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Bina Boston?

I was walking to work past the intersection of Avery and Washington streets in Downtown Crossing and noticed that a new Italian restaurant/gourmet cheese shop will be opening up this fall. Does anyone know anything about this? Their website doesn't give away too much:

http://www.binaboston.com/

Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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  1. Same owners as Lala Rokh and Bin 26.

    1. Confirmed by Zagat Buzz earlier today. Bina Osteria and Alimentari, in or near the new Ritz at 571 Washington.

        1. re: bowmore36

          Now set to open October/November, per the Herald.

        2. One of my friends lives at the Ritz and stopped in this past week and was able to chat with someone who gave her a few details;

          Bina Osteria: Italian themed, seasonal menu. Approximately 120 seats with lots of counter/bar seating. Design by the architecture firm of Office Da, same as Bin 26. Outdoor seating slated for fall of '09. Full liquor license.

          Bina Alimentari: Italian market serving prepared foods. Open in mornings for coffee, etc. Small selection of higher-end spirits and beer for take-away.

          Target opening is mid to late October.

          1. According to an Ad posted yesterday;

            "Executive Chef Brian Konefal comes to Boston from the kitchens of Eleven Madison Park and L'Atelier du Joel Robouchon." Great news.

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            1. re: FrankieSandals

              Well, it could be great news if he came from those kitchens as, say, a sous rather than a commis. Any idea what his prior roles were at those tony places?

              1. re: MC Slim JB

                I stopped into Bin 26 last night and got a little more info on Brian Konefal;

                - Masters in Italian Cuisine from the Italian Culinary Institute in Piemonte.
                - Worked at Maddonina del Pescatore in Senigallia, Italy and El Raco' d'en Freixa, Spain.
                - After back and forth from Europe to US, moved back to the states for good and worked under Chef Daniel Humm at the four-star Campton Place in San Francisco for two years.
                - Moved to NYC and worked as Sous with Chef Humm at Eleven Madison Park.
                - Early 2008 worked as the Chef Tournant at L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon at the Four Seasons Hotel New York.

                Sounds like great news for Boston.

            2. Had dinner at Lala Rokh on Friday, which was delicious by the way, and the server was saying it should be soon. She wasn't, however, comfortable giving an actual date. I'm really looking forward to the gourmet food shop.

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              1. re: Pegmeister

                I walk by everyday and it looks like they still have a ways to go.

                1. re: mats77

                  I work across the street and it doesn't look at all ready to go.

                  1. re: bassist286

                    I walked by the other night (Saturday 11/8) and it didn't look even close to opening to me.

                    1. re: Gordough

                      As of today they have signage up but I agree with Gordough that they still have a lot of work to do.

                      1. re: mats77

                        yeah, i guess things are taking longer then expected.

                        1. re: bassist286

                          Bina is open! It was unbelievable. Chef Brian Konefal has successfully created a sophisticated menu full of refined seasonal italian cuisine. It is not rustic but he does reinvent several classic traditional menu items. Bina is a breath of fresh air for a city like Boston. I live in New York and was delighted that Boston now has the same caliber restaurant to serve the Boston Foodie. Enjoy! Highlights of the meal were:
                          Lardo wrapped Lobster, Tripe and conchigli pasta with squash puree, spaghetti carbonara with Hen age and aged pecorino. Chef Konefal also hired his wife to be the pastry chef and her desserts are sophisticated, avant garde and delicious Check it out, it won't disappoint

                          1. re: Curbie

                            We tried it for the first time last night.

                            Curbie, I second everything you said. I can't stop think about and talking about the lardo wrapped lobster. It has passed Cleo's butter braised lobster as my all time favorite lobster dish.

                            We also had the cappelli stuffed with house-made ricotta (milk sourced from a local farm) with beets and greens, risotto with crispy sweetbreads, suckling pig confit. Don't miss the pig. The chef shredded it, topped it with skin, roasted it until the skin was a layer of crackling and then served it cut in a square. We had ordered a side of polenta and it really worked with the pig.

                            For dessert we had the warm gianduja chocolate truffle and the anjou pear and marcona almond tart with pear sorbet, chai tea consommé. These desserts are worth a separate stop when you are dining somewhere with ordinary desserts.

