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Looking for tomatoes for cooking that aren't canned.

Ediblethoughts Jun 29, 2008 11:42 AM

I'm trying to stay away from bisphenol-A (which, I understand, lines mass-marketed canned tomatoes). I generally use a lot of tomatoes in cooking (so it's not practical to use fresh tomatoes---though if I could keep enough in the house to use fresh I would) and I'm now at a bit of a loss as to how to purchase them. Has anyone seen an alternative way to buy tomatoes (perhaps bottled)? For some reason, spaghetti sauce is always sold in glass bottles but I never see just plain tomatoes sold that way.

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  1. Kagemusha RE: Ediblethoughts Jun 29, 2008 01:45 PM

    I think you're being a bit phobic given the panoply of trace toxins we all face but bottled sauce seems your only hope until the late summer glut arrives. I'd get ready for some serious canning now if your goal is to skip canned product altogether.

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      Ediblethoughts RE: Kagemusha Jun 29, 2008 02:16 PM

      I actually don't have to skip canned goods together. One of the organic companies has switched from bisphenol-A lining for all but their tomatoes--because of consumer concerns (I understand they have to continue to use it for tomatoes because of the acidity). And yeah, maybe I am phobic but who knows what horrible findings will come out in the next year or two to finalize the debate about this compound in canned goods? Also when you eat as many canned tomatoes as I did (about 7 ounces a day), that's a lot of bisphenol-A to be consuming.

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        Kagemusha RE: Ediblethoughts Jun 29, 2008 02:38 PM

        Then cook imported fresh plum tomatoes. I always wonder about pesticide residue and bacteria levels on those, though.

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          Ediblethoughts RE: Kagemusha Jun 29, 2008 03:01 PM

          That requires a ton of fresh tomatoes to meet my needs--and a ton of freezer space (which I don't have). And more time than I currently have. Which is why I'd like to buy them in an easy-to-use form. (You are right though--the pesticide issue is one I do think about with non-organic canned tomatoes.)

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          detritus RE: Ediblethoughts Jun 30, 2008 06:05 AM

          Yeah, until someone looks into it and figures out that there some other worse toxin in the liners the organic company is using...

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            Ediblethoughts RE: detritus Jun 30, 2008 09:38 AM

            This is what Eden Organic says they do re canned beans: Eden Organic Beans are packed in lead free tin covered steel cans coated with a baked on oleoresinous c-enamel lining that does not contain bisphenol-A (BPA). (Oleoresin is a natural mixture of an oil and a resin extracted from various plants, such as pine or balsam fir).

            http://www.edenfoods.com/about/enviro...

            I think it sounds reasonably promising (preferable to me to the plastic option) but, yes, time will tell.

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              jayt90 RE: Ediblethoughts Jun 30, 2008 10:47 AM

              The Eden tomatoes in Loblaws come from Canada, possibly Utopia. You could e mail Loblaws.

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                Ediblethoughts RE: jayt90 Jun 30, 2008 01:47 PM

                Aren't those canned tomatoes? (I'm pretty sure Eden uses the BPA in their canned tomatoes.)

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                  jayt90 RE: Ediblethoughts Jun 30, 2008 06:51 PM

                  Yes, Eden owns up to that. In your previous post, you said Eden sounds reasonably promising. They claim that bisphenol-A is held to a minimum, and, in their website, they claim they get their fruits and vegs, within 250 miles of their MI location.
                  That is good enough for me.
                  The Eden canned tomatoes in Loblaws are $3.50, and clearly state they are a product of Canada. So that has to be S.W. Ontario to meet their 250 mile standard.
                  Right beside them, in the Loblaws organic section, are cans of Thomas Utopia organic tomatoes, from Chatham, ON (actually the Kerr farm), at $1.69. They may be the same crop as Eden, but I don't know if the canning process is the same.
                  It is worth checking.

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                    Ediblethoughts RE: jayt90 Jul 1, 2008 10:11 AM

                    Good idea. I'll try emailing them.

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                      jayt90 RE: Ediblethoughts Jul 1, 2008 11:10 AM

                      I found this information from Eden: their canned tomatoes do indeed come from the Kerr farm which is on the southern outskirts of Chatham, ON. And they are canned by Thomas Utopia, in Essex county. http://www.edenfoods.com/articles/vie... http://www.edenfoods.com/faqs/view.ph...

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                        Ediblethoughts RE: jayt90 Jul 1, 2008 11:51 AM

                        But then the question of what they line their cans with still remains, right?

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                          Otonabee RE: Ediblethoughts Jul 1, 2008 04:02 PM

                          From their website:

                          Are Eden's canned tomatoes packed in cans with enamel lining that contain bisphenol-A?
                          Eden Organic Tomatoes are packed in steel cans coated with a baked on r-enamel lining. Due to the acidity of tomatoes, the lining is epoxy based and may contain a minute amount of bisphenol-A, it is however in the 'non detectable' range according to independent laboratory extraction tests. The test was based on a detection level at 5 ppb (parts per billion).

