532182 Tue Jun 24 08:29:44 -0700 2008 11 34 Wine 0 3808554 We are fortunate enough to be dining with a friend at a restaurant where her fiance is the sous chef. I want to bring a gift. I was thinking of a bottle of wine, red perhaps? However, I don't drink, and I only have access to Beverages and More - do you have any recommendations? I am willing to spend up to $75. Thanks! Tue Jun 24 08:29:46 -0700 2008 14107 Cindy 1 3810199 Cindy, You need not spend "up to $75" to get a nice bottle of wine, but your post begs two -- at least two -- questions: 1. Do you know if the couple even like wine? After all, you wrote that you THINKING about it, and then said "red, PERHAPS" [emphasis added.] 1a. Presuming they do like wine, do you have any idea what kind of wine they like? 2. I gotta ask: why do you "only have access to Beveranges, and more!"? Tue Jun 24 14:42:24 -0700 2008 3808554 28122 zin1953 2 3810946 Once you've thought about Jason's questions, you might want to do a bit of sleuthing, regarding the gentleman's wine preferences. A few subtle questions in passing should reveal a lot. A predisposition to, say Barolos, would tell you a lot. With your budget, you can find some very special wines. I know little of Bev-Mo, but think that they have more than cheaper everyday wines. Hunt Tue Jun 24 18:58:37 -0700 2008 3810199 11329 Bill Hunt 1 3812192 Thanks, zin and Bill. I've heard the friend mentioning wine, so I know they drink, but not what. My friend is out of town until we meet for dinner next week, so I'm not able to subtly discern any preferences. Maybe buy 2 bottles, one red and one white? I only meant Bevmo in that I didn't have special access to any wineries. I also can get to Safeway, Whole Foods, Trader Joes and Walmart. :D Thanks again in advance for any advice/help. Wed Jun 25 09:48:38 -0700 2008 3808554 14107 Cindy 2 3812250 Whole foods here is carrying Honig at $32 a bottle which is an absolute steal. A sous chef will almost always be trying to add to a book collection so a gift certificate for a local or on line book store might be a solid choice as well. Another option would be a Williams Sonoma gift card. Sous Chefs do not need alcahol encouragement......LOL Wed Jun 25 10:03:51 -0700 2008 3812192 155549 Docsknotinn 3 3815345 Thanks, Doc. I like the gift card idea - WS has lots of neat stuff. Will also check out the Honig. Thanks! Thu Jun 26 08:10:07 -0700 2008 3812250 14107 Cindy 2 3813172 Cindy, 1) I don't know where you live in California, but I must presume there are better places to shop. Give me a city, and I'll give you several alternatives close by. 2) Since the couple is engaged, my first thought would be to celebrate with a gift of [French] Champagne. From BevMo's website, I'd consider the following wines: anything from Billecart-Salmon, but especially their Brut Rose. Charles Heidsieck n.v. Brut Reserve Delamotte nv Brut Gosset nv Brut Grande Reserve (not their "regular" Brut) Heidsieck Monopole nv Brut "Blue Top" Larmandier-Bernier nv Brut Blanc de Blancs 1er Cru anything from Pierre Gimonnet All are recommended, especially the last two, but ONLY if they know something about Champagne. They are less well-known among casual drinkers, and so you may want to consider Veuve Clicquot or Moet & Chandon -- something known to all -- as it may "impress" more when the see the label. Cheers, Jason Wed Jun 25 13:30:24 -0700 2008 3812192 28122 zin1953 3 3815352 Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed reply, Jason. I live in Novato but work in Oakland, so either of those two locales would work. I will also check into the champagne - sounds fun! Thu Jun 26 08:11:04 -0700 2008 3813172 14107 Cindy 4 3815770 Good heavens! You're surrounded by GREAT wine shops! To name but a few . . . Thu Jun 26 09:58:44 -0700 2008 3815352 28122 zin1953 5 3818458 On a slightly tangential note relating to Jason's post-- I don't think I'll be alone on this board in encouraging you to shop at independent wine shops when you're looking for wine, for yourself or otherwise. The staff at these smaller operations is almost always possessed of far greater wine knowledge than anyone who's working at BevMo. As such, they may be able to show you wines that will deliver bang for the buck and a bit more uniquity than anything you'll find at the big box stores. Plus it's good for the local economy! Fri Jun 27 05:31:45 -0700 2008 3815770 185225 Pigloader 1 3818571 So far no bad offerings.Yes to the independent wine store.As a trained chef the gift card is a maybe,we use trade $ suppliers.But the engagement/thank you gift,why not divide the $ in a way that you have a very nice bottle and a really nice stem or three or ?.W&S has great wine stems ect,so will most wine merchants. Fri Jun 27 06:24:57 -0700 2008 3808554 203919 lcool 2 3826348 Thanks for that idea, but I think that might be a good engagement gift, right? I'll check out these local wine merchants, thanks all! Mon Jun 30 09:17:35 -0700 2008 3818571 14107 Cindy