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imhungryletseat Jul 1, 2008 06:44 PM

I will be in Cincinnati in a couple of weeks to catch a couple of games with my sons and I am looking for places to eat, chowhound style. From looking at previous posts, I came up with the following places
for burgers Zips or Quatmans
Skyline Chili
Graeters or Putz's for ice cream
Hofbrau Haus

Please feel free to make any up to date recommendations.

I would also like any recommendations on what to eat/drink at the GABP and the name/location of any stores that have a quality selection of midwest beers.
thanks

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    johnbycz Jul 2, 2008 10:47 AM

    Zips is waaaaaaaaay overrated. In my neighborhood is Anderson Township Pub; I like their burgers, but I don't think they're worth a side trip.

    Skyline is good, but Camp Washington Chili is chowhoundier. Another great chowhound destination is Tucker's in Over-the-Rhine, for breakfast. You'll see things here about the neighborhood, but it's fine at breakfast-time.

    Hofbrau Haus has good beer, but the food isn't special.

    The place to buy beer is the Party Source in Bellevue, Ky., which is about a mile from the ballpark, just over the river. You should also use the opportunity to stock up on good Kentucky bourbons. Another place for beer is Jungle Jim's, which is not close to the ballpark, but worth the trip.

    An alternative for ice cream -- not far from the Party Source in Bellevue is Schneider's, for ice-balls-and-ice-cream. It's a sno cone on top of a scoop of ice cream. Sounds weird but it's all homemade and very good, especially on a hot day. I get grape syrup and vanilla ice cream.

    The ballpark food isn't special. You can get Skyline Chili coneys there. The Larosa's pizza is as good as ballpark pizza gets, which means it's all right. I usually get a Big Red Smoky or a bratwurst. There is a Skyline Chili three blocks from the ballpark, at Fourth and Sycamore. The best selection of beers is in the Machine Room, a restaurant in the left field corner. You can buy the beers there and take them into the ballpark.

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    1. re: johnbycz
      jmckee Jul 2, 2008 10:54 AM

      I agree on Zip's. I'm on record elsewhere as noting that if it weren't cheek-by-jowl next to Hyde Park, it wouldn't be as well regarded.

      I've not tried Anderson Twp Pub; I'll have to give it a go.

      As for the ballpark: Don't forget the Goetta items, dogs and burgers made from our local bizarre scrapple derivative.

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        ninewinx Jul 6, 2009 05:51 PM

        Also agree about Zip's. Try Terry's Turf Club.

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      Emm Jul 3, 2008 06:17 AM

      No contest between Zip's and Quatman's. Go to Quatman's. Zip's serves tiny, thin, mediocre little burgers which are overpriced. Eating there apparently is a status thing for some of the area's more misguided yuppies.

      While you're at Quatman's, pick up some of their chicken salad to go. They'll give you a sample taste. Empress Chili in Hartwell is my favorite of the Cincinnati-style chili chains (although I don't think they have that many locations left). Graeter's is traditional style ice cream; Putz's serves soft-serve. It's all good. Putz's has a decent chili dog, too. Price Hill Chili is also worth a try, for the large double-decker sandwiches and the Greek sausage and feta cheese pasta.

      1. Davwud Jul 3, 2008 06:32 AM

        Make sure you try goeta. It's great.

        You could even go into a grocery store and buy a couple tubes and take it home with you

        DT

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          mikjackson77 Jul 3, 2008 10:54 AM

          You're definitely working from a good list there. I heartily recommend you try Skyline Chili and Graeter's ice cream for a true Cincinnati experience! Have a great time!

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            AMFM Jul 3, 2008 06:44 PM

            i think aglamesis is the best ice cream in cincy.

