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hopegoode Jul 12, 2008 03:56 PM

Have always enjoyed the New Zealand sauvignon blancs but they have inched up to $14 a bottle in our Northeast environs. Would like suggestions around $10 or less...no Chilean wines due to allergic reaction to their sulfites. Also, we don't favor Chardonnay so that should narrow the field. Thanks, in advance, for your suggestions.

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    whiner Jul 12, 2008 04:13 PM

    Safeway in CA is running some really good sales on SB, I saw yesterday. Dunno if you have one in your area.

    In general, though, Bonny Doon Pacific Rim Dry Rielsing comes to mind as a good option for you.

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    1. re: whiner
      Ed Dibble Jul 14, 2008 01:55 PM

      Just a note. There is no longer such a thing as Bonny Doon Pacific Rim Dry Riesling. Bonny Doon sold off the label a while back. Truth be told, I haven't tried the new version of the wine, but past quality is no longer a guarantee of future performance.

      ed

    2. ChefJune Jul 12, 2008 08:16 PM

      check out the white wines from Washington State... tasty Rieslings and non-oaky chardonnays are what come first to mind, and lots to choose from in the $9 - $12 price range. great qpr

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        tmso Jul 16, 2008 07:09 AM

        I second that WA emotion. I remember there being some nice Sauvignon Blanc - Chardonnay blends, crisp, minerally and not at all buttery/oaky which is probably what you don't like in Chardonnay.

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          jpc8015 Jul 19, 2008 06:23 AM

          Chauteu Ste. Michelle makes a dry reisling that is reasonably priced and will please a crowd. I served it at my wedding.

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        Chicago Mike Jul 13, 2008 12:23 AM

        riesling

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          Pigloader Jul 13, 2008 04:07 AM

          Vinho Verde (Broadbent)
          Gruner Veltliner (Loimer "Lois", Huber "Hugo")
          South African Chenin (Man Vintners, Ken Forrester)

          Also, I feel compelled to point out that Chilean wines are not, as a rule, higher in sulfites than other wines. In fact, sulfites occur naturally in ALL wines-- they're present in the grapes themselves. Now, they are ADDED to wine on occasion as a preservative, but no more in Chile than in many many other places around the world. Check out Terra Andina, Cousino Macul, and Montes Alpha for a re-introduction to well made Chilean wine.

          1. SteveTimko Jul 13, 2008 07:00 PM

            A decent wine store might have some gruner veltliners imported by Terry Theise for about $11 a bottle. These are one liter bottles as opposed to 750 ml. Those wines can be surprising good.
            Also, look for sauvignon blanc or chenin blanc from South Africa.

            1. WineUnleashed Jul 13, 2008 09:14 PM

              Just a comment on the "no Chilean wines due to allergic reaction to their sulfites".

              Chilean wines are not the only wines to have sulfites. Almost all wine has sulfites. Your reaction is probably due to something else. It is absolutely impossible to say only Chilean whites give you a reaction.
              Sorry to be a buzzkill... ;-)

              Cheers,

              Angela

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              1. re: WineUnleashed
                Bill Hunt Jul 15, 2008 08:29 PM

                I do agree, regarding the constituant elements of the wines. However, as I have only had one Chilean (regardless of price-point), that I'd ever buy, I'd be in the OP's corner, though probably for different reasons.

                Hunt

              2. scrappydog Jul 14, 2008 02:18 PM

                Like you, we like a number of the NZ SBs that are available. We also regularly purchase Big House White at about $8.99, Folie a Duex Menage a Trois White at $8.99. ( We are located in SOCAL and these wines can generally be located at these prices or less.)

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                1. re: scrappydog
                  Ed Dibble Jul 14, 2008 04:03 PM

                  I don't want to sound like a broken record, but Big House White is another former Bonny Doon label that is no longer made by BD. Quality may well be less than it was before.

                  On a more postive note, perhaps the OP might like Pinot Grigios. Many from California and from Veneti in Italy are pretty meh - but some Italian PGs from Friuli and Trentino/Altoadige (sp?)/the dolomites are dry but flavorful.

                  I also have had some reasonably priced Argentinian Torrontes and, as others have mentioned, South African Chenin Blancs that were tasty.

                  1. re: Ed Dibble
                    Bhutani Jul 14, 2008 08:36 PM

                    I am real hot on Greek whites. They are a fantastic value and certainly worth exploring. If you are a fan of NZ sauv blancs, I would suggest checking out vinho verdes from Portugal -- great crisp acidity. You can certainly get most for under $10.

                    On another note hopegoode, I would be interested to hear your reaction with the Chilean white. As an allergist, I am well aware of sulfite reactions (not really a true allergy). What is unique about the Chilean wine that you reacted to and what was your reaction?

