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Flushing Mall (39th Ave.) Updates or Reviews?

I stumbled across a May posting (buried in another thread) by "kathryn" which presented a valuable link to the food court listing on the mall's web site and links to previous discussions of the mall, of which Lau's post of September 24th last year is the most detailed, but mostly an eyeball report. The Flushing Mall seems to have a lot of chowish potential, though it's overshadowed by the more exotic and admittedly more fascinating Main Street malls, and it probably deserves an updateable thread of its own.

Karthry's post is at:

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/49711...

The mall's official food store listing, rearranged into what is left to right order to the best of my recollection and with translations of Chinese characters added by me is as such:

Downstairs food court:

廟口小吃 (miao kou=temple xiao chi) Mr. Lin
可麗餅 (ke li bing) QQ Crepes Corp.
鄉厨 (xiang chu=country kithcen) Liping Guo Ji
漢城 (Hancheng=Seoul) HR New York Inc.
永和 (yong he) House of Yun Ho Inc.
火锅店 (huo guo dian) Louis Food Inc*
水霸 (shui ba) S & C Food & Beverage Inc.
阿宗(a zong=Ay Chung) Louis Food Inc*
.鸭灞 (ya ba) Aba Taiwaness Restaurant Inc.
成都小吃 (Chengdu xiao chi) ChengDu Snack/Bai Li
LanZhou Noodle House

*These two venues combined as one listing on the Mall's web site

Main floor:
Chinese Korean Dumpling Store
Tea Shop 168

Any reports of what's good there, or any updates of the list of venues? For reference, I've posted a link to my photolog of the Mall Food Court shops a year ago. In the summer of 2007 there was a Malaysian Place and a Guangxi Place about where the Korean place is listed now. Are they gone?

http://tinyurl.com/3gbdwy

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Flushing Mall Food Court
133-31 39th Ave, Queens, NY 11354

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  1. I like the Lan Zhou Noodle House since they cut the noodles in front of you, then cook them. And they're very good.

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    1. re: Chandavkl

      That's actually the only place at that mall I've eaten at, to date.

       
      1. re: Xiao Yang

        S&C has excellent Taiwanese shaved ice, among other goodies. Better than any I've had in California. I'm not into spicy but I do remember a very tasty sliced beef and noodle dish at the Cheng Du place.

        1. re: Chandavkl

          "S&C has excellent Taiwanese shaved ice..."

          Is this the place that's pretty much smack dead center of the food court? If so, I was there recently. My wife ordered a shaved ice dessert that came in a gigantic bowl. Lots of shaved ice, multi-colored, gelatinous objects floating here and there, and a baseball-sized mound of ice cream ascending from the middle like a small mushroom cloud. Needless to say, this dessert was pretty extreme, perhaps the most surreal looking I've ever seen. I'm pretty sure this is the S&C place you're mentioning, as one of the signs in English read "Taiwanese Shaved Ice."

          I also made a mental note to return for the hand-pulled noodles in the back corner.
          P.

          1. re: Polecat

            That's the place. I sure hope you helped your wife finish it off. It's unfair to make one person eat up the whole thing.

            1. re: Chandavkl

              oh good stuff...i forgot that its there, ive been looking for a good taiwanese shaved ice place, i always end up going to korean ones b/c there isnt too many taiwanese ones out here

          2. re: Chandavkl

            thanks so much, great tip! I really do miss the place "fortuna" that used to be on the corner of roosevelt and prince . . .

      2. I just posted on Karthry's thread last night, but I'll re-mention it here. I found some really big A** dumplings (pot stickers) at Yong He. They are a little more expensive than the $1/4 or 5 dumplings, but they are worth the extra couple of dollars. Bigger and meatier. This is my favorite dumpling place in the city. Oh all this talk about dumplings and I didn't mention the name.

        永和 (yong he) House of Yun Ho Inc.

        #6 on the menu

        or say the phrase "wor teep" and they will get it. The menu is all in chinese.

        The stall to the left of it has pork burgers. It looks like the lamb burger from the XIan guy at Golden Mall, but I think I would stick with the one at Golden Mall.

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        1. re: designerboy01

          It was your post that brought kathryn's thread to my attention, and inspired this one because I think the Flushing Mall needs a thread of its own.