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            RMC Jul 6, 2008 08:44 AM

            One place you, and your sons, might enjoy is the Montgomery Inn (Boathouse) which is locaated along the banks of the Ohio River, just on the easten side of downtown. I think it must only be a half a mile east of the ballpark. The Mongomery Inn is an institution in the Cincinnati area (I have travelled throughout the country on business and I have never been to a place quite like it). The food is not bad (Barbecue), but there are lots of decent BBQ places, but the experience, as they say, is priceless. This is a very large restaurant. It is part of a small chain and the original is about 17 miles north of downtown in Montgpomery, OH, but this place is very close to the stadium, and if you are an out of towner, here for a baseball game, you will not be disappointed. I could go on and on abut the details about the place, but let just say it is a "sports place" like no other. The Montgomery Inn is a casual, but nice place. It is not a "sports bar" per se. If I was in town to see a Reds or a Bengals game, this is defintily one place I would not want to miss. Every out of town guest I have ever taken there has raved about the expereince. Enjoy.

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              jmckee Jul 7, 2008 06:28 AM

              I respectfully disagree. Anybody who likes barbecue should steer clear of any Montgomery Inn location. Bad ribs, boiled, and served with a sauce so sweet it turns your stomach.

              There are a number of real barbecue places in town, notably BBQ Revue on Madison and Jim Dandy's in Sharonville. The Montgomery Inn treats you like livestock -- head 'em in, herd 'em out.

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                johnbycz Jul 7, 2008 08:15 AM

                Montgomery Inn ribs are not boiled. I'll agree they're not barbecue because they're not smoked, but that doesn't make them bad. That's like saying Cincinnati chili is bad because it's not really chili. I've taken lots of out-of-towners to Montgomery Inn and they've all enjoyed it.

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                  TJ Jackson Jul 7, 2008 08:56 AM

                  I've spoken to the cooks - the ribs are boiled offsite, transported to the restaurant, then finished on the grill.

                  I too would not call them bbq for the same reason - no smoking - and I did like them very much in my youth, but I have not had a good meal there in 3 visits (for business lunches or dinners, always ordering off the menu as any other customer) in the past couple of years

                  I don't know if I'd call boiled ribs "cincinnati style" as I am unsure anyone else locally does ribs that way with any volume - I'd call the style specific to Montgomery Inn. It's their own style, really. That said, I don't care much for that style :-)

                  Walt's in Covington must do some odd thing as well because they seem to use high heat, another "bbq" no-no

                  1. re: johnbycz
                    jmckee Jul 7, 2008 09:29 AM

                    I'd concur with TJ; my brother in law worked at one of their branches for a while, and that's where my horror at learning of the boiling was created.

                    And the Cincinnati chili comparison doesn't really resonate with me. Cincinnati chili, while oddly spiced, is indeed spiced and includes several elements of other regions' standard chilis and is cooked the same way, essentially. With the Montgomery Inn, we're talking the essential element of good barbecue ribs -- smoke -- being the missing element. Plus really lousy sauce.

                    I know there are differing tastes. And I yield to no one in my love of parochial Cincinnati specialties, including Graeter's, Busken, LaRosa's, Frisch's, goetta, and mock turtle soup. But I have never understood the popularity of the Montgomery Inn and find it to be possibly the most overrated restaurant I've ever patronized.

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                      johnbycz Jul 7, 2008 11:17 AM

                      All I can say is this -- the subject of boiled ribs came up once before, so I emailed Montgomery Inn. Evan Andrews, who runs the business, wrote back and said they are not boiled. If he misled me, then somebody from the Inn should get on here and set the record straight.

                      But as they say, 50 million Elvis fans can't be wrong. I'll never say they're the best ribs in the world, but they're unique and lots of people like them.

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                        jmckee Jul 7, 2008 02:57 PM

                        I interviewed Evan years ago back when I was a business reporter. Take anything he says with a block of salt. He's (or was) The Late Ted's son-in-law, and will do nothing to kill the gravy train.

                        And as for 50 million Elvis fans, per se, to paraphrase a saying: What's good isn't always popular; what's popular isn't always good.

                        McDonald's is, I think, proof of that point. "Billions and billions served" doesn't equal a good burger.

                        The Inn is a masterpiece of marketing over substance.