                            Service was outstanding. The pacing was right for us. After our pastas we decided to order one dish at a time and share so we could both pay complete attention to each offering.

                            We plan a return trip soon and I'm going to try the lunch menu this week.

                            We also bought honey and olive oil from the shop next door- both from our favorite wine importer, Neal Rosenthal.

              2. 2 friends and I dined last night at 8pm and was very happy with the food, decor and service. His Honor, Mayor Menino along with Lydia Shire and two others stopped in for dinner about an hour later.

                To start, the 3 of us shared the ricotta, salumi and the appetizers. The ricotta was dressed with a very light drizzle of olive oil and sprinkling of sea salt, enough to contrast the flavor and texture of the ricotta itself which was very subtle but gave you the sense that it was indeed made from fresh milk. The salumi plate consisted of proscuitto, coppa, bresaola and mortadella (not listed on the menu) with a side of pickled fennel. The coppa was by far our favorite of the individual items for its combination of flavor and meaty texture. The proscuitto and the bresaola were both good and provided contrasting flavors to the other items. I did not care for the fennel, it seemed a bit too sweet almost to really help cut through the fat of the cured meats. Finally, the polenta with parmigiano was spot on texture but we all felt that it was very one-note with the parmigiano dominating the dish, no pepperiness or anything else to contrast except for the texture of the polenta, just lots of parmigiano flavor.

                For entrees we ordered suckling pig, short ribs and gnocchi. I ordered the suckling pig dish which is presented as a pressed square of suckling pig pulled pork style with a perfect square of crisp skin on top. The meat was tender and oozed that fatty pork flavor that I'm sure many of us have come to crave. The skin was crispy and crunchy, perfectly done with just enough of a minuscule layer of fat on the underside to give it quintessential porky flavor. I did not care much for the accompanying apple chutney and 5 spice sauce though the parsnips that it came with helped cleanse the palate so you could re-immerse yourself in the pork and probably good enough to stand on their own.

                Short ribs were also well received, they had some additional flavoring which meshed with the traditional beefy/fatty/umami taste of braised short ribs.

                Finally, the gnocchi was probably the one dish that was only mediocre. The DC that ordered the dish felt that it seemed under seasoned/flavored and mentioned that they preferred the Sunday Night Gravy dish at Marliave instead. The individual components were decent but sparse except for the plentiful gnocchi - gnocchi tossed with some smaller pieces of lobster claw, julienned strips of chorizo and calamari rings (must have been braised in squid ink? as they were black but certainly did not taste burnt in any way.)

                Finally for desert, we ordered the risotto brulee and the tiramisu. The brulee was well liked, providing an interesting mix of textures not normally found in such though we all felt that the the crunchy brulee top was too sweet perhaps and not enough of the caramel flavor. Tiramisu is a deconstructed tiramisu and was decent though I found having to reconstruct the tiramisu a bit tiring. The flavors went well together and are excellent flavors but it was hard to get a bit of everything on to the spoon at once.

                For drinks, I had the Paddy Wagon which was far too sweet for me with no apparent rye taste coming through at all. Another DC had a glass of the chenin blanc that was recommended by our waiter which worked out well.

                Everything came out to $200 even with tip and tax. The service was attentive but not overbearing. The decor was intriguing, reminding me of looking up at a forest canopy. They have these large industrial floodlights that point up to the ceiling (not on during our time there) that reminded me of the legs from an AT-AT walker. To sum it up, a great meal which I think was worth my hard earned dollars in this economy, but it will be an occasional treat rather than a frequent dinner place. I am interested in trying the items on their all day menu at the bar which are much more affordable on a day to day basis.

                1. my friends and i wanted to roll around inside the carbonara bowl. it was one of the best dishes i've ever had in boston.

                  1. My wife and I tried Bina for the first time last night and it was really incredible.

                    We went for the Prix Fixe Four course menu.

                    They started us off with a complimentary Prosecco, which we really enjoyed and thought was a nice gesture since it was our first visit.

                    First course was the 3 from the sea. The Tuna Tartar was tasty and was complimented well by the tomato and spices. The Oyster (from Duxbury) was perfectly fresh. I wasn't that wowed by the lumachi, it didn't have enough flavor to stand out. This was a nice starter course that set up the other courses well.

