53211 Tue Feb 18 03:40:24 -0800 2003 41 27 General Chowhounding Topics 0 272779 Which Diet soda's don't contain Aspartame, and do contain Splenda? Any ideas? Thanks Tue Feb 18 03:40:24 -0800 2003 0 Phal Gus 1 272781 All fountain soda is without Aspartame (as a start for you), even those diet sodas that contain it in bottles and can form. Splenda has a web site and lists drinks containing their products; I see Diet Rite sodas (products of the Royal Crown Company) are listed there. Link: http://www.splenda.com Tue Feb 18 10:23:52 -0800 2003 272779 0 Elisa Davis 2 272784 Diet Rite also has some new flavors. I just bought some Tangerine and some Peach soda, but I haven't tried them yet. I'll let you know how they are... Tue Feb 18 11:24:30 -0800 2003 272781 0 Jane 3 272801 It seems to me Diet Rite isn't always easy to find. Which grocery chain seems to have the best selection? Also is Diet Rite Canadian? Thanks everyone. Tue Feb 18 14:05:21 -0800 2003 272784 0 Phal Gus 4 272808 Unfortunately, I'm in Northern California so I can't help you with finding Diet Rite locally. Small gourmet grocery stores seem to carry a decent selection up here. Good luck. Tue Feb 18 14:30:22 -0800 2003 272801 0 Jane 5 272819 So many people on this board are so lazy -- expecting others to do their footwork for them when there's nothing involved that's more difficult or time-consuming (virtually none) than a Net search. Here's the Diet Rite web site. And, if you can't be bothered to read the whole thing, you can find a local dealer by caling (800) 696-5891. And bless you, Elisa, for trying to help these folks! Link: http://www.dietrite.com/index_flash.cfm Tue Feb 18 15:38:11 -0800 2003 272808 0 TE 6 272822 TE, in the future please refrain from calling people names. It's mean, inappropriate and incites people. I'd like to think the latter was not your intention. People come here to ask questions and gain knowledge from those who may possess more information or expertise, Elisa represented herself as a person of specific knowledge regarding fountain diet drinks so she has opened herself up for questioning. What you've done is no better than what you claim the other posters have done. Tue Feb 18 15:57:11 -0800 2003 272819 0 let's be nice please. 7 272828 This thread is definitely not about food in Los Angeles. It's not really about food either, so please move further discussion to the Not about Food message board. And let's keep it friendly, please. Thanks, everyone. Tue Feb 18 16:18:57 -0800 2003 272822 2 The Chowhound Team 8 272893 I always forget to use the general Chowhound's board for stuff like this and I apologize. I do find it funny however that this is biggest discussion I've ever brought up. YES aspartame or whatever is food, how dare you, Chow Team. We for whatever reasons care and have oppinions about this so let us speak, and yet thank you for being there to moderate, I hate to suppose you edited "censored" somebody... Wed Feb 19 02:31:49 -0800 2003 272828 0 Phal Gus 6 272824 Jane, thank you so much. Truly!!! Tue Feb 18 16:02:34 -0800 2003 272819 0 Elisa 2 272788 - All fountain soda is without Aspartame - Even Diet Coke? Do you have any reference for this? Tue Feb 18 11:51:31 -0800 2003 272781 0 Curious 3 272789 Yes, aspartame is very unstable once wet and quickly loses its sweetness. Bottles and cans have a fast enough turnover that it isn't an issue, but fountain syrup can take a long time between the time it's produced and when it's consumed. I worked at the Pepsi-Cola Company during the time that aspartame was first approved by the FDA, my work was in the fountain business in particular. My guess is you can find out more from the Coca-Cola website if you don't want to take my word for it. Tue Feb 18 12:32:49 -0800 2003 272788 0 Elisa Davis 4 272798 The statement from the Coca Cola web site contradicts what you originlly said, though; fountain Diet Coke has a blend of aspartame and saccharin. So someone who is avoiding aspartams should not assume that it isn't present in fountain sodas. Tue Feb 18 13:46:43 -0800 2003 272789 0 Caitlin McGrath 5 272802 I just had to go re-read it...and I think they are just hedging their bets (in case some aspartame creeps into the mix and someone is has PKU problems). Aspartame is a bad bet in the sort of storage conditions that are normal for fountain syrup. BTW, the soda companies are just as happy to use saccharine instead of aspartame, as the price differential is enormous. Tue Feb 18 14:09:46 -0800 2003 272798 0 Elisa Davis 6 272807 You seem to be asserting again that there's no aspartame in fountain Diet Coke when your own reference contradicts you. Do you have any new references? Tue Feb 18 14:30:03 -0800 2003 272802 0 Curious 7 272812 I have a Diet Coke