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Restaurants open on the 4th??

chemchef Jul 1, 2008 04:27 PM

Help! I'm having company from L.A. and want to take them someplace good before going on the fireworks cruise around the bay (leaves at 8:45, so early-ish dinner preferred).

East Bay (Berkeley, Oakland) preferred, or SF. I'm running out of options... already tried T-Rex, Wood Tavern, Chez Panisse, Pizzaiolo... all closed on the 4th. Money not a huge issue, though we don't want to go broke on this meal.


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  1. Robert Lauriston RE: chemchef Jul 1, 2008 07:27 PM

    Flora, Mono, Franklin Square, Yoshi's, Legendary Palace?

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    1. re: Robert Lauriston
      chemchef RE: Robert Lauriston Jul 2, 2008 08:35 AM

      Do you think that that's about it? My husband and I don't drink, so the wine bar's not too appealing. The other couple would probably rather not have Asian or Mexican food. I know that's limiting, but I hope we can find something.

      1. re: chemchef
        Robert Lauriston RE: chemchef Jul 2, 2008 08:41 AM

        Those are just some I think might be open that aren't too far from the ferry dock.

        Franklin Square is primarily a restaurant. No need to drink wine to eat there.

        1. re: Robert Lauriston
          chemchef RE: Robert Lauriston Jul 2, 2008 08:45 AM

          Actually, we will be leaving from Rockridge BART. Know of anywhere good around there that will be open?

          1. re: chemchef
            Robert Lauriston RE: chemchef Jul 2, 2008 08:50 AM

            Most restaurants are closed on the 4th. Chains and hotel restaurants are mostly open. Check opentable.com for more options.

            1. re: Robert Lauriston
              chemchef RE: Robert Lauriston Jul 2, 2008 09:20 AM

              I know. I didn't like the options on Open Table, plus I know that there are many, many restaurants that aren't listed on Open Table. That's why I'm querying Chowhound.

              1. re: chemchef
                Robert Lauriston RE: chemchef Jul 2, 2008 09:42 AM

                This topic about what's open on Christmas might help, but if your friends won't eat Korean, Indian, Chinese, or Japanese, there's not much:


            2. re: chemchef
              susancinsf RE: chemchef Jul 2, 2008 12:16 PM

              Per Open Table In SF, places that are reasonably near BART stations that are open and have space sinclude Saha, Chenery Park, Zingari, MarketBar (on the Embarcadero, so probably close to wherever your cruise is leaving from. likely to have something on the menu even a fussy eater would eat, and has gotten at least one favorable mention lately), Fringale, Coco500. Do you not like any of those choices?

              If you didn't need to be near BART, so this is probably more for the benefit of others than for you, La Ciccia is open and has space. IMO one can't do much better than that, any night of the week regardless of the occaison. (so is Cafe Troya, but that is even further out than La Ciccia.)

              East Bay options are indeed more limited, though it looks like you could go to Speiskammer in Alameda.

              With choices like those, given that Mexican and Asian are off of the table, (if they weren't Mexico DF has space and is also a short walk from Embarcadero BART) I'd say you do indeed have options. I would recognize that given that it is a holiday and you have restricting parameters that you probably won't find an ideal spot, and book one of them sooner rather than later.

              If Franklin Square is open, perhaps that means that Luka's is too? Very close to BART if it is, so worth a call to check.

              1. re: susancinsf
                chemchef RE: susancinsf Jul 2, 2008 03:58 PM

                Thanks susaninsf! I have not been to any of those places, but many of them sound great. La Ciccia is right by Muni, so I at least made a reservation there in case nothing else pans out. Please let me know if you think of any other suggestions. One person (the one who is Mexican, but does not like Mexican food) is sure to order a hamburger. Everyone else is relatively adventurous, but tend to lean away from Asian cuisines. We all love Italian (done well) and American cuisines. Hope that helps.

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                  susancinsf RE: chemchef Jul 2, 2008 04:58 PM

                  I am hoping you mean that the one who doesn't like Mexican will surely order a hamburger if you end up going for Mexican...there are no hamburgers on the menu at La Ciccia. No other American options either, and if your idea of Italian done well is Cal-Ital, not much of that either.

                  1. re: susancinsf
                    chemchef RE: susancinsf Jul 3, 2008 08:06 AM

                    I meant that, if we go someplace that has hamburgers, she will probably order that. All of us like ALL types of Italian (Cal Ital and traditional, regional Ital, as long as its DONE WELL), and as long as there is something simple and plain on the menu, she will probably order that (places will often make a simple pasta dish, if there's not one on the menu, so it should be fine).

                2. re: susancinsf
                  Robert Lauriston RE: susancinsf Jul 2, 2008 05:03 PM

                  Saha, Fringale, and Coco500 are all around a mile from BART stations.

                  1. re: Robert Lauriston
                    chemchef RE: Robert Lauriston Jul 3, 2008 08:03 AM

                    Not necessarily worried about it being near a BART station.... near Muni is fine, or walking distance (1 mile= no big deal).