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                            Ediblethoughts RE: Otonabee Jul 1, 2008 04:08 PM

                            Thanks for checking that out. Sounds like going with Eden's tomatoes may be the best way to go depending on what Utopia says about their cans. Of course, I'll still look for those jars...

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                              jayt90 RE: Ediblethoughts Jul 1, 2008 04:47 PM

                              Let us know if they reply. Utopia is tempting, the same farm and cannery, at half the price. If you are still, concerned, Eden is a fine product and I'm glad they source tomatoes in Ontario.

      2. pescatarian RE: Ediblethoughts Jun 29, 2008 03:14 PM

        I've seen jarred tomatoes. not sauce, just jarred tomatoes. They might be pulverized a bit, but not a sauce with spices, etc. added. The kind you'd "can" in jars if you were Italian an had a pressure canner in your back yard. I can't think of the name of the brand(s), but I'm pretty sure I just saw some at Maselli's on the Danforth. I'm sure I've seen at Loblaws also. I'd imagine you could find them at Whole Foods or Pusateri's as well.

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          Ediblethoughts RE: pescatarian Jun 29, 2008 04:24 PM

          I didn't think that was available at Loblaws but next time I'm there, I'll ask (and will try the other two if Loblaws doesn't have it). That is just what I wanted to get--and so knowing they are out there helps. If anyone does know a brand name, that would be great.

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            pescatarian RE: Ediblethoughts Jun 29, 2008 07:29 PM

            I look for a name next time I see them. there's a store near me on O'Connor that I think might have them also. It's called Select Bakery, but they have a lot of jarred vegetables, Italian and Greek style.

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              Ediblethoughts RE: pescatarian Jun 30, 2008 09:34 AM

              Thanks!

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                pescatarian RE: Ediblethoughts Jul 6, 2008 01:12 PM

                I was at that Bakery I mentioned above, yesterday and they have strained and crushed tomatoes (nothing added) in tall jars by Aurora brand.

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                  Ediblethoughts RE: pescatarian Jul 7, 2008 03:17 PM

                  Any whole tomatoes by any chance? I like pieces of tomatoe if possible. Overall it sounds like I'm going to have to stray somewhat outside my Y & E hood to find these products!

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          plavka RE: Ediblethoughts Jun 29, 2008 03:42 PM

          Pomi tomatoes are tetra packed. You can find them at Highland Farms.

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            jayt90 RE: plavka Jun 29, 2008 05:10 PM

            They are good, worth the price. Highland Farms also has Italian tomatoes (chopped) in jars, in the same aisle.

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            Debinko RE: Ediblethoughts Jun 29, 2008 05:44 PM

            Yummy food market in North York. Small tomatoes are sold like pickles, but they do not really taste "pickeled". Worth trying

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              Ediblethoughts RE: Debinko Jun 30, 2008 09:39 AM

              Where is that located?

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              hoagy294 RE: Ediblethoughts Jun 29, 2008 07:20 PM

              I read that Eden Foods sells their canned beans in cans that don't have BPA in the lining, it might be the same for the tomatoes. Check at the Big Carrot, Noah's, etc.
              Loblaws and No Frills and the little Italian grocers along the Danforth sell bottled crushed/pureed tomatoes.

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                Ediblethoughts RE: hoagy294 Jun 30, 2008 09:45 AM

                I read an article saying they couldn't get away from using BPAs with the tomatoes due to the acidity and the article on their site (http://www.edenfoods.com/about/enviro...) is pretty quiet about the lining of the tomatoes. I'm pretty sure Noah's doesn't have the bottled tomatoes (I go to the one at Y & E quite often) but no harm in asking.

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                torontofoodiegirl RE: Ediblethoughts Jul 2, 2008 07:26 AM

                I saw tetra packed tomatoes at the Sobey's near Laird and Eglinton when I was there on Monday. However, they only seemed to have 2 packages left at the time.

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                  smr714 RE: Ediblethoughts Jul 6, 2008 07:38 PM

                  The Aurora brand on sale this week at fortino's/Loblaws and they are jarred not canned.

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                    Ediblethoughts RE: smr714 Jul 7, 2008 03:23 PM

                    And I just found them on Grocerygateway. I'll order this next time I buy food through there to test it out. Thanks!

                  2. Ediblethoughts RE: Ediblethoughts Oct 19, 2008 01:18 PM

                    I keep meaning to post thanks to Pescatarian and smr---I bought the Aurora canned tomato puree and it has worked out very well for me. I still need to try to find the Yummy food market in North York for the other product suggested below.

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