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                          Emm Jul 7, 2008 04:51 PM

                          One trip to the Montgomery Inn was enough for me. The food was mediocre and the service was rushed and perfunctory. As for favorably impressed out-of-town visitors, among my extended family and friends a certain level of "courtesy" prevails whereby if I take them out to eat, they'll probably say they enjoy anything short of absolutely sickening food. This is possibly not a Good Thing, but is still a reality of the "don't bite the hand that (literally) feeds you" mentality. MI is one of the last places in the area I'd take guests. And in my experience, if people really love barbecue they don't mind going to a down-home joint like Pit to Plate, Barbecue Revue, or Big Art's. So I wouldn't be embarrassed to take them to any of those places. I just don't even get MI's reason for existence at all.

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                            jmckee Jul 8, 2008 07:55 AM

                            Whoa! Where / what is Big Art's? If you mention it in the same breath as the others it must be worth mentioning!

                            My favorite Inn story: A friend was there for his company's Christmas luncheon, spaded in shoulder to shoulder like sardines. My friend refused his dessert; he's diabetic. And the waiter argued with him for five minutes that he HAD to take it, that it CAME with the meal, that it was WONDERFUL.

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                              Emm Jul 8, 2008 10:56 AM

                              Big Art's is waaay out in Colerain Township distressingly near Mt. Rumpke <g>. 2796 Struble Rd., to be exact. It's a good idea to phone for their hours before making a trip. (I think they're closed for vacation right now, too.) Also a good idea to get there early for dinner since the place fills up pretty fast. And here's the funniest thing: usually I don't even order the barbecue--which is excellent--because they serve a chicken breast concoction called Chicken Colerain (over rice, smothered in chopped tomato, onion and mushroom) that I'm completely addicted to. Big Art knows his way around a kitchen, that's for sure.

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                                TJ Jackson Jul 13, 2008 10:39 AM

                                Jack - I guessed you missed this RF thread which included visit to Big Art's - photo's included (I had a Insider membership back then and could post photos)

                                http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/topic....

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                                  imhungryletseat Jul 21, 2008 04:05 PM

                                  I just returned from my Cincinnati trip; thanks to all of you who offered ideas/advice. For Chili, we tried Skyline and Price Hill. Of the two, we liked the Price Hill better as it was meatier. It seemed like both Chilis used the same type of spices (possibly including nutmeg and/or cinimin?) and while it was nowhere near as thick as the 'Texas style' Chili that we are used too, it was enjoyable in its' own way. It was more like a sauce for spagetti with meat sauce so serving it with spagetti makes sense.
                                  We also tried the pasta with the Greek sausage, peppers, onions, and feta and we all though it was might tasty. Also tasty at Price Hill was the Greek fries and the appetizer combo; both of these came out hot and not the least bit greasy.
                                  We did go to the Hofbrau house for lunch. The appetizer combo there also came out hot and not greasy. This is something that should not have to be mentioned but I am finding it less and less (either dirty oil or fried food not coming out hot) on Long Island. We also had different sandwiches which everyone enjoyed and I enjoyed the various beers they had available, with the highest marks going to their Dunkel and the Pilsner (the July seasonal).
                                  FYI..the beer stand john bycz mentioned in his post at GAPB is no longer a beer stand, but a 'Team Store' john was right on with his assessment of 'the party source' It was like the FAO Schwartz for people throwing a party. I limited myself to two mixed cases of beer and two bottles of bourbon and I had to pull myself out of there; it's probably better that there isn't a store like that by me!
                                  As for the things I missed, I did not see goetta at the game as someone mentioned and since we are not morning people, we did not get the chance for some goetta and eggs; there's always next time. As for hamburgers, we decided to skip them because of differing opinions where we heard and read good and bad things about both. The Montgomery inn was not considered because, to put my two cents in, even though I don't come from a hotbed of BBQ, it isn't BBQ unless there is smoke and a pink ring.
                                  The one thing about ice cream in Cinn that caused a problem was that the ice cream places closed before we got to them after the games on Friday and Sat so we ended up getting UDF ice cream which, while not 'premium', was very good in its own right.
                                  Thanks again!

