If so, I can post a recipe for it.
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Middletown, CT is the home of steamed cheeseburgers and scacciata (Melilli, Sicily is our sister city).
Here's some steamed cheeseburger history for ya! My uncle's place (Alfredo's Riverside, now closed) used to make them. Brian O'Rourke of O'Rourke's Diner still does.
http://davescupboard.blogspot.com/2008/06/in-praise-of-steamed-cheeseburgers.htmlAnd that's one more thing Middletown has that your city may not--the best little hometown diner in the world--one that literally rose from the ashes after a tragic fire, rebuilt with help from the local community who rallied to make it so. Brian O'Rourke has an exceptionally creative culinary mind and a big heart...a part of which goes into all of his creations. As you'll hear him say about his specials, "There's a lot of love in that dish!"
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OK, here's some more: smoked shark, roasted white maize (on sticks), sandwich Cubano, borojo drinks (a foul fruit that makes you "strong"), champurado, and pan de bono made from cassava. Worst is "salsa rosada" a nationally manufactured "pink sauce" that is a mixture of mayo and ketchup. Best is that people know how to eat whole fish - although it is often deep fried tilapia.
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re: sunangelmb
Ditto on the pork roll. We rented a house on St. John a couple from a retired couple from NJ we knocked on their door to get the keys and handed them a roll of Taylor Ham-how did you know! It's my favorite! Your from NJ.
Also no substitute for a Kellys in Neptune NJ Rubin
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re: purple goddess
Its not really a pie floater unless you get it from the pie cart in front of the Railway Station in Adelaide.. alas, these have been removed due to the Tram extensions onto North Terrace. But the 24 hour bakery on O'Connell St in No Adelaide makes a nice pie floater, and I have mine with tomato sauce on top. Lets see other South Australian yummies would be Balfours Frogs, Coopers Beer, Farmers Union Iced Coffee (which I crave here in America)... people have already mentioned vegemite and tim tams. But I think what South Australia does really well are wines.. I miss driving weekends to the Barossa (Shiraz), Clare Valley (Reisling), McClaren Vale (Shiraz) and the Adelaide HIlls (Sauv Blanc). South Australia rocks!
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i'm not in america can i still play? obviously here in oz we have vegimite, tim tams, vanilla slices, lamingtons, ausome meat pies, sausage rolls, sausage sizzles, etc but here in Melbourne we can get fresh castlemaine dips with 100% real ingredients (there hummus is mostly chickpeas with just a little garlic and lemon) and we have some awesome local cheeses such as meredith dairy producers (oh my the feta) and holy goat goat cheeses, and we have lots of amazing artisian and organic bread makers ( phillipas, purple goddess you probably know what i mean!) and we have some beasutiful fresh fish such as blue grenadier and nile perch as well as sydney rock oysters and tassie ones too! Go Melbourne!
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Los Angeles - Sand Dabs = a West Coast fish of the Flounder family. Not fantastic, but very enjoyable. I've done a food search for it on Menupages in NYC and no place has it.
Next Time you watch the "Spirit of St. Louis" with Jimmy Stewart, you see the head of the airplane manufacturer co. cooking them up on a piece of sheet metal using a blow tourch.
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Tucson has its own style of Sonoran Mexican food. It's a little bit different everywhere else. Not to say that it's al the same everywhere else- every area has its own style.
Does anybody have a cheese tostada/cheese crisp (big flour tortilla broiled or fried with melted cheese and sometimes green chiles on top) available at restaurants? It's served on a raised tray over the center of the table. Huge gut bomb and it's the absolute best.
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I cannot believe that someone from St Louis has not mentioned Provel Cheese....unique to "St Louis Style Pizza" which is to die for. (Unless you're not from St Louis, in which case you'll find it vile.)
Alas, I live in Arizona now and have to have my St Louis Style pizza with Provel cheese FedEx'd to me.
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Meat pies
Chicko rolls
Pine Lime Splices
Chokito bars
Violet Crumble
Yabbies
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Japanese food and Indian food. Rochester has it, but it's not that great.
I lived in the ROC for about 7 years and I really miss The Flour City Diner and Pellegrino's.
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You're not too far from Buffalo, where we've got real chicken wings (sadly not those at Anchor Bar), real frozen custard (such a hard find elsewhere!), Weber's mustards, and of course Beef on 'Weck!
I used to live in Lafayette, LA, where we had Turducken for Thanksgiving and boiled crawfish with special dipping sauce every day from February through June...Also, some good dirty rice with a deep, dark roux-based gumbo? Delicious!
