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Artichoke Pizza-the Secret

Finally figured out how to get two hot freshly made slices in 5 minutes. 1.Park car across the street. 2. Go Sunday night around 6pm 3.Wait for absolute drenching torrential downpour preferably with thunder and lightning. 4.Stroll right in and get incredible slices.

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  1. Or pre order a pie! Fresh as can be and you dont have to wait in line...

    1. GG, does this method still work if you don't have a car? ; )

      Preordering whole pies does work, but then you have to get a whole pie.

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      1. re: racer x

        the heavy rain thing didnt work for me the other afternoon. still waited a good 15-20 minutes outside under my umbrella during a pretty good downpour and the line just grew longer. rain isnt going to keep diehard pizza lovers away.
        and it was worth every minute.

        1. re: racer x

          yes, but trust me, this pizza is incredible leftover..throw it in the toaster oven on oven..let it get nice and crispy!

          1. re: racer x

            How much is a whole pie? Also, since the hours are so vague, does the phone ring and ring when they're not open or is there some sort of message? Or do you have to walk in and order the pie and wait?

            1. re: esyle

              The round pie is $15 and square is $20. You can call and order, but they don't have a machine, or at least didn't the last time I called. You can also walk in and order it and then come back. Actually, the last 2 times I went and there were big lines, the guy at the front kept shouting out, anyone who wants a whole pie can come to the front and buy one. Not sure why they kept doing it, but one of the times I took advantage.

              1. re: offthebeatenpath1

                Were we the only ones who hated their pizza? We tried various kinds and didn't finish any. The spinach tasted sour and was gloppy. Crust was thick, burned and tasteless. I'm baffled.

                1. re: tsiblis

                  The pizza is gloppy, no matter what kind you get. I am starting to wain from it and will probably start going to other slice joints. The novelty has worn off of having something different. The crust is on the thick side and I much prefer the square to the round. The artichoke is too rich for me. It is a good treat to split, perhaps with 3 friends.

                  1. re: offthebeatenpath1

                    I won't go all the way to hate, but I didn't think the artichoke slice was all that. The crust was...monotonous? Too doughy for me, and without any crunch or char or something to give it a little zing. The topping was basically artichoke dip - again, kind of bland. I also tasted the plain slice, which I liked better, but I thought the sauce was too sweet. At 7pm on Friday night, the wait was under 10:00. Should I go back for the square slice? is the bloom just off this rose?

                    1. re: small h

                      The square slices are so much better than the others, I can't see myself ever ordering anything else. I wasn't a fan of the artichoke pizza, but the plain pizza was still very solid.

                      I've been waiting for backlash against Artichoke on here. Any time pizza becomes too popular too fast, there will be a big backlash of nay-sayers, but it's still solid pizza.

                      1. re: heWho

                        I agree but even the square (my favorite) has its issues. I find that they burn (not merely char) the crust so badly on the square (which is often thinner than the round and the ridiculouusly doughy artichoke) that I have to order 3 square slices to get 2 salvageable slices.

                      2. re: small h

                        Ok, I've now been back for the heralded square slice. Gracious, it is a fine thing. Redolent with basil, just the right amount of cheese, faultless sauce, and a crust just this side of burnt (which is the gold standard of crust, according to me). My only complaint is that my companion ate like half of it after saying he wasn't really in the mood for pizza.

                    2. re: tsiblis

                      I agree--the artichoke wasn't bad, but it tasted rather like campbells soup on a pizza. Not worth the wait. Still want to try the regular slice, as it would be nice to find a fresh slice in the area.

                  2. re: esyle

                    i think a whole pie was like 16 or something. the phone will just ring if they're not there i believe.
                    if you go there and order, you will have to wait in the line to do so which can be up to 45 minutes!!

                2. Have to say, this pizza is massively overrated. If I wanted artichoke and spinach dip I'd order it somewhere else, not ask for it slopped onto heavy, overcooked pizza dough.