          Is Yong He Cantonese? "Wor tip" is definitely the Cantonese pronunciation for guo tie, and what you describe is exactly what every Cantonese walkaway dim sum counter in San Francisco produces: grossly overweight pot stickers generally filled with only minced pork and cabbage and, to my taste, a bit on the dry side.

          Isn't Yong He the name of a Taiwanese chain (and a Shanghai copycat "Yong He Da Wang") which features soy milk-based breakfast fare?

          1. re: Xiao Yang

            The dumplings here looked good enough for me to do a double take and place an order. Unfortunately I found them to be mediocre in taste.

            They might serve soy milk breakfast as well, since I recall spotting youtiao there.

            1. re: Joe MacBu

              That is why they got a bottle of vinegar, chili sauce, and some other condiments so you can adjust your taste.

            2. re: Xiao Yang

              That place is definitely not Cantonese. I just like dumplings. Most Chinese restaurants will understand some Cantonese (its good for business to know bot Mandarin and Cantonese). Its a greasy spoon, but I really like their dumplings.

              As for your comments on Yong He, I have no clue. I didn't eat my way through Taiwan yet.

              To be honest I find it hard to find something really good to eat at the Mall. So far its the dumplings at this place for me.

              1. re: designerboy01

                I'd have to agree. I did like the noodle soups at the place to the right of the food court, but I haven't really enjoyed anything else. Haven't tried the dumplings, though.

                1. re: Miss Needle

                  OK, I'll give that a try. The slushys look good but its too big for me to finish and I got to watch how I spend my calories. I did see a rice plate going around that looked pretty good. But I don't think I would go all the way from Manhattan to there for a rice plate. I know better ones in the city.

                2. re: designerboy01

                  yeah yong he is a famous dou jiang / breakfast place in taiwan...but the name has been ripped off a million times even in taiwan, like in LA there are a whole bunch of places called yong he or yung ho (written in english, but i believe all the same in chinese) although some of those places are really good

                  i bet this place serves dou jiang...i remember walking by it last time i was there

            3. It's been a good year since I've been, but me and the missus sure are fond of the sliced tendon and the dan dan noodles at the Chengdu place. Haven't had better anywhere, not at Little Pepper, not at the midtown Szechuan Gourmet, not at Spicy and Tasty.

              1. I enjoy the custard filled hot cakes (delimanjoo) sold by the vendor in the area by the massage chairs and cookware. They can be rather addictive.

                Here's a description of the cakes (when they used to be sold on Lafayette/Canal):
                http://www.villagevoice.com/nyclife/0...

                In the main food area, there's a stall towards the left which sells takoyaki. A weird find since the proprietors don't seem Japanese. I prefer the ones at Otafuku instead.

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                1. re: Joe MacBu

                  Yes, I saw that shop last summer, but it doesn't seem to be on the Mall's list of shops. It makes me wonder if the Mall's website is out of date.

                  I understand that takoyaki is a huge fad in Korea, and, thanks to the Korean soaps, has also spread to China. Does the takoyaki place at the mall serve them with mayonnaise? Here is my puzzled wife's first encounter with takoyaki from a stall in Shanghai in late 2006:

                   
                   
                  1. re: Xiao Yang

                    It has been a while since I had it there. I recall it having the mayo and the brown sauce as well as the seaweed flakes (not sure about the bonito flakes). The problem was the the balls themselves were not very good. They tasted stale even though they were straight out of the griddle. I think the octopus was also very chewy. The ones at Otafuku are sublime.

                2. btw has anyone tried that korean / chinese dumpling place? someone told me its really good

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                  1. re: Lau

                    II heard the same. In fact that day when I visited the food court my intention was to try the Korean/Chinese dumpling place. But when I walked by i
                    and saw someone order it. By looking at it, it didn't look like anything special. I caved in and went for the big dumplings in the food court instead. I didn't eat all day and I knew that wasn't going to satisfy my dumpling fix. Oh well, another day another dumpling....

                    1. re: Lau

                      yeah those are great. 18 for . . . I can't remember how much (cheap), but just classic boiled dumplings, served with a nice dipping sauce (korean chili powder flakes in it) and some nice kimchi, goes well with the dumplings. the pork is the best, they have about 7 or 8 other varieties. also known as the "Fountain Dumplings".

                      1. re: bigjeff

                        18? Maybe I saw the person order something else. OK I got my guns fired up now. Thanks bigjeff.