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                                    Emm Jul 22, 2008 04:17 AM

                                    Thanks for the follow-up! Several places around town serve some version of Greek spaghetti and it's easy to duplicate at home. I top mine with a mixture of butter and olive oil, and add some combination of sausage, chopped tomato, onion, kalamata olives, feta and grated Parmesan.

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                                      TJ Jackson Jul 23, 2008 07:02 PM

                                      Emm's already said it, but yeah, thanks for the trip report. So many folks ask for recommendations, get them, and you never hear from them again. The travelers payoff from the advice provided is typically some damn good meals, while the advisor's payoff, frankly, is reading the reports (if any) from the traveller. So - thanks for the payoff ! :-) Mucho appreciato :-)

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                                        johnbycz Jul 23, 2008 07:42 PM

                                        Thanks for the follow-up. Glad you enjoyed yourself. As for GABP, the Machine Room isn't a stand but a full bar and restaurant, and it's still there. You needed to go down a couple of flights of stairs from the Team Store to get there. The ballpark can't seem to get beer right. Most of the stands sell two kinds of light beer, and the selection is up and down, even depending on the night you go. Next time ....

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                                miscellaneous Jan 24, 2009 12:30 PM

                                Gentlemen, let me confirm that Montgomery Inn ribs are indeed first boiled at their commissary and then transported to the restaurants and grilled off and then smothered (probably submerged) in the disgusting 'sugar ketchup' they call bbq sauce, prior to serving.

                                Hounds, steer clear of Montgomery Inn or risk utter dissapointment. As described above, it is more like a food factory than a restaurant. They give new meaning to the phrase 'turn and burn' as they herd diners through the place like cattle. The place is fine tuned for profit, hence the need to first boil the ribs so that they don't hinder what Evan would tell you is an 11 million dollar a year operation(referring to the boat house). It is the highest grossing restaurant in the state of Ohio but don't be fooled by any of this. The food a step above Frisch's Bigboy. When I hear that first time visitors with an interest in the culinary scene to Cincinnati are going to Montgomery Inn for dinner, I cringe with embarrassment, knowing they will forever associate the queen city with red-neck sports slop.

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                          ninewinx Jul 6, 2009 05:53 PM

                          Can't stand their greasy, sloppy goo.

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                          BigBlue120 Jul 24, 2008 01:57 PM

                          Great thread. We're heading out tomorrow for the weekend. We're probably only getting 1 meal out (the rest with our hosts), and was considering Mongomery Inn... no longer considering it.

                          Heard nice things about the Precinct. Thoughts?

                          A Sunday afternoon trip to the Party Source is already planned. I'm on some cigar boards too and planning to meet some fellas over there. We're driving, so I've got room to stock up on some scotch and rum. Suggestions?

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                            johnbycz Jul 24, 2008 08:49 PM

                            The Precinct remains a decent meal, but it doesn't seem to blow people away like it used to. Cincinnati Magazine just ran it's list of the 12 best places in town to get a steak, but I haven't read it so I can't tell you who they like. Probably the Precinct, Ruby's and Carlo & Johnny (all Jeff Ruby establishments) are on the list. There's also a Morton's downtown.

                            Do you want recommendations on scotch and rum? I used to be a scotch drinker until I realized the best bourbon in the world is made three or four counties away, so I switched.

                            And not to start the discussion over again, but I like Montgomery Inn, and everyone I've taken there has liked it too.

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                              AMFM Jul 25, 2008 07:28 AM

                              it's just a style thing. i don't like it - it's too sweet for me but tons of people do like it and it's quite famous. locals have it shipped when they leave. we did have montgomery inn ribs at my rehearsal dinner for the super casual feel my husband wanted and they were fine (it was quite fun!). it's just that i like smokier barbecue - and now live in the south where good barbecue is plentiful. don't feel you have to write it off entirely.