                  1. Followed your advice with a few variations. 1. Parked in front. 2. Went Sunday at around 7pm. 3. Waited for predicted thunderstorms - none came, so went across the street to the Qi Gong joint and got a GREAT 1 hour massage. 4. Staggered out of Qi Gong joint and saw that line at Artichoke was only 4 people so I finally tried it. Got the plain slice. After the first bite or two I thought it was really delicious, but by the time I finished it I wasn't quite as thrilled. I'm not sure why. Don't get me wrong. It was really yummy, but I guess I'm used to more pedestrian NY pizza. When I feel like "pizza," I'll probably go elsewhere, but I'm sure there'll be times I feel like "Artichoke" and be perfectly happy going back. Ahh, but that massage...

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                    1. re: foodluvngal

                      Did you try square or round? I really think the square is the way to go.

                      1. re: foodluvngal

                        foodluvngal, I agree it wasn't memorable for me either. I had a square and an artichoke slice. The square had decent flavor, but the crust was way too overcooked. I usually enjoy square slices, but this was rock solid. As for the artichoke, it again was plaqued by poor crust/dough. In this case it was the only thing holding this pizza together because of all the artichoke dip thrown on top. I wish I had some chips to dip into the pizza.

                        1. re: foodluvngal

                          foodluvngal: lol literally at #s 1-4.

                          1. re: foodluvngal

                            Huh. I live in the building next door and always thought that the massage place was a front for other . . . . activities. They've now opened a 24 hour juice/bubble tea place in the front of their space, so if you time it right you can get a massage, a restorative drink and a slice in one fell swoop.

                          2. The more I learn about the *constant* inconsistencies encountered with the pizza crust[s] at Artichoke, the more I seem to shy away. I thought these were seasoned pizza-makers whose competency I didn't have to question. Why can't these guys make a consistent good (not burnt) pizza? Not to mention, the gates are down more often than they are up. Seems like they've got to get it together yet.

                            1. artichoke has moments of greatness, some slices I have there are incredible, at worst pretty good. in time they'll learn more and more from their mistakes, keep in mind they opened just 4 months ago (in comparison to about 40 years for Di Fara). Though Di Fara's is the standard, this is a fantastic pizza joint in downtown manhattan.

                              I like to say that the force is strong with Artichoke, but it is not yet a master.

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                              1. re: silencespeak

                                I may have to give it another shot, but later in the year. The crust and overall density of the slices was not enjoyable.

                                http://always-eating.blogspot.com/

                              2. Last weekend, after a month or two of trying, my girlfriend finally convinced me to walk over to Artichoke and try it out. I had been quasi-interested myself, but previous descriptions of the pizza didn't hold enough appeal to coax me out of my way (or onto a line). Anyway, the short version is that we probably won't bother going back anytime soon.

                                Crab -- This was actually pretty good, with a thin crust, nice little hits of ricotta, and an overall crabby flavor permeating the entire slice

                                Regular -- Eating this reminded me of the slices I used to get at Rose's while waiting for a train at Penn Station, mostly because of the spice mix in the sauce. Crust was too thick, though, and they burned it.

                                Artichoke -- Who's enjoying this? It was like eating a hunk of memory foam with canned soup poured over top.

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                                1. re: big o

                                  the last description of the artichoke slice is great. This shows the lack of consistency in their pizza making, 1 thing slice (crab), 2 thick slices...

                                2. Every time I go to try this place out, I end up walking away for one reason or another--line too long, line not moving..... I was off from work yesteray, so i went over around noon and they weren't serving, they said come back later. After reading these reviews, maybe I'm not missing anything? but I'm VERY interested in the massage place across the street from Artichoke--thanks for that tip.

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                                  1. re: howboy

                                    You're not missing anything...

                                  2. Went for the first time last night @ around 11. Line was 7 people deep and got my slices in 10 minutes. Tried the crab, artichoke & regular. The regular slice was the best of the three. The fresh basil & charred crust (not too thick) made it above average. The artichoke slice was way too thick for my taste & the overpowering flavor I got was that of those little chicken boullion cubes you disolve in hot water. (Anyone else notice that?)Strange. The crab slice was pretty good, but again, too thick for me. I'd go back for the regular slice again, but I wouldn't go out of my way for it.

                                    1. The artichoke pizza is overrated in my opinion. It is neither especially flavorful nor original. The regular pizza has been inconsistent: I tried it once and it was mediocre; I tried it last night coming home from a bar at 1:30 AM and it was very flavorful and good - nice mix of herbs and spices in the sauce and fresh basil as the topping. I took a bite of my friend's crab pizza and it was nothing special. Overall, I'd go back for the regular pizza but not for anything else.

