REVIEW: Angelo's Coal Oven Pizza
- Das Ubergeek Jun 29, 2008 03:11 PM
You may have figured out by now that I just spent a week in Midtown, one of many more to come. I'm coming back to the land of my birth from Los Angeles which, while chock full of absolutely fantastic eats (and cheap eats at that), is woefully short on what I consider excellent pizza.
When I say "pizza" I mean a flat, bubbly-crusted piece of bread onto which normal tomato sauce, olibe oil and good mozzarella cheese have been added, and a short list of approved toppings (hint: if it contains a sauce other than red gravy or just garlic oil, it is not pizza as I know and love it).
So when I was walking down 57th St. toward Carnegie Hall one night I smelled the real deal. It's not hard to find good pizza in New York, but this smelled incredible -- unfortunately I'd just come back from dinner and had no room for more food.
So Friday at lunch I disappeared out of my office on 8th Ave. and walked over to Angelo's, where I sat at the bar and ordered a small pie and a Diet Coke. The pizza came out very, very quickly -- coal ovens are hot and don't take a lot of time to make a pizza, and this fits in very nicely with the come-ON-already nature of New York lunch hours -- and smelled fantastic. Garlic powder, Parmesan cheese (powder-in-a-green-plastic-tub type), red pepper flakes, oregano and pepper were set down, and I went to town.
It was very, very good. The only major beef I have is that the crust was over-oiled a bit and so the cheese slid around. I would have liked it to be cut in fourths instead of eighths, because it would have folded better, but that's really just a nit to pick there. The mozzarella was fresh and bubbly and appropriately burned (it really does need to have a couple of "brown spots"). The basil leaves were fresh. I added oregano and garlic and it really hit the spot.
They don't, by the way, refill drinks for free. While part of me is irritated about this, because it's not normal to be charged per soda in Los Angeles, the greater part of me thinks that this is a good idea because it will reduce the amount of soda I drink. In point of fact I lost four pounds in a week in New York despite eating like a king, because I didn't drink lots of soda (when it's humid out, all I ever want is water) and I walked most places.
So, while Angelo's has very good pizza, Lombardi's it ain't -- first of all, there's room to move, which is not the case at Lombardi's. The pizza is, in fact, better at Lombardi's, but Lombardi's stands out even in New York for excellent pizza. The pizza holds together better at Lombardi's; the gravy is tangier. The crust is about equal.
Service was surprisingly friendly given the speed at which they were moving. Prices were not unreasonable -- I think a large pizza is $17 and a small is $13 but I could be wrong, I wasn't paying a lot of attention.
So, this poses a question, though -- what other pizza is a "must try" within a reasonable (let's call it an hour to get there, eat and come back) distance of 50th and 8th? By the slice or whole pie. Walking distance would be preferable, since then I can justify eating two pieces instead of one. I know about Artichoke, which is on my list for a day when I can afford to take the time to get down to 14th St.
117 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019
i really like new pizza town on w78 and brdwy. many people are also big fans of sal and carmines on brdwy near W102 but that may be a far schlep for you. for new pizza town, take the 1 train to w79 and walk a block but just make sure the train is stopping there b/c the station has been closed for construction. this takeout place sells pizza by the slice . nothing fancy but the pizza is really great. try a regular slice, a sicilian or grandma slice. it's all really good - sauce, cheese and crust - in comparison to the dozens of places i've tried .
angelo's is good but i find the service really rude. you may also like patsy's - they have several locations scattered across the city and are owned by the folks at angelo's. john's on bleeker st is legendary to some and they also have a midtown location but i did not find it as good as their downtown location.
i admire you for losing weight while still partaking in the NY eats. soda really does pile on the pounds and physical exercise does wonders!!
I'd rate both Arturo's and Patsy's East Harlem over Lombardi's. But, like KTinNYC, I've never been to Angelo's.
DUG, when you do go to Artichoke, make sure to try a plain slice of the square. Another place to try that isn't too far away is Lazarra's on 38th btw 7th and 8th -- excellent grandma pizza.
Mariella's is just up the avenue from you at 57th and 8th. I haven't been there in ages but the recent posts I found here suggests the place is still going strong. Sold by the slice so you can have two! Nothing fancy inside, just to set expectations properly
Patsy's on 117th and First, it's worth the trip. Whole Large Pie in 8 minutes and absolutely delicious. Better than Lombardi's. Grab a cab, order on way, run in and head back to work.
We stumbled into Angelos's on our first trip to NYC several years ago before it opened next to the Letterman theater. We loved it from that point on. We stay in the Village though so we have since tried Arturo's and love it too.. The atmosphere is very different in each place but both have excellent pizza.
While I live on Long Island I have to say that I found Angelo's disappointing.
The crust of a well made Coal Pizza should arive blistered and charred. The crust should be thin and when you pick up the slice it should crunch. None of these qualifications were met on my visit. My first warning should have been the twin little loaves of bread in the basket. I think wounder bread baked them, italian is semolina.
I think I remember your postings from the LA board. I have been in NY for a few years living in Midtown West, and have found finding good pizza midtown not as easy as one would assume (in LA I think the general assumption- perpetuated mainly from NY transplants- is that there is a great slice on every corner). I find Angelos and John's (nn 44th) the best of the delivery-friendly options. I have to say, though, I do sometimes miss Casa Bianca, my pizza of choice in LA. Hope that you are enjoying your NY time, and exploring the many food options NY has to offer (though none include the simple beauty of an In and Out burger).