                    My wife ordered the Carne Cuda and the sample I had of the dish was very tasty, she said it was a perfect start to the meal.

                    Secondly we both ordered the Potato Gnocchi. This was an excellent dish, one of the best I have tasted in Boston. The Calamari was crispy and delicious and they decided to put a slight twist on the dish by substituting lobster for the clams as noted on the menu, no complaints here at all. I think the Chorizo chips were a nice salty and crispy compliment as well and interesting.

                    Next we ordered the Crispy Suckling Pig and the chef really nailed this one. Perfectly crispy on the top and moist and flavorful on the inside. I love the pulled pork texture as well. It was served with Spice Crab apple sauce, apple puree and Turnips. I cannot express how much we enjoyed this dish.

                    For dessert our server gave us the option of allowing the Chef to choose our final course for us. They came out with the Tiramasu and the Moscato D' Asti Mousse. The Tiramasu was sweet but not overpower and overall delicious. The Mousee was an orange sorbet topped with a honey cream which was also really good.

                    After dinner we went over to the market next door, it seemed to have a nice selection of craft beers and wines in 3 different price ranges. The sauces and products looked interesting as well. I will definitely be spending more time exploring the market in the next few days as well.

                    Overall I think this restaurant is definitely going to make some serious waves in the Boston restaurant scene, and is exactly the type of restaurant we need to mature as a food city. It is also a very nice addition to the neighborhood (We live about a block and a half away).

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                    1. re: Matt H

                      Went here a few weeks ago.... while I understand that its a restaurant in oneo of the highest price/quality levels, I was still pretty shocked at the prices. I certainly cannot afford a ramekin sized portion of pasta for 17 dollars. A recommendation would be to serve a cheaper bar menu- I don't mean serve buffalo wings or anything, but create a good grazing type of menu to to capture the non-Ritz audience. I would guess most people would find this place to be quite unaffordable, especially right now. The small bit of pasta that I DID have, however, was delicious.

                      1. re: southiesouthend

                        I think southie raises an important issue that I think about a fair amount. While Bina is sort of objectively expensive, relative to the city, it's really not so outlandish. I would consider it to be, in terms of price point, on the top end of the middle range or on the bottom end of the top range. Obviously, the economy is hurting pretty much everybody right now, but it's all a matter of priorities. A night out at a Red Sox or Celtics game will cost you about as much as dinner at Bina or a similar place. Is that Ritzy? I feel like it's just a matter of where you choose to spend your money (of course, a lot of people can't afford tickets to sporting events in Boston these days, but you see my point).

                        From my very rudimentary understanding of the restaurant business, the profit margins are razor thin, and a place's success depends on its finding a niche. It seems like Bina's niche is meant to be the fancy, high-quality but not extravagant small restaurant in a central location. For some people that's worth spending a fair amount of cash on, for others not so much.

                        For perspective, I'm a medical student, so I really don't have a ton of spending money, but I love food and I love sports. So once in a while, I splurge on a nice dinner out or Sox tickets. To me, this is totally worth it, but I would also never begrudge one of my fellow students for not wanting to spend $25 on a nice lunch or $40 on tickets to a Bruins game because that's just not something they're into.

                        Anyway, bringing this back to Bina, maybe it is hitting the scene at just the wrong time, economically speaking, or maybe it'll start to pick up some of the people who can no longer afford the really high-end places in town as often. I'm not sure. I do feel like it will have an audience. Certainly I'm excited to get there in the near future.

                        1. re: TPistrix

                          Excellent points TPistrix. This is a time when I'm spending my money on things that are important to me. I'm voting with my dollars on what I want to survive this recession.

                          I want Bina to be there in years to come. I found the portions wonderful for sampling.

                          If large portions are important to you, go to Joe Tecce's. I won't be going to there or to any other chain or food factory at a time like this because I don't value what they do. If they don't survive they will be replaced by a clone when the economy comes back.

                          We all trade off. I want to eat at L'Espalier and Craige on Main so I don't have a car. I'd rather walk and use the T than give up dining out.

                          You couldn't pay me to go to a sporting event in the Fenway, but I want to be sure that Trattoria Toscana thrives. So I not only go there more often, but I bring friends-- or better yet, friends bring me because they've come to love and value this lovely food too.