                        1. re: designerboy01

                          I tried them today. It was served to me nice with the kimchee and hot sauce, but I didn't find them to be anything special. It was kind of funny because the women spoke to me in Korean then have her a blank stare, then she tried Mandarin and I replied a little broken, then she asked me in English if I was Japanese. I thought that dumpling meal was filling, but I didn't really find anything special (#4 on the menu). Its something I can easliy make at home, and I keep a better stash of kimchee and hot sauce then they do. It was pleasant, but I don't think I will go back there again. Maybe I just like fried dumplings more. That dumpling meal was something like $7+.

                          I did walk back to Yong He I saw the women drop some fried bread on the floor and she picked it up and threw it back in the oven. It was cooked already. I'm not sure if I liked that and now it really raises the question how they handle food and the big dumplings I like.

                    2. Thank you for the list. It was so useful, and timely. I reviewed Shui Ba on June 10th, and had to call it the Taiwanese Bao Bing Stand, until you posted the true name. I had gone to the directory, but couldn't figure out which name was it. Very useful information. My take on the Bao Bing is that although I enjoy the Shui Ba's Taiwanese Bao Bing, once I found the Malaysian Ba Bao Bing at Sentosa nearby on Prince St, I stopped going as often.

                      I second the DeliManjoo stand. I love their yummy little hot cream buns. I'll also weigh in on noodles. I think the Chengdu Xiao Chi has the best beef noodle soup in Flushing.

                      CA Scotch Chick
                      www.scotchchix.com

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                      1. re: CA Scotch Chick

                        btw there is a delimanjoo stand in the city now in front of quickly shabu shabu on bowery

                        how's the quality of the beef? im always looking for a good beef noodle soup...the fujian places in ctown have good noodles, but their broth is just alright and the beef is all tendons and i havent found a great one in flushing although i generally like king five, but ive been looking for a really good one

                        1. re: Lau

                          Hey Lau,

                          The meat wasn't bad. I would like to have had more of it, but it was tender. I can't remember the tendon meat ratio though. I'm a tendon fan, so I don't mind it. The flavor of the soup and the noodles are both quite good - much better than King 5. Still it isn't up to the standard of Taiwan or even the place we like in the San Gabriel Valley, but it was good. Excellent Beef Noodle Soup seems to be hard to find in Flushing.

                          CA Scotch Chick
                          www.scotchchix.com

                          1. re: CA Scotch Chick

                            well i dont mind tendons either actually, but the ones in the city tend to be tough

                            yeah it is weird that such a popular dish no one can get right in ny...im from LA and there are much better places available there and taiwan well thats just not fair

                      2. Went on Sunday. After seeing Kung Fu Panda we had a hankering for noodles.

                        The ma la tendon at the Chengdu stall was as good as remembered, as good as or better than versions at any restaurant in the city that I can think of. The sesame noodles, however, were disappointing, the flavor skewed too far to soy and roasted chiles.

                        We also got the lamb noodle soup from Lan Zhou. The whittled noodles were very good, chewy and nicely varied in texture. The lamb and broth were just fine, nothing amazing.

                        1. Has anyone tried the Miao Kou Xiao Chi? Is it Taiwanese (just thinking of Keelung miao kou)?

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                          1. re: NancyC

                            Looks like there's a Miao Kou Xiao Chi stall in the new Roosevelt Food Court:
                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5711...

                          2. August 2008 update...

                            From right to left, these are the stalls I saw (I can't read Chinese, so can anybody translate?):
                            * Ku Shang Station (old Mr. Lin space)
                            * QQ Crepes (crepes, octopus fritters)
                            * Unknown vendor 1 - with a really spaced out menu in English and TONS of color photos
                            http://www.flickr.com/photos/kathryn/...
                            * Unknown vendor 2 - English/Chinese menu with fewer items and a handful of photos
                            http://www.flickr.com/photos/kathryn/...
                            * House of Yun Ho
                            * Juice Bar (that's what the mall brochure calls it but the NYT called it S&C Shaved Ice
                            )* Ay Chung Steak House
                            * Ay Chung Rice Flour Noodle
                            * Chengdu
                            * Lanzhou Hand Drawn Noodles

                            I'm hoping I didn't miss any of the spots? It appears that some of the places have grown in size, coopting the stall next door.

                            All Flushing Mall photographs:
                            http://www.flickr.com/photos/kathryn/...