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re: lynnlato
colony grill is a hoot. it's a low-rent place/bar on myrtle avenue that's been around for generations.
the pizza has a cracker-thin crust. i'm sure there's some sauce there just like i'm sure there's some vermouth in some of my martinis. the cheese is somehow infused into this bed of deliciousness. hot oil (think hot asian oil) is splashed all over the pie. i like my hot oil pie with pepperoni.
some thoughts: you'll need a few hundred napkins to wipe off the excess oil ( a good thing) from your hands and face. cash only.
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From Buffalo, live on Long Island. Buffalo has better wings than anywhere else (at least true Franks Hot Sauce Buffalo wings -- Rochester has great alternatives like country sweet); also Sahlens/Ted's hot dogs, Anderson's custard and curly-q fries, beef on weck, sponge candy, Friday fish fry with Haddock as the fish. Long Island - Pizza's pretty good, but not really unique.
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Pimiento cheese - never met anybody from outside the South who knew what it was - but they take to it on introduction. Brunswick stew. Muffaletta sandwiches. Gumbo. Calas (sweet rice fritters) from New Orleans, chess pie, ramps, grits, country ham, biscuits 'n' gravy with sausage, pralines, chicken-fried steak, catfish 'n' hushpuppies, sorghum pie, fried green tomatoes, deviled eggs, cream of peanut soup, pepper vinegar, cracklin' cornbread, pickled peaches, saw mill gravy, fried pies, beignets, stack cake, breakfast shrimp, she-crab soup, sweet potato pie, Moon Pies, jambalaya, poke, shuck beans, red beans 'n' rice, Key Lime pie. I cheated, in that I didn't limit it to a single city.
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re: Potomac Bob
I grew up in the North eating pimiento cheese on rolls for breakfast and tea. Now in NYC I occasionally splurge on a package of freshly made cheese from my local market (where I can also buy Moonpies, which are ubiquitous as ramps). Deviled eggs were a regular treat around Easter and fried pies were as common as sweet potato pie in Chicago, too, which is to say they were available at chain grocers, just as much as the pepper vinegar which was typically homemade but also available at the local Filipino market. When we traveled outside the city and headed either south of Kankakee or west of Belvedere it became country cuisine all the way: biscuits and gravy, fried green tomatoes, CFS -- my favorite part of family road trips. The rest of your list, however, belies a terrific life of regional good eats!
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re: Potomac Bob
One of my favorite words:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/belies
To show to be false, etc.
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re: Potomac Bob
How embarassing. I'd like to blame the mistake on being only half-awake after coming in the office. I think the word I meant to use was "betrays" ( as in "reveals"). I am starting to regret revealing my other life as a writer in another thread because that error would seem to belie my abilities!
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I live in the Detroit area now where Vernor's ginger ale is unique However, I was born and raised in Overland Park, Kansas and I still crave Ott's salad dressing. It is made in Carthage, MO. and there's nothing like it. It's kinda like French or Russian but special. I've never seen it out of the Kansas City area. We mail order it.
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re: LJS
Yep:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/deepfrie...I went in to the Big Apple Inn one time for some tamales, and they were making up a bunch of sandwiches- they had a huge pot full of boiling pig ears! I started to try one but chickened out...
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I'll give a couple of examples of food two cities have that nobody had, but now everyone has. I live in Houston, and in the late 70's and early 80's I visited Rochester and upstate New York on numerous occasions and had heard of Buffalo wings. Naively, I asked in Rochester where to get them, and was told Buffalo, go figure. Anyway, I went to Anchor Bar in Buffalo, wonderful. At the same time, beef fajitas were becoming popular at a hole in the wall called Ninfas, on Navigation Blvd. in east Houston. At the time they were called tacos ala Ninfa and were made with ribeye and would melt in your mouth on wonderful soft flour tortillas. They actually migrated from south Texas/northern Mexico but were popularized here. By the way, there is no such thing as a chicen or shrimp fajita, it is a misnomer, named by whom, I don't know.
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NJ sloppy joes.
Pork Roll.
Italian Hot Dogs.
Italian Subs. (HSP let, tom, onion, O&V, S&P, Oregano)›9 Replies-
re: MattInNJ
What's in a NJ sloppy joe? Just curious as I'm originally from PA and my mom always made sloppy joes for us as kids and no one I know does that. If they do anything, it's a MANWICH - ugh. But hers were very basic, browned ground beef and onion, ketchup, sugar, a little mustard, worcestshire and cider vinegar. Simmer on low for a half hour. We called it hamburg bbq.