                          I'll be meeting folks at and bringing friends to Bina. I want them to succeed so that I can enjoy tasting the food coming out of that kitchen for many years to come.

                          1. re: BostonZest

                            As I said, I did find the food to be very, very good. It is my fault for not doing more research before getting there- I must have thought it would have been a bit more like Bin 26, another Bina restaurant. I do not seek out exceptionally large portions and i dont go to chain restaurants. I was just taken very off guard by a pasta dish that had 5 pieces of pasta in a bowl for 17 dollars. I guess I will have to wait until I have more disposable income to enjoy restaurants like Bina Boston.

                          2. re: TPistrix

                            I've already become a fan of Bina. While it's certainly not inexpensive, there are plenty of pricier places in town. "Reasonable" drink prices at the bar relative to many "high end" Boston bars.

                            As to it's audience, it's on the ground floor of 1 of 2 Ritz Carlton condo towers and hotel..and several other nearby hi rises. It's also in the heart of the theater district..

                            The shop is great. I just bought a Robbiola and some proscuitto at the same price I pay in the NE..and the "pre made" items look great. If you live in the Ritz and don't feel like cooking; a nice option.

                            The restaurant in the neighborhood that I think will be most hurt is Blu..odd location in the LA Sports Club vs ground floor Bina.

                            1. re: 9lives

                              another consideration bina has made that i really appreciate is the depth of pricing on the wine list. unlike many other places in this price range for food, there are bottles under $30 on the list. it's filled with off-the-beaten path and intelligent selections.

                              honestly? the gripe about portion sizes really should be hung up. restaurant portions overall are too big. italians do not eat 8 oz of pasta at a sitting. the carbonara is one of the most maginificent and ethereal pasta dishes i've ever had in boston. a 1/2 order of that, (likely about 3-4 ounces) an order of the carne crudo, some of their great iggy's bread and the PIG BUTTER they now serve, was one of my best meals in a very long time.

                              will it replace silvertone in my rotation? at this price point, no. but i will gladly give up 2 mediocre dinners for one spectacular meal at bina.

                              1. re: hotoynoodle

                                I agree.

                                As we now have two active threads disucssing Bina, I thought I'd provide a link to the other:

                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/580955

                                  1. re: wittlejosh

                                    Thanks for the link. Although I do not normally rely on Boston Magazine for its opinions on anything, I think this writer hit the nail on the head in terms of both the quality of the food and the challenges Bina faces.

                                1. re: hotoynoodle

                                  PIG BUTTER? Um, you had me at PIG. What is this please?

                                  1. re: yumyum

                                    It is a nicely rendered -- you guessed it--lard that they serve with bread. It was accompanied by some herbs and salt and you are encouraged to mix them as you like.

                                    From the Spanish, Manteca de Cerdo-- pig's fat or pig butter, I would think.

                                    1. re: BostonZest

                                      Oh my. Reminds me of the little tub of bacon fat they put down on the table at Cafe Polonia. The bread isn't great, but mmmmm..... manteca!

                                      Thanks for the info BZ.

                                      1. re: yumyum

                                        I tried their pig ears and pig feet as well (apparently available on and off)...crispy pig ears a bit chewy as might be expected (might not be bad if sliced with some tonnato or similar aioli on the side?), pig feet turned out to be more likely baby piglet feet, not much meat or gelatin to be found (i was hoping for more of a pork shank or maybe something like the pied de cochon at Pierrot) but ok if you're the type that enjoys gnawing on chicken feet at dimsum places...tasty but challenging for sure...enjoyed their carbonara but probably lean more towards the more traditional heavier-sauce version at places like Teatro...the carbonated moscato d'Asti mousse was fun

                                        1. re: barleywino

                                          Thanks for the reminder about the pied de cochon at Pierrot -- one of my favorite dishes in the city. I need to get back in January.

                                      2. re: BostonZest

                                        it's actually rendered fat from the suckling pig mixed with a bit of very fruity extra-virgin olive oil.

                                        heaven.

                                        1. re: hotoynoodle

                                          Thank you! I didn't know about the olive oil, that will help me get friends to taste it. It is delicious.

                                          1. re: hotoynoodle

                                            Ms 9 and I split the spaghetti carbonara and the suckling pig last night..both delicious...

