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Diana Jul 1, 2008 11:23 AM

Since I am doing my once yearly July Pancake Hootenanny at The Griddle this year, I will be missing out on biscuits. Normally, I go to John O' Groats and get my fill of both. The Griddle selfishly does no make biscuits. This is an injustice, but one I must be resigned to.

I have had O Groats biscuits, and I like them. They remind me of the ones I found easily in Georgia as a child.

Where else can I get them, maybe even (gasp) for dinner? I've heard Pann's are good, as are Honey Kettle's. The Pines cafe was famed, but I think they are gone. I've heard Gaffey St Diner is good, if not traditional. Gravy is good, but a good plain biscuit (or 5) with honey and butter is a fine thing, too. Maybe with some other yummy items.

A basket of Biscuits butter makes things better.
Diana would eat them all if you let her!
Breakfast biscuits are very fine,
bountiful biscuits for dinner are divine!
Big, bouncy, bathed in butter,
Drenched in gravy- my heart's aflutter!
Flaky, tender, my oh my,
I gotta have my biscuits in July!

  1. mollyomormon Jul 1, 2008 12:02 PM

    My favorite biscuits in LA are at O'Groats, Pann's and Clementine, with Pann's probably being my favorite. You could get them at dinner at Pann's, so that might be your best bet.

    1. sbritchky Jul 1, 2008 12:20 PM

      An entire post about biscuits with no mention of country ham? I think that violates some law or other. ;-)

      I'm eager to see the results of your inquiry. Most biscuits that I've found in Southern California outside my own kitchen look like bread inside if you bring along pliers to pull them apart. They taste like bread, too, which is understandable when you know that White Lily doesn't ship its low-gluten flour out here no more. Durn!

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        mollyomormon Jul 1, 2008 12:26 PM

        You can get them with country ham at Clementine!

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          Diana Jul 1, 2008 12:55 PM

          but I don't LIKE country ham!

          Is there a website?

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            mollyomormon Jul 1, 2008 01:02 PM

            Well, it's certainly not a requirement that you get them with ham at Clementine (that's why I said you *can* in response to sbritchky's comment).

            http://www.clementineonline.com/

            p.s. who doesn't like country ham??? do you dislike puppies and babies? ;)

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              Diana Jul 1, 2008 01:04 PM

              oooh, long live freedom of choice! :)

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                mollyomormon Jul 1, 2008 01:39 PM

                Not biscuit related, but the summer succotash and the beluga lentil/beet/goat cheese salads currently on the menu at Clementime are really wonderful.

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                sbritchky Jul 1, 2008 01:45 PM

                Good one, mollyomormon!

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              sbritchky Jul 1, 2008 01:02 PM

              I see that on their Web site (http://www.clementineonline.com/), together with gravlax and jidori chicken -- I guess this is really the new South. I've avoided Clementine because of the parking difficulties, but maybe I'll try curbside pickup -- thanks!

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              nosh Jul 1, 2008 01:08 PM

              Place that is known for ham in L.A. is Nick's, up on North Spring just N/E of Chinatown. Good diner, U-shaped counter and some tables against the walls, lots of cops, gravel parking area. Have no idea about their biscuits, but their ham crisped up on the grill is the real thing.

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                sbritchky Jul 1, 2008 02:00 PM

                Is this the place: http://www.latimemachines.com/new_pag...

                You're talking about true country ham? Thin-sliced, rather tough, salty, bitter, delicious? I've had what some small cafes around Southern California called "country ham" but which was merely sweet ham over which some fry-cook had whispered "goober" before sending it out.

                Johnny Rebs' has decent (if anemic-looking) biscuits, but I hesitate to recommend them for breakfast, because their country ham is too porkysloppicus for even this ham fiend.

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                  JAB Jul 1, 2008 04:15 PM

                  Tried Nick's ham recently and it was way too salty and I have a very high tolerance for salt.

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                    Burger Boy Jul 1, 2008 04:47 PM

                    I do not think Nick's does biscuits. Great ham & salsa!

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                      Diana Jul 2, 2008 06:08 AM

                      umm, gang, I don't like ham..I want biscuits! Can ham be another thread? I mean, ham is perfectly wonderful for those who like it, but I really am looking for biscuit recs!