can in my hand right now. Aspartame is the third ingredient listed: Carbonated water, caramel color, aspartame, phosphoric acid, potassium benzoate (to protect taste), natural flavors, citric acid, caffeine. Tue Feb 18 15:02:14 -0800 2003 272807 0 Jane 8 272813 Jane, if you are addressing Curious' post, the issue is with *fountain* diet sodas, not canned. Tue Feb 18 15:12:09 -0800 2003 272812 0 Pea 8 272814 Yes, canned Diet Coke (and canned most diet sodas) contain aspartame. It's *fountain* diet soda that doesn't, although apparently the Coca Cola company says there may be some in some of their fountain syrup although I can't see why they'd bother as it loses its sweetness by the time it reaches the consumer in almost all instances. (Fountain soda is the stuff you get at restaurants and fast food places that doesn't come out of a can or a bottle but is a mixture of syrup and carbonated water, mixed right there at the place it's served) Tue Feb 18 15:12:33 -0800 2003 272812 0 Elisa Davis 7 272816 Yes, I just said I reread it and it's true that there may be some aspartame in it. Is there some reason you're so unpleasant? Tue Feb 18 15:13:45 -0800 2003 272807 0 Elisa Davis 8 272820 You wrote that you, " worked at the Pepsi-Cola Company during the time that aspartame was first approved by the FDA, (and your) work was in the fountain business in particular. " and yet you seem extremely confused about the very product you represented. What exactly did you do at Pepsi? You may not like being questioned but you have made statements of fact here on this board regarding all fountain diet sodas, not just Pepsi. And yet you keep posting statements that contradict your own assertions. Tue Feb 18 15:40:16 -0800 2003 272816 0 aspartanot 9 272823 you know, I wrote that, was questioned, and bothered to do the research to answer the query. and then I admitted I was wrong. what exactly are you asking me to do now? if you're allergic to aspartame, do your own research. you should do that anyway. I'm out of this thread. (and I worked in finance in the food service division at Pepsi, the decision to use aspartame was a HUGE issue as there were both product stability problems and high costs involved...and none of these issues has changed in the intervening years; despite the fact that aspartame sweetened beverages are almost universally considered to be superior tasting to those sweetened with saccharine, most--I thought all, but I learned differently from Coke--fountain soda continues to be sweetened with saccharine. Perhaps Splenda will prove to be more stable as a sweetener and the economics or market forces will change diet soda formulations. Meanwhile, people who are aspartame sensitive should be doing their own research directly from manufacturers. I mean, why even believe the quotation I said is a quotation? Go to the Coca Cola site yourself, it's way fun to navigate through the multiple pop up java windows that provide no useful product ingredient information.) Tue Feb 18 15:57:35 -0800 2003 272820 0 Elisa 10 272825 And yet you don't know if the product contains aspartame? Hmmm....something fishy here. Tue Feb 18 16:02:54 -0800 2003 272823 0 hmmmmm 11 272826 FWIW, I lost about thirty pounds in part thanks to Aspartame. It is the sweetener in a milk shake powder produced by Health Management Resources (HMR), recommended by my doctor (who used it himself) and chosen by many hospitals (including Cedars, I think) for their weight loss programs. I never had the slightest problem with the Aspartame and, after doing some research, am starting to think that the numbers who are allergic to it may not be so great after all. Of course there are those who oppose chemicals in any form. Can't say as I blame them (just as long as they let me alone) Tue Feb 18 16:12:29 -0800 2003 272825 0 Lord Lipitor 12 272838 aspartame has some specific warnings required in its product labeling by the powers that be. yes, the numbers are small, but if you're one of those individuals, it's very important. pls don't doubt that there are real health issues here that have been shown in the clinic just because you're not affected. Tue Feb 18 17:39:41 -0800 2003 272826 0 vn 8 272821 I'm not being unpleasant; I'm just trying to figure out if I can drink Diet Coke from a fountain. (Aspartame gives me headaches.) And your post said that the Coca-Cola website shouldn't be believed since you say they are just "hedging their bets" as any aspartame in the fountain drinks would be due to accidental contamination. Tue Feb 18 15:40:56 -0800 2003 272816 0 Curious 3 272791 This is from the Coca-Cola website (easily the most annoying website I've ever visited--worse than porn sites you stumble over but didn't mean to visit LOL): "Because aspartame