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gueuze or geuze belgian beer in SF?

i read about this type of wild yeast belgian beer years before, but had never seen it. i'm no beer expert, but i believe that it is a wild fermented lambic beer that is tart and bright. then a few years ago i had an unexpected layover in amsterdam and found a bar that specialized in belgian beer. can't remember the name of it.

the bartender eased me through various beers, and then i noticed a gueuze or geuze (sp?) on the menu, and asked for it. she raised an eyebrow and said, "most americans don't like it." to which i said, rather boldly, "i'm not like most americans." well thankfully i was right to boast!..it was delicious. like slightly sour champagne, but fresh and definitely a...beer.

trouble is that i think she is right, in terms of it being on the market. i just looked at la trappe's beer menu and didn't notice one. i've come across one of these beers maybe three times in san francisco since my layover in amsterdam over four years ago. this type of beer seems particularly suited to summer (such as it is here), and i'd love to drink some more now.

anyone? i'm thirsty.

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  1. oh, i just saw that the toronado has two. i don't really like the toronado, though. i'll keep looking. any other suggestions still appreciatedl

    1. The Monk's Kettle has a few but I would recommend going to City Beer or Healthy Spirits
      first ... unless you very specifically are looking for a restaurant/bar setting.

      Note: you can drink at CB. I am not 100% sure if you can consume alcohol at HS ...
      they have some tables and chairs, but that might be for food only.

      Note also: some of these may only come in large [~750ml] sizes.

      BevMo may have some of these cheeper but it sounds like you might be better off
      discussing what you are looking for with the beer nurds at CB and HS.

      Does La Trappe have a beer list online?
      It seems a little "oude" they wouldnt have anything in the gueuze family.

      It would be somewhat humorous if Alembic in the Haight had nothing of this
      kind, but I was there for cocktails and dont remember specifically if they
      had any Geuze. Our bartender did say "flavored italian beers were the
      new thing" so i know they have an interest in european beers.

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      1. re: psb

        er, for some reason an edit i made to my above post
        didnt make it in, so here it comes again:

        Anybody know of an SF/Berkeley bar/resto/store with
        Rodenbach Grand Cru?

        [i understand the Rodenbach people are making some changes
        w.r.t. to their import business, so that may affect Rodenbach USA
        availability for a while. But apparently there is a Rodenbach clone?]

        ok tnx.

        1. re: psb

          Monk's Kettle lists Rodenbach Grand Cru on their Web bottle list, though that might be out of date. I had some there in April.

          The Trappist's bottle list describes Van Steenberge's Monk’s Café Flemish Sour Red Ale as "in the style of Rodenbach Grand Cru."

          1. re: Robert Lauriston

            Since moving to the Left Coast, I've had a devil of a time locating Rodenbach, one of my all-time favorite beers. When I lived in LA, the only place I could find it was in a sandwich shop in the San Gabriel Valley, that for some reason maintained a breathtaking assortment of beers, including my beloved Rodenbach. It's been scarce on the ground up here as well, though relatively recently, I've located a source near my home - Star Grocery on Claremont has had both the regular and Grand Cru bottlings in stock, so my Flemish sour ale jones has been satisfied once again.

            1. re: Spatlese

              Here's a lead you might want tocheck out:

              http://beeradvocate.com/forum/read/12...

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              Healthy Spirits
              2299 15th St, San Francisco, CA 94114

        2. I don't know which menu you looked at, but the currently posted menu has Oude Beersel (an "old" gueuze) on tap. I haven't tried it (so many beers, so little time) though I've had bottled gueuze in the past.

          http://www.latrappecafe.com/pdfs/beer...

          What SF Needs is a website like New York's beermenus.com:

          http://www.beermenus.com/search?q=gueuze

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          1. The Trappist in Oakland has several, plus lots of other lambics. Three blocks from 12th St BART.

            Last time I was in Luka's Taproom they had Rodenbach sour Flemish ale on tap. Not the same thing but at the same far end of the beer spectrum.

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            Luka's Taproom
            2221 Broadway, Oakland, CA 94612

            City Beer Store
            1168 Folsom St, San Francisco, CA 94103

            The Trappist
            460 8th Street, Oakland, CA

            La Trappe
            800 Greenwich St, San Francisco, CA 94133

            The Monk's Kettle
            3141 16th St, San Francisco, CA 94103

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            1. re: Robert Lauriston

              The Trappist doesn't show any on their published beer list, save for a Framboise (a close relative, but the only fruit beers that really tastes like a gueuze to me arefrom LIndemanns). I can't imagine a bar carrying "several" gueuzes.

              http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhc...

              Parenthetically, that's an interesting use of Google docs. It makes it easy for a non-geek to udate an on-line list.

              1. re: Xiao Yang

                That's the on-tap list. There are currently 16 entries in the Lambic & Gueuze section of the bottle list, including the following gueuzes:

                Cantillon Classic Gueuze
                Cantillon Rose' de Gambrinus
                Drie Fonteinen Oude Geuze
                Drie Fonteinen Doesjel Old Lambic
                Drie Fonteinen
                Girardin 1882 Black Label
                Oud Beersel Oud Geuze

                1. re: Robert Lauriston

                  My mistake. I mistook the "past brews" section for their bottled list. Rose de Gambrinus, incidentally is a fruited lambic, not a straight gueuze.

            2. Great Scott, man - you drink bottled beer, haulin' A from out of state?

              For a variety of excellent, fresh, cask conditioned Belgians, motor to this brewpub:

              Russian River Brewing Co
              725 4th Street
              Santa Rosa, CA, 95404
              707.545.BEER
              Sun. through Thurs. from 11 a.m. to 12 a.m.
              Fri. and Sat. from 11 a.m. to 1 a.m.
              HAPPY HOUR MONDAY – FRIDAY 4-6 AND ALL DAY SUNDAY

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              1. re: Waterboy

                Per their Web site, they don't have any lambics on tap right now. If they haven't run out they have the Beatification, which is RRB's attempt at a gueuze-style beer, in bottle:

                http://russianriverbrewing.com/pages/...

                In bottle, the Trappist has Beatification, Temptation (blonde), and Supplication (brown), plus a keg of Damnation (strong golden) coming soon.