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The only thing Chicago has, that I cant find a good version of anywhere else, is the Italian Beef Sandwich, or the Beef and Sausage Combo, both with sweet and hot peppers.
Many people think Chicago is pizza and hotdogs, I dont.., every city has hotdogs, and pizza, and I dont think Chicago's pizza is anything special.
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The cheese spread your sister brought up was likely pimento cheese. Very common down here in the South.
In my hometown in central PA, every Italian resto and family cans their own Italian peppers. These are banana peppers sliced and cooked w/ garlic and spices. Some folks add sliced olives & mushrooms. You then can them w/ an olive oil blend. They are served w/ italian bread to start a meal. They are also eaten on salads and hoagies. I'm fairly certain that you can't find these peppers anywhere else. It's just a regional pa thing. It's funny b/c everyone swears they make the best peppers. People talk about each other's peppers. It's a competition.
Shoe Fly Pie!
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re: lynnlato
as a resident of sw pa, i am also aware of shoe fly pie. sometimes i forget that it exists, then i go home to moms house and there it is. may be one of the ultimate comfort foods in my book!
we also have primanti brothers in pgh. best sandwich ever. they have multiple options, but the big thing is every sandwich has the french fries and cole slaw ON it. vinegar based dressing on the slaw, not mayo.
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*Maple candies(ok , you can get these in NH and VT as well, but they're definetly a Northeast thing) One of my favorite sweets...
*Italian sandwiches- don't know why they are called that, but that's what the sub shops in Maine call deli meat, cheeese and veggies in a sub roll with oil, salt and pepper.
*Lobster rolls at McDonald's.That's all I can come up with at this moment in time!
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re: Bunnyfood
OH yeah; the Maple candy company up in St. Johnsbury that makes and sells it; nothing can beat their stuff. "Lobster rolls" from NH would be a 'grinder' in Michigan or a 'sub' and most would call it a sub. The lobster would be hard to find here, though!! Definitely not at McD's. We do have a thing called crazy potatoes in this village...shredded fries, cheese, mushrooms (w/or w/o) and maybe something else, but I don't order them so can't remember...
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Both my home towns:
Corner Brook, Newfoundland (Canada)-cods' tongues, cod's cheeks, seal flipper pie
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re: LJS
And the ubiquitous yet commercially near invisible pea meal bacon sandwich (which IMO is what Americans ought to be referring to as "Canadian bacon" rather than the delicious in its own right smoked pork tenderloin that seems to have been stuck with the moniker but is not called bacon up here).
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re: EWSflash
Peameal is ground dried peas. Peameal bacon is a brined pork loin, rolled in cornmeal (originally peameal, but I have never had peameal bacon that was actually rolled in peameal), and sliced and fried. The fat is trimmed fairly lean - just enough left that the cornmeal gets nice and crunchy when you fry it up. Good next to eggs, better (IMO) piled on a kaiser with a healthy smear of good mustard.
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re: Wahooty
I was in Toronto a couple of weeks ago and my first stop was to the market for a 'peameal on a bun' with HP sauce. I don't know why I love them so much, but I was sorry I only managed to eat one the couple of days I was there. It's my 'Toronto food' and I have only ever had it in Toronto.
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I moved from Milwaukee to Rochester in 1965 when I was 11. I can still remember going to Don & Bob's for the first time, seeing the white hots on the griddle and thinking, "Cool! They have bratwurst here!" My parents did their best to convince me that I shouldnt order one, but I would have none of that. Well, a white hot is no bratwurst. Their burgers were great (I think--it's been 40 years since I've had one), and fondly recall the counter people yelling back to the grill people, "TWO GROUND, TWO! ONE RED HOT, ONE!"
I also remember ball donuts, something I have not seen in any other city to this day.
While there are brands that are unique to the Milwaukee area (I returned here in 1969), I cant think of any products that are strictly unique. Being a dairy state, there will be more varieties of cheese than average; with a German/Polish heritage, there are more varieties of sausage; the Catholic heritage has left a legacy of Friday Night Fish Fries (and church bingo games). They still brew some beer here.
But I have never had a creme puff like the ones at Wisconsin State Fair anywhere else.
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re: Jen76
I lived in Racine for a short while and forgot about kringle! I LOVED that stuff! I do also fondly remember the Friday Night Fish Frys. "Cod for God" I believe it was called around lent. I had no idea how hard it was to find good, fluffy-battered, fried fish after living there for awhile.