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                        mollyomormon Jul 2, 2008 08:43 AM

                        I think you should probably skip Nick's, then.

                  2. Will Owen Jul 1, 2008 03:01 PM

                    I just spotted some rather hockey-puck-looking ones at Park Pantry in Long Beach - the woman in front of me was having the breakfast I woulda gotten IF I weren't trying to ease off some more weight... Of course I don't know how they are, really, but I intend to find out eventually. Anybody had any experience with those?

                    Pann's biscuits are very good. When I first started going there six or seven years ago they stopped making them midmorning, and they'd run out by lunchtime. I guess they got enough requests to convince them to keep that oven going...

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                      mollyomormon Jul 1, 2008 04:09 PM

                      I hope my post didn't imply I know they're available at dinner time at Pann's. I was more saying that of those three places, Pann's is the only one open for dinner and I was just sort of assuming biscuits were avaliable at night since most of their menu seems to be available then. Definitely call before you go to make sure they have them!

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                      jjsawrey Jul 1, 2008 04:09 PM

                      Diana, as a girl who grew up in West Virginia and got a MA at Georgia, I will say that Honey's Kettle makes some damn fine biscuits. I don't remember being terribly impressed or overly disappointed in Clementine's. I can't vouche for the others.

                      If you are ever in (or near) Huntington, WV, boy do I have a rec for you:
                      http://flickr.com/photos/pancakejess/...

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                        JEN10 Jul 1, 2008 04:54 PM

                        jj
                        That is just cruel and darn right mean to show us such lucious goodies so far away!!!!!!!!!!

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                          Diana Jul 2, 2008 06:09 AM

                          drool....

                        2. Emme Jul 1, 2008 06:31 PM

                          Don't shoot me... not suggesting you go here for dinner, but perhaps take-out on the way back from Griddle ;) Okay, seriously, Cheesecake Factory serves an interesting biscuit with their biscuits and gravy... you can order them as a side...

                          vouch also for honey kettle, s&w diner, sittons in noho, SimonLA

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                            nosh Jul 1, 2008 08:09 PM

                            Liked the Honey's Kettle biscuits very much last time I had fried chicken there. (Note: There have been 2 for 1 coupons for their 2-piece basket in the middle of the entertainment magazine section of the Thursday L.A. Times for several weeks now.) Must advise, though, that despite my oft-repeated high regard for S & W (perhaps the best hashbrowns in town ordered well done, good pancakes, fine homemade corned beef hash) their biscuits are strange to say the least. Very caky, light airy, cut in squares from a loaf. Not the usual disc crumbly crispy outside, textured inside at all. Almost like an ultralight cornbread square cut from a loaf made without cornmeal or any corn flavor.

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                              Diana Jul 2, 2008 06:11 AM

                              Now, I never thought of Sitton's. Thatt's an idea. Is it still open 24 hours? Are they tender/flaky?

                              Maybe I should just kidnap Alton Brown or Paula Deen.

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                                Emme Jul 2, 2008 02:04 PM

                                yesh ma'am.

                                of course, grabbing alton or paula would likely make for a more celebratory day :)

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                              GoodEatz Jul 2, 2008 09:06 AM

                              My favorite Biscuits and Gravy are from Jenny's Kitchen, a very small hole-in-the-wall at Telegraph x Carmenita. Second, is Flo's Airport Cafe who seems to have a really good gravy, but the biscuits don't taste as real as Jenny's. Either Flo's will do, but I prefer the old school greasy spoon atmosphere and hustle of Flo's Airport Cafe.

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                              Jenny's Kitchen
                              13319 Telegraph Rd, Whittier, CA 90605

                              Flo's
                              5650 Riverside Dr, Chino, CA 91710

                              Flo's Airport Cafe
                              7000 Merrill Ave Ste 8, Chino, CA 91710

                              1. zoememel Jul 2, 2008 02:23 PM

                                No. john o'groats is the absolute best. for sure. they serve them with delicious raspberry and apricot preserves and the butter melts in your mouth like heaven. Plus, they have pretty good pancakes and overall breakfast, so you won't miss out on the amazing griddle pancakes. There is a wait on busy mornings, but if you eat at th griddle i am sure you are used to that. if you do find another place with grerat biscuits, please write me because soft butter biscuits are my favorite! with butter of course!