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                                johnbycz Jul 25, 2008 10:02 AM

                                For the record, 1.) I love barbecue (just got back from Tennessee and had some down there), and I know full well the Inn is not barbecue but I like it anyway, and 2.) I always get the sauce on the side, and I recommend other do so. Love the chips, love the view at the Boathouse. I notice, as I type this, there's a Montgomery Inn Ribs link on the right side of the screen. It says "Ribs, Barbecue Sauce". I guess you can call anything "Barbecue Sauce," but they don't refer to their ribs that way.

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                                  AMFM Jul 25, 2008 10:46 AM

                                  hmmmm. i was kind of saying to the poster not to write off montgomery inn because lots of people like it (one of which was you) even though it seemed he'd given up on it being any good because of earlier bashing. i personally don't like their sauce but i don't think the stuff is terrible. so i certainly would never mean to offend someone who did. sorry if i did.
                                  i think it's a big cincy thing and may be worth a shot. that's all.
                                  fair enough to separate their ribs from barbecue also - kind of like separating cincy chili from chili. we have a LOT of local foods for a pretty small city!

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                                    TJ Jackson Jul 25, 2008 11:19 AM

                                    I understand your point, john, and I am sure it grows tiring to have this same debate in every other "where do I eat in Cincinnati" threa, but keep in mind that many of us are just trying to make sure that the reader does not mistake "ribs + bbq sauce" as "bbq ribs". I've been on both sides of the fence - loved them as a kid, not so much now, but I know legions of folks who swear by the place (as I once did as well). So I *try* to be fair. I admit I don't always succeed.

                                    In any case, the detractors have every right to state their pinion as well, just as you do :-)

                                    All that said, I think we'll continue to see this debate on MI in most Cincy threads, and we should all keep in mind that while it may be tiresome for us who live here, the folks asking the questions probably haven't read any of the dozens of such threads we've already participated - it is a fresh new topic to them. So - and I address all Cincy chowhounds (not just john, sorry if this seems like I am jumping your case, as I am not intending to), no matter whether you love or hate the place - let's try to keep it in mind that it is a fresh new topic in the mind of the person(s) asking the questions in each new thread, despite being a corpse littered battlefield for those of us answering :-)

                                    I wish we could get a FAQ set up for MI on this board - that way, we could register our opinions once and then just refer folks to the FAQ and skip the argument :-)

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                                      johnbycz Jul 25, 2008 12:13 PM

                                      TJ -- all your points are noted. This may seem like it's pointing out the obvious, but food is a matter of taste, and I push back when it seems people push a point of view that some restaurant is objectively terrible. I jumped in the thread when the Inn was labeled "bad ribs." They're not barbecue, and I've had better, but they're not bad. If the Inn were terrible, it would be out of business, and after 20 years there are still two-hour waits at Boathouse on Saturday night. No amount of marketing and advertising can convince people to wait two hours for bad food.

                                      If there's any ethos to being a chowhound, it's to be open-minded. I've seen Cincinnati chili condemned because it's not really chili and it's on spaghetti. If you're expecting a bowl of red, yeah, you'll be disappointed, but if you can get past all that, you might enjoy it. I've never defended the Inn as the best meal in town. I might go there twice a year. But I know too many people who've enjoyed a meal at the Inn to let such a blanket condemnation pass without comment.

                                      One last point: On a whole 'nuther level, a discussion about Montgomery Inn is really a discussion about what kind of city Cincinnati is. Conventional wisdom is that the Inn is an institution, but ... I won't even go there. That's a topic to be discussed over a beer, and not a Ted's Red Ale.

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                                        jmckee Jul 25, 2008 03:49 PM

                                        You are correct. They aren't bad. They're lousy. They're an embarrassment to anybody who cares about good food, either high 'n' mighty or down 'n' dirty.

                                        I really don't see your point about this being a discussion on "what kind of city Cincinnati is." The Inn is not Cincinnati, thanks be to God. The fact that the Inn has been successfully marketed doesn't say any more about Cincinnati than does the CSO, the Bengals, or the Mount Lookout Tavern. To criticize any of those does not mean you are criticizing the city itself.

