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I didn't realize until today, while reading thru a CHOW/Manners thread about dining out with kids, that posters are given a greater latitude in CHOW. Strong comments, off topic rants and louder discourse seems to be completely acceptable with no report/reply button in sight.

I wonder why CHOW topics are moderated differently than Chowhound and why potentially insulting to down right rude comments that prevail in CHOW wind up as topics in Chowhound threads like this. Especially when many of the same 'hounds post in both community areas. Curious.

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  1. Trying to get more CHOW participants perhaps?

    1. You mean Chow/stories/table manners/topic. I had trouble finding what you were referring to at first. As a story, I think you can rant all you want and some have thrown stones (and boulders), at the writer, among other people.
      Yes, I think it is an attempt to find a wider audience, beyond discussing food, and to make more bucks from advertisers.
      I wish Chow would not try to be all things to all people. These forums will attract ranting imbeciles (worse than me), and their presence will seep onto the food boards (and make life harder for the moderators).
      As I see it they are attracting people who just want to BS about anything and giving them a free-wheeling venue to do their ranting on. People are also incited by the topic and how it is presented by the author (who, I presume, is on the CH staff).

      I'm not sure what good discussions about wild children in a restaurant or how to outwit an unwelcome employee is going to make the world a better place. It is just venting! That's a technical term...
      Please give me back my screen space (ads are one-third of the diminished viewable space) and stop this insanity of ruining this site for the almighty dollar. Couldn't you split off Chowhound so caring people could talk about food?

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      1. re: Scargod

        HillJ, what board are you referring to? Less moderation than here? Realllllly?

        1. re: dolores

          Ok. I'm going to try again. I don't know if it's because of all the tech glitches my post didn't go through or the mods are deleting my posts.

          I don't read Chow so I'm not sure exactly what HillJ is referring to. But if you read these comments on this link, you'll find that they're pretty moronic, that this stuff would have never gotten by the mods on Chowhound.

          http://www.chow.com/recipes/11622

          1. re: Miss Needle

            Ah, gotcha, Miss Needle, I guess HillJ meant the comments on the recipes. I thought HillJ meant a board.

            1. re: dolores

              I don't think Chow is just about the recipes. It comprises of recipes, obsessives, nagging questions, table manners, etc. I'm assuming that people make comments on those things as well. But as I don't read them, not sure exactly what she is talking about. But I remembered those idiots on the Chow recipe contests.

              1. re: dolores

                I think HillJ was referring to various CHOW stories/columns etc. like the Table Manners one:

                http://www.chow.com/stories/71/category

                If you click on "Stories" or "Blogs" above - you'll see a lot content on the site other than the boards.

                http://www.chow.com/stories

              2. re: Miss Needle

                Wow. That is some link. That is some recipe. Those are some comments... I'm doing my best not to get all cheese-rindy again.

                You are completely right, these comments would have been completely moderated on Chowhound. Suddenly feeling all warm and fuzzy towards the mods...

                This whole Chow/Chowhound thing feels very Jeckyl and Hyde to me!

          2. Thanks all, I didn't realize until today you provided such helpful replies to this thread. I wish My CHOW kept current threads on the 1st page!

            Originally, I was referring to the Table Manners section of CHOW and the lack of post moderation as MMRuth indicated but frankly most of posts following CHOW Stories appear to be moderated with a different oven "temp." :)

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            1. re: HillJ

              There are these two young fish swimming along, and they happen to meet an older fish swimming the other way who nods at them and says, "Morning, boys, how's the water?" And the two young fish swim on for a bit, and then eventually one of them looks over at the other and goes, "What the hell is water?"

              1. re: FrankieSandals

                ...and then a larger fish comes by and eats the two young fish for lunch ;0)

            2. The commenting features on CHOW stories are a lot less advanced than the Chowhound boards, as are the moderation tools. We do try to keep those discussions honest, friendly, and on topic, as well, but unfortunately it's more difficult to stay on top of. If you spot comments that are a problem, please send me a heads up at moderators@chowhound.com

              -- Jacquilynne, Community Manager for Chowhound

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              1. re: Jacquilynne

                I am lost... is chow the site, and chowhound the talk board?

                Because I would say 25% of my postings are removed. I am not that much of a jackass.

                10% maybe jackass. not 25%

                1. re: pavlov

                  CHOW is the editorial portion of the site, and Chowhound is the discussion forum portion of the site.

                  We sent you an email a few months ago explaining why your posts on your business were being deleted, if you need another copy, email us at moderators@chowhound.com and we'll send it again.

                  The only other post from you that we've removed was a post that was off topic for the board to which it was posted. The San Francisco board's geographical parameters are explained in this post http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/469166 and we do aim to keep posts on the San Francisco board focused on local chow.

              2. I must be in the minority, but I like the Chow threads such as Table Manners just as much as I like the Chowhound threads. Yes, it's a bit Jekyll and Hydeish, but I feel that the Chowhound portion is sometimes a bit too sanitzed in terms of moderation. Then I get to the Chow portion, and it's like a breath of fresh (or fetid, depending on your viewpoint) air.

                I have not seen any crossover between the two in terms of the quality of the comments. It seems that the moderating is more active on the Chowhound threads so it would not be a concern for me that one would "tarnish" the other, so to speak.

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                1. re: gloriousfood

                  Since writing this OP, I frequent CHOW much more often and find that the topics within CHOW's various headings are often "fed" by Chowhound threads and vice versa. Moderation of CHOW may vary over Chowhound but the content/topics appear to be very similar.

                  1. re: HillJ

                    Yes, I've noticed that too, esp. as it pertains to the Table Manners column (which several posters to that column have also pointed out).

                2. I was just coming in to complain that some Chowhound threads are being overly moderated. People going off topic a bit should be no issue and it's natural forum behavior. For example, in the Boston board if someone asks about where to get a great standing rib roast, it might be natural for someone to follow up with "so, how do you like to cook it?" At this point, invariably, some Chow moderator will jump in with "noooo! Don't post a recipe here!"

                  Moderating flames, rants, etc, is one thing, but stopping the natural conversational flow in order to try to enforce the idea of what a board should be is counter-productive. It makes the mods feel like Big Brother and ruins the community that these boards can naturally create. Back off, mods!

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                  1. re: davis_sq_pro

                    The moderators have no problem with anyone of us posting a recipe on the Home Cooking board and then putting up a link on the local Boston (or wherever) board back to that recipe in the midst of the discussion.

                    I like to know that, when I go to look for recipes, I can be certain where to find them (in Home Cooking).

                  2. ther should be report buttons on those comments in chow.