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                                  Diana Jul 3, 2008 06:59 AM

                                  AS I said, I've done John O' Groats for the past few years. Wanted to try someone else's cakes. Mybe I can get a bag o biscuits at Groats and sneak em into the Griddle!

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                                  Tiplow Jul 2, 2008 02:33 PM

                                  I like the biscuits at the Serving Spoon restaurant in Inglewood (on Centinela, just west of La Brea). They are light and flaky and delicious. I also the biscuits at the Coffee Co. in Westchester on La Tijera, right off Sepulveda near LAX. Not the same consistency as the Serving Spoon (a little more dense) but still delicious. BTW, both of these place do outstanding breakfasts.

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                                    condiment Jul 2, 2008 03:41 PM

                                    Weirdly enough, I think the best restaurant biscuits in town may be at Popeye's. Flaky, light and moist, separating nicely into layers, slightly chewy but without a hint of cakiness. I'm sure they're loaded with every kind of transfat you can imagine, but they're really good - and I speak as somebody fanatic enough about biscuits to mailorder flour from Kentucky.

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                                      Diana Jul 3, 2008 07:00 AM

                                      Wait... where do you order them from?

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                                        mollyomormon Jul 3, 2008 08:56 AM

                                        "Them" meaning the Popeye's biscuits (from any Popeye's) or the flour?

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                                          Diana Jul 3, 2008 10:00 AM

                                          The bags of flour.

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                                            condiment Jul 3, 2008 10:42 AM

                                            www.weisenberger.com

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                                              Diana Jul 3, 2008 12:17 PM

                                              Danke!

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                                      Oh Robin Jul 3, 2008 09:35 AM

                                      My favorite biscuits (with thick white bacony sausageish gravy of course) are from Dale's Diner. More fluffy than flaky, and so good. A meal in itself.

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                                      Dale's Diner
                                      4339 E Carson St, Long Beach, CA 90808

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                                        Diana Jul 3, 2008 10:01 AM

                                        Long beach is a bit far to drive for a not flaky biscuit, I think!

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                                          Oh Robin Jul 3, 2008 10:47 AM

                                          Well, if you're ever in the neighborhood they're delish.

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                                        JudiAU Jul 3, 2008 11:12 AM

                                        Gulfstream serves a pretty tasty biscuit. They are flavored with rosemary and served with butter and honey. The rosemary is interesting and might not be what you want but if you can get past that.

                                        1. rednyellow Jul 3, 2008 07:57 PM

                                          The Flying Leap on Hyperion in Silverlake has very good biscuits and gravy. It's been a while, but I really enjoyed them.

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                                            mlgb Jul 4, 2008 07:44 AM

                                            Southern-style biscuits really aren't "flaky" in the pastry sense.

                                            I won't recommend any more places in Long Beach since it's too far (and there are several), but what about Roscoe's?

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                                              Diana Jul 4, 2008 07:53 AM

                                              umm, no flaky in the biscuit sense. tender, too.

                                              best served warm, with gravy smothered over them or on the side. Or with great sweet butter and a bear full o good honey... oh, wow...

                                              I thought of Roscoe's, but I heard their biscuits were pretty blah.

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                                                Servorg Jul 4, 2008 08:26 AM

                                                My current plan is a 5:15 a.m. "biscuit run" to Gaffey St. diner tomorrow. Will report back on their current state of blessed biscuitness if the plan comes off.

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                                                  Diana Jul 4, 2008 09:25 AM

                                                  oooh!

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                                                    Servorg Jul 5, 2008 06:17 AM

                                                    Just back from the Gaffey St. Diner. Got there a few minutes before they open (5 am). Biscuits were made that morning. Got the biscuit and gravy meal with two eggs over medium (the eggs were cooked perfectly, which means the yolks were still runny but the white was set), potatoes with onions and green peppers.