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                                          Emm Jul 25, 2008 04:51 PM

                                          Point well taken, although any community does have its own set of defining characteristics. I do wish to take exception to one thing John says--that " If the Inn were terrible, it would be out of business..." because my personal experience differs. I've eaten at quite a few Cincinnati restaurants that I thought WERE terrible. Some have been around a long time, and a few which happen to come to mind right now--including MI, Zip's, Washington Platform and Arnold's--have apparently achieved a near-cult following. I don't know what would happen to these places if they were in a different sort of community. I think I can safely say that in Lexington, Ky. where I lived for many years they'd have simply been out of business in short order. This doesn't seem to be the proper place to speculate as to reasons, beyond to say that apparently expectations there were higher.

                            2. cdnexpat Dec 21, 2008 04:43 PM

                              I just went to BBQ Revue after reading all of these wonderful suggestions. I even flew in the face of my native Ohioan host's suggestions to go to Montgomery Inn (delicately, so as not to offend), and told him about Chowhounds' recommendations for BBQ Revue. He was just as pleasantly surprised as I was at BBQ Revue's quality, delicious ribs and brisket!

                              I have been craving a good smoked brisket sandwich since moving to NYC and eating a terrible, dry piece of grey shoe leather at Hollywood Diner (had to meet some friends there...). Today I fulfilled my craving. It wasn't quite the Montreal smoked meat sandwich a la Schwartz's, but it was just as good in its own way. Thick sliced, just enough fat, slowly cooked so the meat was falling apart in flakes, and perfumed throughout with just the right amount of hickory smoke and herbs. The ribs were tender and juicy on their own, and the side BBQ sauce was a tomato vinegar spiced delight. The recommended mac and cheese was the only disappointment: it was a little too mushy for my liking. My friend and I topped off the meal with an old-fashioned rootbeer and an orange crush for me. It's been years since I drank that pop! Brought back great memories.

                              The best part about the meal was the bill -- incredibly affordable. The brisket sandwich was $4.75 and the half-slab of bbq ribs was $9.75. Great reason to visit! And now that my hosts know about this place, I am sure they'll be back.

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                                JohnE O Dec 23, 2008 05:01 AM

                                The BBQ Revue and Jim Dandy's (in Sharonville) are probably the best BBQ places in Cincy. I think Jim Dandy's has a better sauce, especially the spicy sauce. Montgomery Inn is a good restauant if you steer clear of the ribs (too mushy) and sauce (too runny and sweet), but the rest of the menu items are pretty good, especially the pork chops.

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                                  dumas Dec 26, 2008 12:58 AM

                                  One more bit about the Montgomery Inn~~

                                  When we were thinking of moving from L.A. to Cincy 4 years ago, I flew out to meet my husband for his birthday (since he was on a temporary assignment here) and we looked in the media for recommendations for a very nice restaurant and The Mont. Inn Boathouse was recommended as the most 'Romantic' in the city! So we thought 'perfect'!

                                  Can you imagine our surprise when we arrived there for dinner and got the MI 'treatment' with the plastic bib and all?!? And what was going through our heads about what was considered 'romance' in Cincinnati?! I still don't understand that!?!

                                  And just to add my vote, I don't care much for the Mont. Inn's food, either, and I wish that people in Cincy would stop raving about such a mediocre establishment, or at least 'qualify' their recommendation of it (of course not call it 'romantic' for sure). It doesn't reflect well on Cincinnatians, I don't think. Although we love Cincinnati and did decide to move here in spite of our MI experience.

                                  Has anyone tried "City Barbeque" (I think it's called)? It's an 'outreach' in Hyde Park somewhere of a popular place in Columbus, and I wonder how it is.

                                  Oh, and I like UDF ice cream the best, too. (Graeters' is another institution that gets too much unqualified praise IMHO.)

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                                    cresyd Dec 31, 2008 08:29 AM

                                    Wow...I'm always surprised to hear when UDF ice cream gets any praise other than "a decent place to go if you're craving ice cream after bars close". I'm not a huge ice cream person, but I'd have to say that Graeter's usually lives up to it's reputation. Though I personally prefer Algameses (sp?) since it feels somewhat less like eating straight cream.