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re: Fydeaux
I'm pretty sure that the only people I know who relish cheese curds are from Wisconsin. Even being from NE Iowa, cheese curds never seemed to have made it over the border. Now thanks to Culver's (based somewhere in Wisconsin I believe), I can finally get walleye and a great tenderloin (along with cheese curds if I wanted them) in Houston. I remember the first time I went to a Sonic and tried to order a tenderloin you'd have thought I had a third eye or something. No respectable "drive in restaurant" in the midwest would think of not having tenderloins on the menu.
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Rattlesnake, locally harvested mesquite honey, cactus pads sold in the produce section, locally grown black sphynx dates (which are positively to die for), olive oil produced from locally grown olives.
We also have Frank's hot sauce though (that stuff is awesome and in my pantry), Lebanon bologna (also awesome), Wisconsin cheese curds.
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I worked in Rochester for a bit and had a hard time finding decent Indian or proper vegetarian fare other than the bottomless salad bowl at Olive Garden. But once I returned home to NYC, I was fixated on the garbage plate and white hots. I have been looking for a place ever since then to feed my addiction!
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re: LaLa
Oooooh, you're from Kentucky! I used to visit friends in Winchester KY when I was a kid. I loved getting Ale 8's and the beer cheese is delicious! I always look for it when I'm in a new grocery store, but have never found it anywhere but in KY. Sadly, I haven't had any since, oh, 1986. :-(
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re: going nowhere
I grew up in Lexington. When i moved to Dallas, I discovered you can make beer cheese with a food processor. BUT, and this is a big caveat, you're going to have to futz with the recipe quite a bit to get it to taste right. The recipe givers never seem to give up all the secret ingredients, which is I suppose, understandable, since it's a competitive and lucrative business. It's been years since I made it, as my ex was from central KY, too. Since we broke up, I honestly hadn't thought about beer cheese, but we sure enjoyed it in our younger days. Our friends in Dallas loved it, too, as it went so well with Shiner Bock, probably because it's a little spicy with the sweet beer. Well, and because Shiner is cheap and we were in our twenties...
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re: Fydeaux
I'm SURE I've only been getting pretty lame brats, because they've almost always been sooooo mild. And I do have a memory of really tasty ones. But white hots I think by design are more strongly flavored -- that's not a critiscm of bratwurst. It's like saying hot Italian sausage is spicier than sweet.
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Welcome to CH, atom1980.
I've never been to Rochester, so I couldn't say with certainty, but...
Bagels with smoked whitefish
True Neapolitan-style pizza and NY-style pizza sliceI imagine there are plenty of things that NYC generally does better than Rochester, but as for foods you absolutely couldn't getup there, I bet the list is short.
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Lebanon bologna & sweet Lebanon bologna, Tastykakes, hoagie spread, PA Dutch Chicken Pot Pie and all the UTZ's snack foods I can eat. Plus when deer season is in
deer bologna and deer jerky.›17 Replies-
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re: Passadumkeg
Passadumkeg: remember high school and remove them from the case and get creative about storage. I used to be able to carry almost a 12-pack in an overcoat, or stow a case in an almost empty refrigerator and it still looked empty.
the containers aren't open, you're not drunk, so what if there are beers under the seats, in (what little) trunk a Miata offers. glove compartment, etc.
but be careful under the driver's seat, I once had an empty coke can roll forward and jam under the brake pedal. my habits changed after that.
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re: Passadumkeg
My mom's from the Mahanoy City / Gilberton area. I live in a great food city (New Orleans) but as it's Holy Saturday, I'm thinking of home and wishing I was back up there eating pizza with all my cousins after blessing baskets at church. Don't forget:
--Bleenies at church picnics and football games
--Tastykakes
--A-Treat grapefruit soda
--Sweet lebanon bologna
--Pierogies [happily, I can buy Mrs. T's at Winn-Dixie]
--Kielbasi [I'm wearing a Kovalonek's T-shirt as I write this!]
--Birch beer
--Costas Peanut Butter Club Sandwiches!!!I miss Yuengling too [the brewery tour is great!] but have found that an Abita is a decent substitute . . . and while po'boys are good, you can NOT get a decent Italian hoagie here! Berrigan's in Bloomsburg is always my first stop when I'm home.
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re: kpaumer
Yes I live close to you now. I lived in Iowa for awhile and was surprised how much I missed the PA Dutch food and varieties here. Chips were the biggest here is Martins, Herrs, Utz, kay & Rays, Gibbles, Goods and many snack foods but there only the national brands like Doritios.
1 Thing in Iowa I miss is Casey's Pizza and fresh off the line Krispy Kremes.
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