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Cheesesteak experts: New Yorker here...

Sammiches Jun 30, 2008 05:42 AM

Any of you native Philly cheesesteak experts ever gotten a good cheesesteak in NYC? Any secret locations in NYC that no one knows about?

I've eaten at Carl's Steaks and 99 Miles to Philly, was curious you found these authentic. What makes a good cheesesteak, do it need to have wiz?

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    jeremy5 RE: Sammiches Jun 30, 2008 08:35 AM

    I've tried both and found them to be pretty crappy. I think a good cheeze steak has to have wiz and fried onions. My favorite spot i've found since moving to new york(from philly) is wogies on greenwich ave. It's not as greasy as a typical philly cheesteak, but is pretty damn good.

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      IamStarving RE: jeremy5 Jun 30, 2008 08:57 AM

      I thought there was a Tony Luk'c in NYC. Is that true? If so, I would try there.

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        bluehensfan RE: IamStarving Jun 30, 2008 10:36 AM

        Tony Luke's NYC outpost, like the one at Penn, has been closed for a while. From what I've read in Fodor's, the cheesesteak offerings in NYC are medicre at best, so you'll probably have to trek down to Philly for a good sandwich.

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      stephaniec25 RE: Sammiches Jun 30, 2008 12:31 PM

      Carl's Steaks are OK, nothing like a philly cheesesteak but it's good in its own right. I think a good cheesesteak required the right bread, thinly sliced steak, onions, and definitely Whiz.

      I've heard good things about Shorty's but have yet to try it. It took over Tony Luke's and apparently has a great cheesesteak. Has anyone?

      1. Spends Rent on Food RE: Sammiches Jun 30, 2008 12:50 PM

        In my college years I was brought up on on Pats, Genos, Tony Lukes (Shorty's) and Cosmo's (and all the others in South Philly). The closest I've come to a true Philly cheesesteak is Carls on 34th & 3rd. That isn't to say that Carl's comes close to a true Cheese Steak.

        The problem with Carl's is they're very inconsistent. I've had some of the best cheesesteaks of my life there but also some of the worst. And on my last trip they informed me "we're out of Wiz." At which point I turned around and walked out without saying a word.

        My relationship with Carls is one of convenience - and sooner or later the craving will come on strong with no option of getting to Philly andl I'll be back in line at Carl's and there's a chance I be surprised and get them on a good day, but more than likely I'll be disappointed.

        As you can tell I have a lot invested in my cheesesteaks, but that's what happens when you're brought up on the real deal in Philly.

        If you're still reading and want to try Carl's you need to know that you'll have to order double-cheese on your "pepper cheese wiz with" steak to get the right cheese/steak ratio. It may also help to know that Carls does their steak chopped, like Toney Lukes and Cosmo's.

        1. misnatalie RE: Sammiches Jun 30, 2008 12:54 PM

          This might help

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            george2 RE: Sammiches Jun 30, 2008 01:33 PM

            Getting a good cheese steak in NYC is easy.
            1. Take the GW Bridge, Holland or Lincoln Tunnels and go south on the NJ Turnpike.
            2. Get off at Route 73 exit to the Ben Franklin Bridge
            3. Once in Philadelphia try 14 Snyder Ave. or any other decent place for a cheese steak.

            For anyone in Philly who wants decent NYC style pizza, just reverse the directions.

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              mazza3 RE: george2 Jul 1, 2008 08:08 AM

              heh. true. and although i am a philly native and have gotten wiz on my steak, provolone and american is just as authentic. wiz is certainly not the only acceptable toping on a cheesesteak.

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              UWSEater RE: Sammiches Jul 1, 2008 09:32 AM

              As I'm sitting here eating a cheesesteak from Shorty's (which I think was a Tony Luke's a few months ago) I'd have to say it's pretty good. The bread is not quite the same, but this is the leftover bit from the 2 I ordered last night, so that probably plays into it.
              After doing a 5 location test taste a few times last year (grueling work, but someone has to do it) of Carl's, 99 Miles, Wogies, Shorty's and Philly Slims, the consensus opinion was Shorty's came out on top each time. Not exactly the same as Pat's or Geno's but pretty close.

              1. bosun RE: Sammiches Jul 1, 2008 11:19 AM

                I am a New Yorker but I happen to really like 99 miles to Philly. I love their waffle fries too!!

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