                                            then took our dogsled home..:)

                                      3. re: hotoynoodle

                                        Just a FYI, I'm 99% sure their bread is from Clear Flour.

                                          1. re: hotoynoodle

                                            Actually, I think I've had both there. We picked up a loaf in the shop on Saturday and it was Clear Flour but I think we've had Iggy's there too. They may use and sell both.

                                            That would make everyone right!

                              2. Had an excellent Sunday brunch there a couple weeks ago. I highly recommend the bloody marys. They are made table-side and include a selection of several vodkas, salts, and garnishes (pickled green beans, olives, etc). They were delicious. The food was also excellent. Two of us had the egg brushetta which was basically decadent scrambled eggs with cheese over a delicious baquette. My husband had lobster bisque that was amazing, and another freind had a terrific pizza.

                                I live in the neighborhood so I have also bought cheese and pre-made foods at the store. The service has been consistently helpful and courteous, and I did not find the prices outrageous. It is an EXCELLENT addition to the neighborhood and I have been raving about it to all my freinds.

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                                1. re: DowntownChick

                                  Bringing this to the top as a result of an exceptional meal last night. We had 7pm reservation and arrived to a nearly empty dining room that when we left at 845ish was less than 1/3 full. Started with glass of white for DH and sidecar for me . Perfectly made. Amuse was an espresso cup of the most fragrant dense chicken broth with a single tortellini stuffed with chicken. We ordered the 4 course prix fix and I enjoyed 1) yellowtail served with roasted tomato and dollops of essence of chicken mixed with house mayonaisse ( who woulda thought chicken and tuna and when I asked the waiter he slyly responded " My cat") 2) the carbonnara and yes it isnt huge but boy was it good and the slow cooked hen egg makes a real difference 3) quail in hay which is a wonderful play of flavors with roasted quail stuffed with foie, carrots, bread and i dunno what else but it was delcious . It was served with a good size slab of seared foie gras and some brussel sprouts 4) the chocolate truffle which I would buy ( and eat) buy the vat. DH had tuna and chicken, gnocci , blue cod and the almond and pear desert. We matched with an Italian merlot. The service was terrifc with no missteps or overbearing hovering. It was really an explosion of flavors and at 67 pp I didnt feel at all gouged and I cant wait to return. Bravo Bina

                                  1. re: capeanne

                                    Your review is spot on. Bina is one of our favorite new restaurants.

                                    1. re: cockscomb

                                      The lemony gnocchi with clams, squid, and crispy chorizo chips is one of my favorite dishes in the city right now.

                                2. Had the $25 lunch of 3 courses - incredible. The parsnip soup was very velvety, fragrant, well-balanced (I really tried not to lick my bowl). The gnocchi with butternut squash was very, very rich (were they exclusively butter and cream!?) And the trio of gelati at the end was an excellent finish. I thought the meal was a great value given the plates and tastes and will definitely go again. A new fav.

                                    1. I heard there's a review in the impoper but I can't find it on line. has anyone seen it, or have a link to it?

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                                      1. re: skylark938

                                        The review in the most recent Improper issue had very good things to say. Scout them out....the food and ambiance are pretty cool. Bina is a favorite.......

                                        1. re: skylark938

                                          Actually the review in the Improper Bostonian is over-all favorable but explicitly calls out Bina for small portions. It is entitled “More, Please” and contains:

                                          “The undersized antipasti … I’m not an advocate for the super-sized portions that have fueled the country’s obesity, but somewhere there’s a happy medium.”

                                          And summarizes:

                                          “The enthusiasm radiated by Babak in his multifaceted role as host, sommelier, and gastronomic evangelist is almost contagious. By building on Bina’s strengths and increasing some of it portions, this restaurant can gain the traction that will make it a keeper.”

                                          Nothing wrong with holding restaurants accountable for value even at the high end.

                                          My lovely DC and I are going to check out the Tuesday 5:15-6:15 $15 special thing this evening.

                                          1. re: Carty

                                            I think the tiny-portion thing, which has appeared in multiple of the professional reviews, is overstated. Many dishes are incredibly rich. I think the average eater would be hard pressed to get through the bread with pig butter, an antipasto, half-order of pasta for the primo, and a meat-based secondo, especially if you share a contorno or two.