                    1. re: Ed Dibble
                      scrappydog Jul 15, 2008 08:21 AM

                      I completely understand that Big House White is part of the brand that Bonny Doon sold. My comment was that we like the wine - I liked it when Bonny doon produced it and I still like it and buy it now. To me, it is a good wine at the requested price point. Your opinion may differ. I have seen it as low as $7.19 locally, but it is regularly available for $8.99. If there is any change, I think the most recent vintage I have tasted (2006) has more fruit (citrus), which I am guessing may come from the amount of Muscat in the blend

                      Agree on your reccomendation for Argentine Torrontes.

                      1. re: scrappydog
                        maria lorraine Jul 16, 2008 12:21 AM

                        Torrentes is beautiful. And cheap. You can find it for $5.

                        If you're feeling flush, try the Susana Balbo.

                        And, from France,

                        Picpoul!

                        No more than $10.

                        Hopegoode,
                        Have you read the threads on good wines for under $10?

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                          waitress Jul 26, 2008 08:35 PM

                          Heck yeah Picpoul!! There are usually a handful of inexpensive wines from the Langudoec area, great suggestion!!!!!

                  2. Bill Hunt Jul 15, 2008 08:33 PM

                    In the PHX Area, Kim Crawford NZ Marlborough SB has been selling for ~ UA$11.00/ 0.75 at Costco. It is not my fav., but at that price-point should be just outside your upper-end.

                    Hunt

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                      ceekskat Jul 15, 2008 11:09 PM

                      There's a rec for Geyser Peak Sauvignon blanc by jjrzut in this thread...

                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/525419

                      BTW, I picked up the Kim Crawford SB for $10.75 or so w/ coupon last week at Costco (NorCal).

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                        kelarry Jul 16, 2008 01:09 AM

                        Try a pinot gris from Oregon or a gruner veltliner.

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                          maria lorraine Jul 16, 2008 01:12 AM

                          Know any for $10 and under you could recommend?

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                            scrappydog Jul 16, 2008 07:26 AM

                            We do not drink a lot of GV, but we have purchased Pollerhof Grüner Veltliner 2007 (Austria) a couple of times this summer. It comes in a 1 liter bottle and sells for $9.99 in SOCAL. It is a pleasant summer sipper. Nice wine for the price. 12% ABV.

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                            kelarry Jul 16, 2008 01:47 AM

                            Anton Bauer gruner "Gmork". Adelsheim pinot gris comes in half bottles. It is gorgeous, and would fit the price range if you're willing to have a half bottle.

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                              hopegoode Jul 17, 2008 08:08 PM

                              Just wanted to respond to questions regarding reaction to Chilean wine. I only get red, itchy hands when I drink wines from that area. The condition goes away upon taking an antihistamine. Could it be from the pesticides from that area? I did note a similar reaction to grapes imported from Chile.

                              Thank you all for your varied suggestions. I will be trying the bottles over time and will give you feedback!

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                                Bhutani Jul 17, 2008 08:20 PM

                                That is most certainly not a sulfite reaction. What you are reacting to who knows without actually looking at your hands during a reaction. It is unusual to get isolated hand pruritus, erythema with ingesting the wine (presumably not getting it directly on your hands). Also doubt the pesticide story as well for a number of reasons. I would love to do a blind challenge with Chilean wines vs wines from another area to see if these reactions were reproducible.

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                                  Chicago Mike Jul 19, 2008 09:19 AM

                                  At Last, a scientist on the board...

                                  Every good theory established via the hypothesis method MUST be reproducible :)

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                                    Bhutani Jul 19, 2008 11:06 AM

                                    It is amazing how many hypotheses we are able to dispel by simple blind challenges. Not only is this especially useful for drug allergy but also for food allergies as well.

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                                      hopegoode Jul 19, 2008 03:17 PM

                                      Bhutani,

                                      I have had that reaction when I unknowingly was given a glass of Chilean wine so I believe that it is not attributable to state of mind.

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                                        Bhutani Jul 19, 2008 07:33 PM

                                        I don't deny the reaction or do I suggest that it was something supratentorial. However, there are almost always confounding issues that are in play. Without taking a thorough history though, I cannot tell you what other possible confounders there were. The best way to see if it is truly Chilean wines is to conduct a blind challenge in a controlled environment.

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                                          Striver Jul 25, 2008 12:25 PM

                                          "Supratentorial" is definitely the best word I've come across today. Thanks!

                          3. waitress Jul 26, 2008 08:19 PM

                            Great Topic
                            Two favorites Tariquet Ugni Blanc Colombard blend &9.99
                            http://www.tariquet.com/es/vinos-ugni-blanc.asp

                            and Dry Creek Dry Chenin Blanc
                            http://www.drycreekvineyard.com/our_w...

                            These wines please the masses for summertime drinking. Salute.

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                            1. re: waitress
                              Chinon00 Jul 26, 2008 09:06 PM

                              I'm curently enjoying a Vinho Verde which is I'm finding perfect for the weather. Low alcohol, frizzante, crisp, light . . .

                              And if I could politely address your statement:

                              "Also, we don't favor Chardonnay"

                              I'd just like to state that "Chardonnay" is not one thing. French Chablis is lean and flintly and angular. And if that includes the style of Chard that you don't favor I'll move on.

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