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  <title>Diabetic, Low Potassium Diet suggestions</title>
  <published_at>Wed Jun 11 08:47:20 -0700 2008</published_at>
  <post_count>14</post_count>
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    <id>31</id>
    <name>Home Cooking</name>
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        <id>3770090</id>
        <content>A member of our family, who has diabetes, has just been diagnosed with diabetic kidney disease and now also has to limit high potassium rich foods. The list below contains low potassium foods. Yes, it is long, but you will see it is limiting in fruit and vegetable choices. Interestingly enough, whole grain noodles and bread are not advised, but refined products are OK. Protein also needs to be limited to 60-70 grams per day. The recommended portions are 1/2 cup of ea item. Looking for recipes that are low in carbs, as well as low in potassium that might make the individual perk up because right now all they are seeing are the limits. TIA!

Alfalfa sprouts  
Apple (1 medium)     
Asparagus      
Apricots   
Blackberries     
Beans
Blueberries 
Bread (Not Whole Grains!)   
Cabbage   
Carrots, cooked     
Cauliflower     
Celery (1 stalk)     
Corn, fresh (&#194;&#189; ear)    
Cucumber
Cherries     
Cranberries     
Fruit Cocktail     
Grapes     
Grape Juice     
Grapefruit (&#194;&#189; whole)
Eggplant     
Kale     
Lettuce      
Mushrooms
Noodles
Okra     
Onions    
Parsley 
Pasta     
Peas, green 
Peppers   
Radish     
Rhubarb   
Rice
Mandarin Oranges     
Peaches, fresh (1 small)    
Pears, fresh (1 small) 
Pineapple     
Pineapple Juice     
Plums (1 whole)   
RaspberriesStrawberries   
Tangerine (1 whole)   
Watermelon(limit to 1 cup)
Vegetables    
Water Chestnuts
Water cress   
Yellow Squash   
Zucchini Squash</content>
        <published_at>Wed Jun 11 08:47:22 -0700 2008</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>15139</id>
          <name>Diane in Bexley</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>3770480</id>
      <content>I suspect the whole grains are restricted because of the higher level of phosphorus. Typical "renal" diets limit not only potassium, but also phosphorus, sodium and overall fluid intake. A lot depends on the stage of kidney disease and whether dialysis is in the picture or not.

Would be happy to help, but please expand on whether potassium and protein are the only restrictions (that way, I'm not recommending soups if fluid intake is limited, lots of suggestions with meat, dairy and beans if phosphorus is indeed restricted, etc.) Also, if you happen to know what kind of diabetic meal plan s/he has and a gram limitation on potassium, that would be helpful to me.

I hope we can help and cheer up your family member! Renal diets can seem awfully restrictive at first, but with a little creativity and help from caring family members, hopefully s/he will not get too frustrated. :) 

Edited to add: In case you haven't seen them, the National Kidney Foundation has this nice set of web pages for certain dietary considerations:

http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozTopic.cfm?topic=4



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      <published_at>Wed Jun 11 10:23:50 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770090</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>67581</id>
        <name>4Snisl</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3770520</id>
      <content>Thanks so much for your speedy reply! At the present moment there is no limit on fluids nor on phosphorous (we asked). She is in Stage 4, about 25-30% kidney function still left, not yet a candidate for dialysis or kidney transplant (we asked about that too). As for the diabetic meal plan, she has been following the South Beach diet, which is another reason this is so depressing, as she has been eating lots of whole vegetables, low sugar fruit, high fiber carbs and the renal diet list seems like a reversal of all the "good" foods she has been eating. TIA!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 11 10:34:03 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770480</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15139</id>
        <name>Diane in Bexley</name>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3771758</id>
      <content>Thanks for the additional info :).

For a nice, low-protein "main dish" kind of meal, I love these zucchini cakes.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/mighty-appetite/2007/07/never_enough_zucchini_recipes.html

They just need to be sauteed in a small amount of oil, not deep-fried.

Another low-potassium main dish- saute a nice mushroom cap, fill with a peppery watercress salad dressed with lemon juice and a little olive oil and a few sauteed shrimp (number depending on what her potassium limits are).

Lettuce wraps are another nice way to stretch "protein"- with a little meat, add in lots of sauteed fresh mushrooms (white buttons are fine, but even better with shitakes, oyster, enoki, etc.), scallions, water chestnuts, and shredded carrots and season with ginger, garlic, a little soy sauce and a touch of sesame oil. This also makes a nice filling for dumplings. Could also stir this mixture with noodles for something like a lo mein.

Sometimes, I also forget how nice simple vegetable soups are, and they can make that 1/2 cup serving a lot more satisfying. Buy the freshest carrots you can, cook until tender in a little olive oil/butter and water, salt and pepper- maybe a garlic clove if you feel like it. Blend it up, snip in some fresh dill, marjoram, thyme, and enjoy! This also works great with asparagus and corn.

I'm sure more ideas will come up. If you know the more precise limitation, you'll have a lot more freedom in knowing how to balance out ingredients and meals. And you may find some of your current favorites are "naturally" low-potassium! I hope this helps....</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 11 15:43:58 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770520</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>67581</id>
        <name>4Snisl</name>
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    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3772242</id>
      <content>Be careful with carrots, they are quite high in potassium</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 11 18:44:52 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3771758</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>150115</id>
        <name>Mellicita</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3774247</id>
      <content>Hence the mention of the 1/2 cup portion, a recipe that requires cooking and listed alternatives to carrots. Since cooked carrots are on the above-listed "low-potassium"  list, I assumed they were OK by the RD/MD/DO. However, I agree that they are definitely on the upper level of the "low-potassium" scale.