                                                    These are big, thick, soft and moist biscuits. They are not the "flaky" style, Diana so I don't know what your reaction would be. The white gravy is rich and studded with generous pieces of sausage patty. This is a "filling" breakfast. As I type this I can feel the blood in my veins running sluggishly (g). No lunch for me today. With coffee the tab was $10.25. Good, friendly service. Maybe a total of 5 or 6 people, other than me.

                                                    Almost immediately on your right as you get off of the end of the 110 freeway in San Pedro on the right as you exit to the left on to Gaffey St. (247 N Gaffey).

                                                    Next week I will give John O'Groats a fresh try for biscuits and give you my take on the contrast.

                                                    Looking forward to reading your Griddle Cafe report when you get finished with that carbo loading adventure.

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                                                      JEN10 Jul 5, 2008 06:39 AM

                                                      Serv,
                                                      Have you tried the biscuits at Pacific Diner in Pedro? They have great breakfasts there!

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                                                        Servorg Jul 5, 2008 06:44 AM

                                                        Still have to get there one of these days. It's 25 miles one way to Gaffey St. Diner, so normally I don't go unless I am already down there for some other purpose. Have you reviewed/been there recently? I would love to read your review.

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                                                          JEN10 Jul 5, 2008 07:29 AM

                                                          I haven't been in awhile. Hubby loves the machaca omelet. They always have daily specials too. Next time you are down that way give em a try. Go early, they get very busy!!!

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                                                  mlgb Jul 4, 2008 02:16 PM

                                                  I wonder how Kizzy's are?

                                                  There's a Lucille's in Torrance. The meal comes with a free basket of biscuits and apple butter. They are the tender crumbly kind that I like.

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                                                    Newkie Jul 9, 2008 04:06 PM

                                                    Aunt Kizzy's are amazing, just loaded with butter. Probably mys favorite biscuits in LA. If you like buttery buscuits I'd also recommend Saddle Ranch. Yeah, I know the place isn't known as a culinary destination, but they serve some damn fine biscuits that come free with your meal.

                                                    If you prefer a lighter, fluffier biscuit I'd recommend Clementines or Quality on 3rd.

                                                  2. re: Diana
                                                    Will Owen Jul 7, 2008 01:29 PM

                                                    I've had Roscoe's "biscuits" just once; I put the word in quotes because the objects I was served were more in the nature of yeast rolls. Compounding the crime was the gravy, which was the watery oniony brown kind. Now, I have heard since then that some folks have gotten proper cream gravy at one Roscoe's or another, and perhaps they've seen the light on biscuits, too. But I'm kinda gunshy here - I sure as hell don't want to go through that kind of trauma again...

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                                                      Diana Jul 8, 2008 06:34 AM

                                                      eew..no thanks. gotta be flakey with the sausage gravy! (or butter and honey!)

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                                                        Will Owen Jul 8, 2008 03:02 PM

                                                        I would accept fried chicken cream gravy, if only they'd make it. One of the things I loved about having breakfast at the Loveless Café south of Nashville was that you could mix up breakfast and lunch, and get an order of fried chicken and some chicken gravy along with your eggs and biscuits. Slap-yer-granny good! Now that the place has been all "improved" I don't know if you can still do that...

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                                                  goop Jul 5, 2008 03:51 AM

                                                  I have a weakness for good biscuits, but is there any places that sell the delicious biscuits (as opposed to having to go to restaurant). I'm in the miracle mile area.

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                                                    Servorg Jul 5, 2008 04:35 AM

                                                    You might want to check with Clementine in Century City.

                                                    http://www.clementineonline.com/

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                                                      mollyomormon Jul 5, 2008 09:02 AM

                                                      Or, as nosh recommended above, the ones from Popeye's aren't bad at all in a pinch.

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                                                        nosh Jul 5, 2008 09:40 AM

                                                        Hey, Molly, I agree that the biscuits at Popeye's are pretty good if you catch them at the right time, but there aren't any branches left in my neck of the woods in Westwood or W.L.A. I was giving kudos above to the ones at Honey's Kettle in Culver City, which did indeed offer another 2 for 1 coupon in Thursday's L.A. Times. Be careful to check those transcripts -- next thing someone will be saying I'm recommending biscuits from Philly West!!