                    I just mentioned that we'd be leaving from Rockridge BART, so if there were places near there, it would work well. In SF, doesn't really matter.

            3. re: chemchef
              foodeye RE: chemchef Jul 2, 2008 08:48 AM

              Just mentioning this in case the Dona Tomas connection implies it for you, Flora does not have Mexican food. It does have a well-executed, varied menu and festive atmosphere.

              Is Soizic open on the 4th?

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            ML8000 RE: chemchef Jul 2, 2008 10:21 AM

            Likely all the middle brow places in Jack London Square will be open. If it were me I'd look for some kind of picnic or event.

            1. Morton the Mousse RE: chemchef Jul 2, 2008 10:30 AM

              Mint Leaf is open. I ate there last night and was truly wowed. The food is significantly better than Ajanta - tender lamb, succulent sauces, great texture on the naan. They've done a great job renovating and improving the atmosphere of the place as well.

              Of course, if your friends don't eat Indian, this wont help you, though it may help others...

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              1. re: Morton the Mousse
                Robert Lauriston RE: Morton the Mousse Jul 2, 2008 10:36 AM

                If you eat Indian, Udupi and Kabana are probably open as well. You might also check Flavors of India, it's not far from Rockridge.

                1. re: Robert Lauriston
                  susancinsf RE: Robert Lauriston Jul 2, 2008 11:58 AM

                  I would call before assuming Indian places are open on the fourth, FWIW. Apparently (though I got the information second hand) Vik's is closed.

                  1. re: susancinsf
                    Robert Lauriston RE: susancinsf Jul 2, 2008 05:05 PM

                    It's always a good idea to call, but Udupi and Kabana were open on Christmas, so it's likely they'd be open on the 4th as well.

                  2. re: Robert Lauriston
                    Robert Lauriston RE: Robert Lauriston Jul 4, 2008 11:52 AM

                    I ate at Flavors of India last night, and they had a sign up saying they'd be closed today.

                2. j
                  Joan Kureczka RE: chemchef Jul 3, 2008 08:34 AM

                  Cav is having a special 4th of July barbecue event.

                  1. Glencora RE: chemchef Jul 4, 2008 12:36 PM

                    Liaison Bistro is open, Downtown isn't. Wish it were the other way round.

                    1. Robert Lauriston RE: chemchef Jul 5, 2008 10:49 AM

                      Where did you end up?

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                      1. re: Robert Lauriston
                        chemchef RE: Robert Lauriston Jul 5, 2008 04:42 PM

                        Fog City Diner

                        1. re: chemchef
                          susancinsf RE: chemchef Jul 8, 2008 07:41 AM

                          Can you give us a report?

                          1. re: susancinsf
                            chemchef RE: susancinsf Jul 8, 2008 08:04 AM

                            I never seem to have time to give detailed reports, but I'll do my best:

                            Between the 4 of us, we had:

                            Starter -
                            onion rings: Very good. Slightly greasy, but in a good way. Well seasoned and very tasty.

                            Marinated Hanger Steak with garlic mashed potatoes, wild
                            mushrooms and sweet corn ragout: very good. cooked perfectly.

                            Angus Beef Pot Roast with cabernet sauce and
                            buttermilk mashed potatoes: I didn't try it, but my friend who had it said it was good, but not great.

                            Unintimidating Mixed Greens
                            with vinaigrette: My friend and I both had this and it was very good. Nicely dressed and the greens were very fresh.

                            Dungeness Crab Cakes with sherry cayenne mayonnaise: I had these with my salad... very good, cooked well. my only complaint is a personal one- I don't like when crab cakes have an overwhelming taste of bell peppers and these did. They were good, but like most crab cakes, the bell peppers tended to overwhelm.

                            Macaroni and Gouda Cheese with Black Forest Ham
                            and sweet peas: My friend (who also had the salad) had this. She liked it, but not as much as the one at T-Rex that we had the night before. We all tasted it and agreed.

                            Jalapeno Corn Bread with red pepper jelly
                            Sourdough Loaf with leek and basil butter
                            Farmhouse Cheddar Biscuts

                            We ordered the breads halfway through the meal, and unfortunately they didn't come until we were almost finished since they make them fresh to order and they were swamped. Still, we managed to polish off most of them and they were all very, very good. But, then again, who doesn't like warm bread?

                            We ended the meal with 4 coffee malts. Definitely overkill after a rich meal like that, but they were so cool and refreshing that it didn't matter. Very good.

                            1. re: chemchef
                              susancinsf RE: chemchef Jul 8, 2008 08:36 AM

                              Thanks for the report back! I am with you on bell peppers in crab cakes.

                              Adding a link...

                              1. re: chemchef
                                susancinsf RE: chemchef Jul 8, 2008 08:37 AM

                                trying one more time to add a link

                                Fog City Diner
                                1300 Battery Street, San Francisco, CA 94111

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