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                                      1. re: crisp444

                                        Have you tried the square?

                                        1. re: a_and_w

                                          The squares are the reason I keep coming back and waiting. Last night I had a regular while waiting for the square. Scored 2 molten square slices and for once let them cool off rather than having to reroof my mouth as usual. Appreciating the full flavor and lucking out that they weren't as charred as is normallly the case, I came to realize that the sauce may be different from the regular and had a distinctly porky taste to it which I believe is DiFara's secret to his square sauce. Anyone have any idea? In summary, the squares when fresh and not burned are worthy of DiFara's comparison.

                                          1. re: guttergourmet

                                            Worthy of a comparison to DiFara? I will have to try this square slice ASAP!

                                            1. re: crisp444

                                              I'm sorry but this pales in comparison to DiFara. Crust is overcooked and way too thick and the cheese is slopped on there. Not sure what the hype is about, but to each his own.

                                              http://always-eating.blogspot.com/

                                              1. re: ginsbera

                                                I think it compares favorably. What are some squares in Manhattan that live up to the hype, in your view, ginsbera?

                                                1. re: a_and_w

                                                  I'm generally one to choose a round over a square, but I've had better square slices at a wide selection of places, from Joe's on Carmine to even Krunch Pizza (shockingly) on 3rd Ave in Midtown. I've had better square slices in Park Slope/Prospect Heights and even where I grew up a bit upstate.

                                                  My gripe with Artichoke is that the crust was so thick, so overcooked that it was not simple to just bite through it. It was the hardest crust I've ever encountered. Maybe a fluke? Possibly, but not acceptable. The sauce and cheese were good, not great, but not worth the price, line or hype in my opinion.

                                                  I admit, sometimes DiFara comes out more burnt than I'd like, but it's never so thick and crunchy that I actually have trouble chewing it.

                                                  1. re: ginsbera

                                                    My square crust wasn't as crunchy as you describe -- that would indeed be unacceptable. But I personally don't think the squares at Joe's are in the same league, certainly where the sauce and cheese are concerned.

                                                    1. re: a_and_w

                                                      Maybe, but if you cant chew it, then it's bad no matter what's on top. I also had the same problem with the Artichoke slice, not only did I find the topping more appropriate in a bowl with some chips and vegetables to dip into it, but the crust was equally thick and overcooked.

                                      2. Is said square slice the same as a grandma slice?

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                                        1. re: 2slices

                                          I think so. It's a sicilian pie. I remember Bleecker pizza calls it a grandma slice. and it's the way my grandma makes it...

                                          1. re: erin07nyc

                                            a grandma slice is usually thin-crusted (although square) with tomatoes or sauce, cheese, olive oil and garlic. a sicilian slice is typically much thicker and with the usual cheese and sauce topping.

                                            1. re: nativeNYer

                                              Yeah they are totally different. Sicilian is gross IMO, never had a good one.

                                              My question is, is the square artichoke slice grandma?

                                              I love grandma pie, there's a place right under the Kosciusko next to the UPS depot, Marchini's. They make goodn.

                                              The only place I know in Manhattan that sells grandma is Maffei on 23rd and 6th, cant remember if it's any good.

                                              1. re: 2slices

                                                No slices at Artichoke are grandma slices. And neither the artichoke slice nor the crab slice are square. The only square is the sicilian slice.

                                                1. re: 2slices

                                                  go to new town pizza on w77 and broadway for a great sicilian and grandma slice. ask them to make the sicilian slice well done. the slice is thick and the dough bounces back into shape after you bite into it - sooooo soft and the cheese is really good.
                                                  i agree that, in most other places, the sicilian slice can be gross. the grandma slice is really great there as well. the place is a typically take-out place with about 6 tables but the pizza is great.

                                            2. re: 2slices

                                              Artichoke serves a sicilian slice. Grandma is usually thinner and has less cheese. For two excellent (but very different) takes on grandma pizza, I highly recommend Rocco's on 7th Ave and Lazarra's on 38th.