                                            1. re: MC Slim JB

                                              I went to Bina on the Friday before Valentines Day, lucky draw to get that night off. The portion sizes were great. And in talking to the staff was told that this had been a point of contention and they had been increased due to people mentioning they were small. That pig butter was amazing by the way. And the risotto with sweetbreads, perfectly cooked. Carbonara was plentiful and filling in itself as a half order. The meyer lemon gnocchi with calamari, chorizo, cockles and lobster was almost to the point of being decadent. The lobster wrapped in lardo had the salty sweet goodness that makes you want to crave it. And the suckling pig confit was a perfect size after the pasta and was tender and had just the right amount of saltiness. I think my only complaint would be the chai consomme dessert that tasted like watered down cardamon water.

                                            2. re: Carty

                                              Thanks carty. I'll grab the improper today. I'm not a big fan of over-sized portions at all. If I want globs of pasta I'll get a big bowl of bolognese at Stella or someplace like that. From everything I've read, bina's concept seems more refined and thoughtful than a lot of the big portion places I avoid. I'm going to bina soon with my partner and some friends. We're planning to order up and split most of the menu so I'll report back. Please let me know if you try anything on the main menu that we need to order.

                                              1. re: skylark938

                                                I had the 1/2 order of spaghetti carbonara as an app and the pork confit. Ms 9 had the steak tartare app and a steak/beef cheek entree. All were excellent and neither of us were hungry when we left. I'd recommend all 4 dishes but preferred what I ordered.

                                                People have spoken highly about the quail entree.

                                                1. re: 9lives

                                                  The quail is very very good (with a cool presentation). It though, is on the small side in comparison to other options. Their lobster w/ lardo is my favorite.

                                                  1. re: 9lives

                                                    Definitely second the carbonara, and the lucky 15 is an amazing deal for the amount of alcohol you get. It's a fun after work event!

                                                    1. re: marilees

                                                      I didn't realize the 15/15 thing was (essentially) just drinks. I like drinks as much as the next guy but I was hoping it was an approachable way to sample some of the food. We'll try lunch sometime.

                                            3. I am completely disgusted and appalled by the PIG BUTTER served at Bina. I dined at the restaurant about a month ago and our waiter never told us that the substance served with the bread was derived of pig. My date and I do not eat pork and when we learned weeks later that what we thought to be some exotic butter spread was actually pork we both felt revolted and sickened.

                                              Has Bina since changed their protocol to notify customers of their "special" spread before serving it?

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                                                1. re: BostonGypsy

                                                  Seems like it would make sense to be upfront with your server about a pork aversion in any restaurant not designated halal, kosher, or vegan.

                                                  1. re: MC Slim JB

                                                    Agree. If I had a food allergy or there was something I was opposed to eating, I would tell my server upfront and inform them of that. Pork or peanuts or whatever can be in lots of dishes as an ingredient and they may not "notify" diners.

                                                    Severs are not mind readers and if someone can't or doesn't want to eat something, they bear the responsibility to inform the staff. My guess is that if you had, they'd have brought you butter or olive oil or some other non pork dish.

                                                    1. re: MC Slim JB

                                                      It also seems reasonable to assume that bread and spread will not contain meat products.

                                                      Not that I have eaten at Bina yet or wouldn't like to try said pig butter.

                                                      1. re: nickls

                                                        No reason to assume that. I've been to places that serve chicken liver mousse with the bread. That is a bit more obvious than pig butter. I was thrilled to have lard with crispy bits in it at Cafe Polonia.

                                                        I think we should start a campaign for more pig butter!!

                                                    2. re: BostonGypsy

                                                      Was the waiter silent or did he say it was 'pig butter"?

                                                      1. re: BostonGypsy

                                                        The server told us as it was being sat down in front of us. I asked for olive oil as well.

                                                        1. re: alwayscooking

                                                          We eat at Bina often and always hear the waiters indicate that it is pig butter. To your point if one prefers olive oil or butter, just ask. Personally, I think that the pig butter is pretty amazing and could just chow down on that and their bread (a cardiac surgeon's dream)

                                                          1. re: stradacouple

                                                            Sometimes it's a real and true bummer being vegetarian.