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                            1. re: kathryn

                              Had a strange experience the other day at Cheng Du. I tried to order the Sichuan dumplings in chili oil, and the lady at the counter shook her head, said no, and turned her back to me. I indicated to another lady who worked there what I wanted and pointed to it on the menu board, and shrugged my shoulders, asking her what was up. She and the other lady had a short conversation, and one of them looked at me and said, "hot." I said okay, and the lady at the counter went ahead and made them for me, topped with plenty of raw garlic. Anyone have a theory why she didn't want to make them for me at first?
                              Also, where is the Chinese-Korean dumpling stand? I couldn't find it.

                              1. re: iraform

                                It's upstairs from the food court, on the ground level, by the fountain. Store M38 on the map.

                                1. re: kathryn

                                  Vendor 1 is Happy Barbeque. They are new. Taiwanese style street food. We went to Flushing mall on Thursday because I was craving beef noodle from Red Chopstick (Ku Shang in English) and I was intrigued by Happy Barbeque. There were a lot of people there on Thursday. Definetly will try it next time.
                                  Vendor 2, the picture was called Hot Pot but I think their name in Chinese call Ocean's Treasure (can't remember). They sell mini hot pot (like Minnie's Shabu Shabu) and they also sell dumplings and Tung Bei (Northeastern Chinese style) food. They sell a mince beef chinese burger that is prettty good. I don't have Shabu at Flushing mall because we go to Minnie's (next to sweet and Tart). My toddler loves Minnie's and they are so friendly to my kids.
                                  Try Ay Chung's rice floor noodle next time. They sell the best oyster omlete (pancake) in Flushing. They also make a great stinky bean curd (if you are into it) and a satay dried squid rice noodle. If you are into Taiwanese style street food, Flushing mall is great.

                                  1. re: PaMa

                                    Thanks so much! Very helpful.

                                  2. re: kathryn

                                    Thanks, kathryn, this is very helpful!

                                    But isn't this lineup actually left to right, not right to left (approaching from the south, the 39th Ave side)? I recall the Sichuan vendor being on the far right, barely visible from the center of the food court.

                                    1. re: squid kun

                                      I think she meant left to right, too.

                                      1. re: squid kun

                                        Yes, I meant left to right, whoops! All that delicious food must be going to my head.

                                      2. re: kathryn

                                        btw i tried the beef noodle soup at chengdu as someone said its good

                                        i thought it was ehh, the broth was a bit watery and the noodle were sort of thick, which was fine, but i didn't think they were al dente enough.

                                        1. re: Lau

                                          Have you tried it at Ka Shung / Red Chopstick, as PaMa recommended above?

                                          1. re: kathryn

                                            Are there any Shanghaiese (sorry if I mispelled) restaurants in Flushing? I love soup dumplings (a specialty from Shanghai) and rice cakes.

                                            1. re: anna_nyc08

                                              there isn't much shanghainese in flushing for some reason

                                              there used to be a very good shanghainese called yang tze (in english), but it shut down. however, my friend told me that the entire crew (chefs, staff, owners) then opened shanghai tide across the street. shanghai tide seems to be known for their huo guo (hot pot), but supposedly their shanghainese food is still quite good...ive been meaning to get over there to try it, but im not back in NY yet....will try when i get back and report back

                                              1. re: anna_nyc08

                                                I love soup dumplings too but haven't tried any of the Flushing places yet. Here's a recent discussion:
                                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/530963

                                              2. re: kathryn

                                                no i haven't had a chance to yet

                                                i used to go to the flushing mall several years ago fairly regularly, but most of the vendors have changed, so ive kind of got to start over and try them again

                                                1. re: Lau

                                                  Sorry, Ka Shung's translation in Chinese is actually Red Shop noodle.
                                                  The only thing I liked at Chengdu were the cold sesame chicken.

                                                  Joe Shanghai is suppose to be Shanghainese. Their soup dumpling is good (better then the one in Chinatown) I thought. The drunken chicken is pretty good although the chicken breast tends to be tougher. Smoked fish, decent.

                                                  We usually order two soup dumpling, a hot and sour soup and the braised sweet and sour fish then we are out. I've tried the ducks (both ways), skip it. The other food reminds me of old style Chinese restaurant food. You know, the ones they served around NY in the late 70's early 80's. Heavy sauce and oil. With that said, soup dumpling is worth it.