by itself is heat and pH sensitive (meaning it loses its sweetness over time), the concentrated fountain syrup causes aspartame to lose its sweetness faster than it would in a finished beverage. Fountain diet drinks, therefore, are sweetened with a blend of aspartame and saccharin to assure maximum product quality." Tue Feb 18 12:44:53 -0800 2003 272788 0 Elisa Davis 2 272800 I can't have anything with aspartame in it myself. This isn't diet soda, but maybe you'll find this a good alternative: The Switch. It's 100% carbonated fruit juice without any corn syrup, added sugar, etc. I really enjoy the apricot peach. The drinks are a little hard to find (I tried it at a volleyball event) and their locator online didn't help me much, but maybe they ship? I've emailed them to find out. I do know that they have it at Mongolian BBQ in Manhattan Beach. Link: http://www.switchbev.com/index2.html Tue Feb 18 13:54:06 -0800 2003 272781 0 wow i'm a dog 1 272818 I will bring this discussion to a (relatively) local realm. I have found the most delicious diet drink containing Splenda. I haven't checked for Aspartame but I suspect it doesn't have it. The brand is ICE BOTANICALS made by the Talking Rain Company. They come out of Portlnd Oregon and are available (not always, sadly) locally only at Costo. They make a very lightly carbonated and a non-carbonated variety. Link: http://www.talkingrain.com Tue Feb 18 15:30:43 -0800 2003 272779 0 Slow Foodie 1 272889 I don't know exactly if there's any Aspartame in it, but it's sweetened with Splenda, and tastes great.. It's the Diet Hansen. I buy them in bulk from Costco. They have amazing flavors, like Ginger, Strawberry Kiwi, Tangerine, etc. If I remember correctly it says something like "all natural" too. I remember they use natural, not artificial flavoring. So maybe you can give it a try. ;) Hope this helps. Wed Feb 19 01:56:46 -0800 2003 272779 0 oli 1 272899 yes i wouldnt drink anything with aspratame in it either if you read any books on it it causes brain cancer and a load of other problems for the body look for the book excitotoxins that kill do a search you will see monsanto who produces it is in for alot of lawsuits down the road micheal j fox was a spokesman for diet soda and look at him now Wed Feb 19 11:10:17 -0800 2003 272779 0 noaspratame 2 272963 All the accusations against aspartame are essentially unsubstantiated. Wed Feb 19 21:13:52 -0800 2003 272899 0 ironmom 3 5015047 Thanks for saying that, its unpopular but it's fact. Tue Sep 08 19:17:26 -0700 2009 272963 105625 EWSflash 1 272916 Most of the Diet Rite sodas do not contain aspartame and use splenda. I'm not sure if this is true for all their flavors, but they advertise this fact on the front of the can. Their diet peach soda is quite yummy. Wed Feb 19 14:25:06 -0800 2003 272779 0 norjah 1 273375 Not really a soda, but diet Snapples use sucralose for sweetner. Mon Feb 24 17:11:56 -0800 2003 272779 0 torta basilica 1 4526753 Hello from Pam in Oregon..Please can anyone help me find any diet drinks with no aspartame in it i found out half of my health probs from it and i cant have frutose also and with IBS hard to find anything to help me i tried diet rite yuk yuk lol..I need some help in the west not a easy find i have read all of this page alot of good answears about aspartame..I will keep looking and nice to see a good site like this hope i meet people from all over..Have a good day or nite... Sun Mar 22 01:41:28 -0700 2009 272779 276389 PamB 2 4526763 i'd contact the hansen's soda folks and find out where their stuff is sold in oregon. in particular, i recommend their diet cherry flavor. Sun Mar 22 02:22:36 -0700 2009 4526753 11935 westsidegal 3 5006311 I don't know where in Oregon you are, but if there's a Winco Foods near you, they carry Hansen's. Fri Sep 04 18:41:25 -0700 2009 4526763 220968 mattwarner 1 4527144 Diet Coca-Cola (Coke)with Splenda, for example. Sun Mar 22 08:29:57 -0700 2009 272779 89472 DrBruin 1 4999766 Fountaiin coke diet drinks contain aspartame, it is listed on the incredient list on the Coke web site. Wed Sep 02 13:02:28 -0700 2009 272779 1106449 Jberry2010 2 5000516 Vigil's diet sodas tend to be sweetened with stevia. At least I know the cola is (never really looked at the other flavors) Wed Sep 02 17:45:25 -0700 2009 4999766 24492 jumpingmonk 1 5023645 Ran across this Zevia in a store today: http://www.zevia.com/ Did not try, though, because they were over $6 for a 6-pack. Sweetened with Stevia and Erythritol. Fri Sep 11 19:10:57 -0700 2009 272779 40162 CrazyOne 2 5028787 I tried their root beer. Somewhat weird but in a sort of good way (the stevia note goes reasonably well with root beer flavors). Mon Sep 14 10:37:37 -0700 2009 5023645 13709 buttertart