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options near madison &45th

I am looking for good but low budget breakfast and dinner options when i stay in NYC next month.

For breakfast I am looking for basic diner or coffee shops for bagels eggs bacon pancakes etc. we might go slightly more upscale for sunday brunch

For dinner i am looking for casual, with some healthy options.


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  1. How low is low budget? Does this include tax, tip, wine/drinks?

    How far are you willing to go out of your way from your hotel for dinner?

    Where are you coming from (don't want to recommend foods that your hometown does better)? Is it your first time in town? If not, where have you eaten before and did you like those places?

    What types of cuisines are you interested in for dinner? Will you be traveling alone or with others? Many casual places don't take reservations or are very small. Would you be OK with dining at a bar or a counter?

    Note that you are in Midtown so places may be more expensive due to neighborhood (easier to jack up the price for tourists and business visitors), there are good number of chain restaurants (we can assume you don't want that?), and prices in Manhattan are much higher than in other parts of the USA.

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    1. re: kathryn

      I am hoping we can get decent meals for $12 at breakfast and $25-30 at dinner (per person including tip and non-alcoholic drinks). I dont mind eating at a counter for breakfast ...but not for dinner. I would prefer to avoid chains but then again I dont really know how pricy the area is to know if this is reasonable.

      I will be travelling to NYC with my spouse for the first time from Toronto. Primarily we are there to see the major sights. We will probably eat breakfast and dinner within walking distance of madison and 45th... and then venture farther away for lunch spots.

      We have a wide variety of restaurants available in Toronto and I am open to most kind of food. When in Toronto, we typically go to neighbourhood places for Italian, Thai, Polish,German, Greek, Chinese and usually spend around $50-60 for 2 people including drinks.

      1. re: Bumpkin

        Szechuan Gourmet on 39th between 5th and 6th is within your budget and many hounds consider it the best or perhaps one of the two best Chinese restaurants in Manhattan, but I'm aware that the consensus opinion is that Toronto is a good deal stronger in Chinese restaurant quality than New York. Nevertheless, I doubt you'd feel cheated as long as you stick to spicy dishes there.

    2. I agree with kathryn. You're not located in a low-cost area - except for low-ambiance places that cater to working lunch people, etc. 45th street between Lex and 3rd has some (mostly asian) restaurants along those lines. You could also go to 2rd or 1st ave; in both cases the choices may get better as you get closer to 50th street or above.

      1. Just thought of another option. Naples 45 is on 45th between Vanderbilt and Lex - closer to Lex. Might be good for both reasonably priced breakfast and dinner.

        1. hi bumpkin, you probably know this, but the area where you're staying is called turtle bay. if you google those terms and also look on menupages.com for the east 40's listings (http://www.menupages.com/restaurants....), it might make your search easier.

          in general, if you stroll over to 3rd ave, you'll be able to find a lot of options -- a LOT of sort of samey irish pubs -- for a quick, inexpensive dinner. none are particularly standout in my opinion, but some, like O'Neil's on 3rd ave between 45th & 46th st, are not bad. (grilled fish are a healthier option, there.


          smorgaschef on 2nd ave. and 49th st. might be of interest if you like scandinavian food. apparently they also serve brunch, though i've never tried it.

          and soba totto on east 43rd st and 3rd ave is a good option for soba and udon (cold soba is wonderful in this heat) and a few yakitori offerings. try to go soon after it opens at 6 p.m., though, since it gets very crowded very quickly.

          the options get better as you go further south. it's actually not too far of a walk from where you are down to ethos in the 30s on 3rd ave. they have impeccably fresh, grilled fish and other competently prepared greek offerings -- but do go early, since it tends to get very crowded at dinner time. they sell fish by the pound and it comes to you grilled with side dishes and a complimentary dessert. most of the time, dinner w/o wine or tip, runs me around $25 to $30.

          unfortunately i don't have much to suggest by way of breakfast. friache on e. 48th St between 5th and Madison has inexpensive omelettes and the like (as do many deli-type places you'll walk by around there). i know there are a few cosi locations in the vicinity and though it's a chain, it's not as horrible as some other chains. there is also a choux factory over on 1st ave in the 40s, if you like your breakfast sweet.

          i'll try to post more as i think of them or discover them. i do hope you enjoy your visit!

          495 3rd Avenue, New York, NY 10016

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          1. re: cimui

            chowhound links:

            Smorgas Chef
            924 2nd Avenue, New York, NY 10022

            Choux Factory
            865 1st Ave, New York, NY 10017

            Soba Totto
            211 E 43rd St, New York, NY 10017

          2. Pershing Square for Breakfast - For sure

            1. For breakfast in the vicinity, I can think of two places. One is Comfort Diner on 45th just past 3rd Ave. They offer quality American diner fare for just a little more than the typical NY diner. I think you can get away just below your $12 budget for breakfast. Also, there's a takeout spot called Dishes on 45th just west of Madison. This is a good quality lunch spot, but they do offer some breakfast items. And they have some tables to sit and eat. But this is likely only a weekday operation, so this probably isn't an option during the weekends.

              A couple of ideas for dinner within your budget might be Virgil's BBQ on 44th near Broadway. It's not the best BBQ, but it's within your budget and near your hotel. You can also try eating during the happy hours at Morton's Steakhouse, which is on 45th just east of Madison. I don't remember the exact times, but somewhere between 5-7ish and after 9:30, the menu at the bar is half-priced. They make very good slider burgers, and for the price, it's high quality food. But it's a chain.

              Then there are Japanese places all around the area as well. You can stay within your budget at places like Katsuhama on 47th near Madison, Naniwa on 46th near 5th Ave; Donburi-ya on 45th near Lexington; Izakaya Riki on 45th near 3rd; perhaps Azusa on 44th near Madison; I'm not a big fan of the place, but Menchanko-Tei on 45th near Lexington; Hatsuhana Park in the little walkway at 45th near Lexington (where Park Ave runs on the overpass, and located next to a Subway sandwich shop) has a great "ladies set" dinner for a nominal price of around $16 (they may have raised the price recently) for a full set of courses, but only for women to order. Except for Hatsuhana, I'd avoid the sushi at these places, and stay with other menu items.

              1. For breakfast walk over to Third Ave, around 50th street for Ess-a-bagel, the best bagels in the City. Would be about a 10 minute walk.

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                1. re: ESNY

                  My fiancee adn I walked over to Ess-a-bagel this morning from the Roosevelt. The walk wasn't bad at all. We walked by a couple other bagel places on the way over there that might be really good, but Ess-a-bagel was awesome! Thanks for the recommendation.

                2. For menus/addresses, go to menupages.com. Here are some of my picks:

                  Caffe Linda