                                                  Didn't that NY Time piece mentioned the Nan Pei (South North in Chinese) as having good soup dumpling. Never tried it. My husband won't budge from Joe's.

                                                  1. re: PaMa

                                                    I believe nan bei he is more of a taiwanese place...sort of like nan xiang xiao lon bao

                                                    given that xiao lon bao is popular in taiwan, this would make sense

                                                    1. re: Lau

                                                      Nan Shan on Prince, not Nan Bei He on 40th Rd., was the place mentioned in the Times for xiao long bao.

                                                      1. re: squid kun

                                                        Thank you. I want to try out both, Joe's Shanghai and Nan Shan.

                                                      2. re: Lau

                                                        Taiwan is populated with a lot of mainland China who fled when Chairman Mao's took over the country including a lot of Shanghainese and Sczechuanese. Their version of Xiao Lon Bao is pretty close to that in Shanghai. I defintely have to try Nan Shan on Prince but they are always so packed on weekends. Is it worth the wait?

                                                        1. re: PaMa

                                                          I think I remember that in LA, there was a branch of Din Tai Fung, a purportedly Taiwanese xiao long bao shop. Their version was quite good, and I remember the skin/wrapper was a bit firmer than the Shanghainese version. Of course, it's very hard to get a decent xiao long bao even in Shanghai these days unfortunately...

                                                          1. re: superbobx2

                                                            din tai fung is of taiwan origin and there is a branch in LA that is good, actually i find their skin to be more delicate than the shanghainese version

                                                            there are also branches in taipei and shanghai

                                                            1. re: Lau

                                                              Actually, I would agree about the "delicate" comment... seems to look and taste like it's more carefully prepared. The firmness I was speaking of lends a nice chewiness to the dough to complement the filling. I'm getting hungry thinking about this...

                                                              Back to the original topic, I actually had a bowl of pork chop curry rice with a sausage and some cilantro/jalapeno/beancurd salad at the Taiwanese all the way at the end on the left (from the entering side). While I guess it's not as delicate as the katsu from a fancy Japanese place, the price was right and it was still good. I remember a couple of the stalls used to seem to change almost every week, although the ones there now seem to be a bit more stable. I've always wanted to try the "steak" place that I see a lot of people getting food from... is it any good?

                                                              1. re: superbobx2

                                                                The steak is 100% Chinese's interpretation of the steak dinner. If you can forgo all American standard steak, it is pretty good. I had the "sirloin" with pepper sauce and spaghetti. The sauce is peppery, garlicky with a good amount of Worcestershire sauce. The steak itself was, well, OK. It's defintely not tender thank goodness it was medium rare. But the combination of the sauce with the steak and spahetti is strangely good. I've had it a few time since but always with the pepper sauce. I thank there are 3 choice for sauces. Spaghetti or rice. It's woth a try.

                                            2. What time are these places open until, and is it worthwhile to get there later in the evening, or will everything be cold/stale?

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                                              1. re: Greg

                                                the place is just like a regular food court so everything is made to order; things don't get stale (except maybe the hotpot stuff because they seem to put the bundles together ahead of time. it gets very bustling and busy on the weekends (which adds to the charm). mall hours are 10am to 10pm but the food stands may still be setting up, and probably close around 9pm actually so a safer window may be from 11am to 9pm. you can also check their website:

                                                http://www.888flushingmall.com/

                                                1. re: bigjeff

                                                  Thanks. I tried that URL, but their server is not responding.

                                              2. Now that it's been a couple of years and with the addition of Xian's Famous Foods (西安名吃 - Xi An Ming Chi), does anyone know the updated lineup at Flushing Mall?

                                                Surely some stalls are no longer around. I haven't heard about (水霸) Shui Ba aka S&C Food Beverage in awhile.

                                                1. I stopped by the mall this past weekend and noticed Chengdu Snack's stall was empty. Everything was stripped down and it looks like their gone. Has this been a recent event or did this happen some time ago? I haven't been here in months because of the winter weather. Just curious if anyone has any info?

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                                                  1. re: virkodo

                                                    they are closing the mall next year. maybe they got a new place already.
                                                    There will be a new food mall opening - J Mart, on main street. not sure what will happen there...

                                                    1. re: Jeffsayyes

                                                      oh wait nvm, at first i thought you were talking about the golden mall