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                                      dumas Dec 31, 2008 10:10 AM

                                      LOL Yes, I know, seldom do you hear good things about UDF. Graeter's gets all the glory, but as out of towners, we tell people we like UDF and an amazing number of Cincinnatians 'confide' that Graeters' isn't to their taste and they think it's better too, (especially if they hail from elsewhere). They wouldn't dare admit that out in the general public and be accused of undermining a venerated Cincinnati institution, though. (Personally I think Graeters' is too fatty and thus the flavors are dulled.) UDF Homemade Peppermint Ice Cream with homemade hot fudge sauce was a big hit at our house this christmas.

                                      One more thought about local markets: Country Fresh Farm Markets (3 stores) is kind of a fun little place to buy produce, specialty foods, and some deli items. People are nice and the vegetables and fruits are nice although they don't offer many organic items. They do try to offer local growers' tomatoes, apples, corn, and other produce that may be available.

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                                        cresyd Dec 31, 2008 08:37 PM

                                        Truth be told, I'm not a huge fan of ice cream but I did love that gelato stand that was briefly opened in the Kenwood mall.

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                                          AMFM Jan 16, 2009 08:52 AM

                                          aglamesis is the best! :)
                                          graeter's for black raspberry chip but i could leave the rest.
                                          frankly i think UDF is very solid as well.

                                    2. re: dumas
                                      Niki in Dayton Dec 31, 2008 10:13 AM

                                      I haven't been to the City BBQ in Hyde Park, but the two in Dayton are both decent. They smoke their meats on premise and while it's not central Texas quality brisket, it's certainly edible. I'm not too crazy about most of their sides although the hush puppies and the greens are both pretty good. I usually get their smoked turkey. The ribs are pretty good, too. For Ohio, it's probably about as good as it gets...

                                      1. re: dumas
                                        qkalis Jan 14, 2009 04:00 AM

                                        I am a recent transplant to Cincy and I can comment on our finds for BBQ and ice cream. For BBQ we are currently working our way through the area and have found only City BBQ (Hyde Park) to satisfy our cravings, although Goodies (College Hill) would be a second. Keep in mind though that BBQ seems to be very polarizing and make an effort to try as many of the offerings as you can to find your place. This trend seems to be the same for ice cream as well and we recommend Agalmesis (Oakley) for a great sunday and unique ice cream style and also Brusters (West Chester) for pure ice cream flavor.

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                                          cmx24 Jan 15, 2009 08:46 PM

                                          There is a new restaurant opening up in West Chester called Asiatique Bistro. It's being built by this Asian fusion chef from Malaysia. The menus on the website look promising!

                                          www.asiatiquebistro.com

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                                          Asiatique Bistro
                                          West Chester, OH, West Chester, OH

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                                          miscellaneous Jan 24, 2009 01:03 PM

                                          City BBQ is a small chain out of Columbus. It's not a dive bbq joint but rather a well run and managed mini-chain in Columbus/Dayton and Cincinnati. The owners used to compete in the bbq circuit and learned their craft on the road. Their meats are smoked on premise and very tasty. I've had the chicken, ribs and pulled pork and I favor the ribs first, then the chicken and finally the pulled pork which was average. They offer 3 sauces in squeeze bottles on all of the tables, one vinegar based, one mustard based and one ketchup based and pretty sweet. You can help yourself to as many sliced pickles as you want and they have good sweet tea, they also offer bottled beer in huge ice tubs self serve. They have a corn pudding side which is my personal favorite if you want something sweet to close it out. For a fast casual concept, the price in on the high side but quality bbq and scratch made sides take time to prepare. On a scale of 1-100 I give City an 86.

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                                            dumas Jan 26, 2009 02:04 PM

                                            Yes, we liked City Barbeque when we tried it in Columbus. We were happy to find out they were putting in some Cincinnati locations. I'm glad you agree!

                                            We need some more good places with a local feel that aren't big chains (Applebees, Bob Evans, etc.) don't you think?

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