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                                                          Burger Boy Jul 5, 2008 11:56 AM

                                                          Damn ! Philly West has biscuits ! Do they have a good sausage gravy to go with the biscuits? What a great find. TY

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                                                            mollyomormon Jul 5, 2008 03:48 PM

                                                            ugh, sorry! that was condiment's rec! I think the Popeye's at Santa Monica and 26th that's been replaced by Starbuck's was the last westside one, right? Bummer. I will definitely have to check out the ones at Honey's Kettle.

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                                                          condiment Jul 6, 2008 09:33 AM

                                                          The thing about biscuits is that the best ones have about a 20-minute window of deliciousness before they stale. Any longer than that, somebody is making compromises to allow shelflife.

                                                        3. wutzizname Jul 6, 2008 04:07 PM

                                                          The much maligned THE WAFFLE has excellent biscuits. Gravy didn't impress me. But with butter and honey, you're in business.

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                                                          The Waffle
                                                          6255 W Sunset Blvd Ste 105, Los Angeles, CA 90028

                                                          1. Steve2 in LA Jul 6, 2008 04:16 PM

                                                            As a baker myownselves, with a repertoire of tasty 'scuits, I'd like to weigh in with one more vote for Popeye's.

                                                            1. JEN10 Jul 6, 2008 05:13 PM

                                                              So Diana, where is it going to be? Do you only eat biscuits on your birthday? Because if you try all of these out you may need to start wearing pans with elastic waists or the dreaded MooMoo (housecoat).

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                                                                Diana Jul 7, 2008 07:04 AM

                                                                I only eat them on my birthday, pretty genreally as a rule. This year I had some sweet potato ones at easter on the rabbit stew I made. But it isn't the same as the Birthdya one.

                                                                I gotta say, with all the info, I'm at a total loss!

                                                                Where the heck do I go???

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                                                                  JEN10 Jul 7, 2008 07:27 AM

                                                                  Well if it were me I would try a few different places and then you will have a better idea of what is the BEST. I say choose three places and make a day of it, just remember to wear the elastic waist pants that day.

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                                                                    Diana Jul 7, 2008 11:44 AM

                                                                    gosh, I wish I could, but my mind jut won't let me fathom a "biscuit crawl" with Griddle pancakes

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                                                                      Emme Jul 7, 2008 06:35 PM

                                                                      do you have a friend or two perhaps (with taste buds you respect) that might step up to the task of said crawl?

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                                                                        Diana Jul 8, 2008 06:35 AM

                                                                        Not that love biscuits the same as me!

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                                                                jennlynn318 Jul 7, 2008 11:25 AM

                                                                I too am a biscuit fiend!... I'm a HUGE fan of the buscuits and gravy at a little place in Redondo Beach called Nancy's. Now.. Nancy's may not have an "A" rating.. they set up their out-door patio in the parking lot next door to a dry cleaner. This in my opinion is part of the charm of this little gem. I have sat inside on rainy days, but the decor is less than appetizing. However, the devine flavors that arrive with the fresh flaky buscuits and gravy are worth it!!

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                                                                  Steve2 in LA Jul 7, 2008 11:53 AM

                                                                  Ever try Pillsbury's frozen biscuits? Loathe as I am to endorse a ready-made product, I've gotta say, they're purty fit t'eat and they don't come hotter, fresher or more convenient.

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                                                                    Diana Jul 7, 2008 11:56 AM

                                                                    eew god forbid! The only thing pillsbury biscuit dough is good for is making fast doughnuts.

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                                                                      Steve2 in LA Jul 7, 2008 12:03 PM

                                                                      Not the refrigerated-biscuit-in-a-can versions. I'm talking about the ones that come a dozen-to-a-bag pre-formed-frozen product. Check 'em out. I'm just sayin'.

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                                                                        goop Jul 9, 2008 08:58 AM

                                                                        Thanks Steve2.... nothing wrong in giving them a try.

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                                                                    Foodandwine Jul 7, 2008 06:10 PM

                                                                    Nancys is closed RIP

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                                                                      jennlynn318 Jul 7, 2008 08:28 PM

                                                                      Oh NOOOOOOO!!! I just moved back to the South Bay and haven't been down there... oh.. it's a sad.. sad day. :(

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