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Jun 30, 2008 05:42 AM

Cheesesteak experts: New Yorker here...

Any of you native Philly cheesesteak experts ever gotten a good cheesesteak in NYC? Any secret locations in NYC that no one knows about?

I've eaten at Carl's Steaks and 99 Miles to Philly, was curious you found these authentic. What makes a good cheesesteak, do it need to have wiz?

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    1. I've tried both and found them to be pretty crappy. I think a good cheeze steak has to have wiz and fried onions. My favorite spot i've found since moving to new york(from philly) is wogies on greenwich ave. It's not as greasy as a typical philly cheesteak, but is pretty damn good.

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      1. re: jeremy5

        I thought there was a Tony Luk'c in NYC. Is that true? If so, I would try there.

        1. re: IamStarving

          Tony Luke's NYC outpost, like the one at Penn, has been closed for a while. From what I've read in Fodor's, the cheesesteak offerings in NYC are medicre at best, so you'll probably have to trek down to Philly for a good sandwich.

      2. Carl's Steaks are OK, nothing like a philly cheesesteak but it's good in its own right. I think a good cheesesteak required the right bread, thinly sliced steak, onions, and definitely Whiz.

        I've heard good things about Shorty's but have yet to try it. It took over Tony Luke's and apparently has a great cheesesteak. Has anyone?

        1. In my college years I was brought up on on Pats, Genos, Tony Lukes (Shorty's) and Cosmo's (and all the others in South Philly). The closest I've come to a true Philly cheesesteak is Carls on 34th & 3rd. That isn't to say that Carl's comes close to a true Cheese Steak.

          The problem with Carl's is they're very inconsistent. I've had some of the best cheesesteaks of my life there but also some of the worst. And on my last trip they informed me "we're out of Wiz." At which point I turned around and walked out without saying a word.

          My relationship with Carls is one of convenience - and sooner or later the craving will come on strong with no option of getting to Philly andl I'll be back in line at Carl's and there's a chance I be surprised and get them on a good day, but more than likely I'll be disappointed.

          As you can tell I have a lot invested in my cheesesteaks, but that's what happens when you're brought up on the real deal in Philly.

          If you're still reading and want to try Carl's you need to know that you'll have to order double-cheese on your "pepper cheese wiz with" steak to get the right cheese/steak ratio. It may also help to know that Carls does their steak chopped, like Toney Lukes and Cosmo's.