Another website you may want to consider for nutritional info, Diane, is Calorie King:
www.calorieking.com
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      <published_at>Thu Jun 12 10:35:26 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3772242</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>67581</id>
        <name>4Snisl</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3783316</id>
      <content>Hi 4Snisl, I just found this website, and after reading your info for Diane in Bexley thought I would like to join so I could learn more. My husband had both kidneys removed 3 weeks ago due to Severe Adult PKD (polycystic kidney disease). Now of course we r faced with a major change in his diet. I am currently searching for websites looking for recipies that will pertain to his specific restrictions. He can only have 9 proteins a day, 1L of fluid from any and all sources, no salt, and as little potassium and phophorous as possible. OMG, and the recipe suggestions I was given contain alot of things he doesn't normally eat, and or doesn't like. He has always been a meat, potato's and vegetables kinda guy. He drinks decaf coffe, water and coke...that's it! Not allowed coke anymore, so he is trying to switch to clear pops, which he hates! Anyway, sry, I will check out the website you suggested to Diane in Bexley, but if you know of anything better that would help with his restrictions, it sure would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance if you have any ideas, if not, it was nice just the same to fine your message to Diane. P.S.- good luck to u Diane in Bexley if you see this. Have a great day all!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jun 15 21:03:50 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770480</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>201145</id>
        <name>cinpot</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3770552</id>
      <content>Hi Diane,  I am a T1 diabetic and frequently use the messageboards for Type 1's on the American Diabetes Association's website.  The folks there are so generous with their information and I'm sure they can offer some suggestions for food, recipes, etc.  Here's a link: http://community.diabetes.org/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&amp;webtag=adatype1

Your family member is very fortunate to have you!  </content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 11 10:42:56 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770090</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>71241</id>
        <name>lynnlato</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>3770726</id>
      <content>One thought that came to mind... since she will be dealing with a lower protein diet.  Is to stretch the taste of meat or chicken by using white bread or white rice (sorry, I know this will be hard to do instead of brown if she was on SouthBeach previously, but the potassium is lower).   Eg, portioned serving of chicken stuffed with bread, onions, celery, apples, low sodium chicken broth, and poultry seasoning, garlic powder, and pepper.  Or stuffed with a similar rice pilaf    

Also ground beef could be stretched with some rice, to make cabbage rolls or meatloaf (with a brown gravy, rather than tomato) or meatballs in a cream sauce (roux thickened broth with a small amount of cream.... real heavy cream, is fairly low in potassium compared to milk,  1 tbsp cream = 20 mg potassium or 1% USDA for standard diets)  

I love to make a delicious apple concoction in the microwave.  Peel and slice one apple, add a tbsp of water to the bowl, add a touch of sweetner (equal or sugar or splenda), a touch of butter (I use I can't believe its not butter spray or even butter flavored extract sometimes), and a sprinkle of cinnamon, and microwave until the apples are soft.   This makes a delcious dessert or snack.  
Also, you can add a pinch of dry mustard (reg dijon mustard condiment will be higher in sodium, but you can use it if you just adjust for your daily allowance) and serve warm over a portion of pork tenderloin slices.

This website has a ton of useful tips and recipes (click on link to left)
http://www.kidney.ab.ca/kitchen/updates.html

This site will help you find out more extensive nutritional information for foods, including potassium, so you can learn to moderately include foods in the diet.
http://www.nutritiondata.com/</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 11 11:21:58 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770090</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>150115</id>
        <name>Mellicita</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3771164</id>
      <content>PS, did your physician or dietician give you set goals for the day?  Eg, a certain number of mg of potassium or sodium per day?   That would help in making suggestions if you could let us know what limits there are.   

That way you could see how certain foods could be worked into the diet in moderation, staying within the guidelines.   Otherwise, it starts to feel like one big exercise in "I cant have this, can only have a tad of that" frustration.


I also noticed that soft goat cheese appears to be low in potassium (7.3 mg/ounce), as well as protein (5g/ounce), and carbs (close to zero).
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/146/2

You could do roasted veggies off the list - eg, asparagus, eggplant, mushrooms,  yellow squash, zucchini - in olive oil, and herbs, and easy on the salt.  With a panko or breadcrumb crusted round of goat cheese. I use nuts for the crust, like pine nuts, but you will have to account for the potassium in the daily total for the diet (167 mg/ounce or 5% USDA)</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 11 13:04:06 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770726</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>150115</id>
        <name>Mellicita</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3780053</id>
      <content>Thanks for this List!  My 85-yr. old mom is diabetic T2 and has taped it to her refrigerator door as a reference for her Low Potassium diet.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jun 14 07:36:21 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770090</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13519</id>
        <name>Cynsa</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3783856</id>
      <content>Found an interesting web site from Canada dealing with kidney diet:

http://www.kidney.ab.ca/kitchen/index.html</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jun 16 07:08:02 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770090</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15139</id>
        <name>Diane in Bexley</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4436534</id>
      <content>Just found these web postings.  Just brought a member of my family home with  PKD and was  instruction to use a low potassium.  Are there any receipes out there???  Thanks</content>
      <published_at>Fri Feb 20 12:39:12 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770090</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>268489</id>
        <name>samar1</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4523041</id>
      <content>Just found this site, a friend reccommended it to me. My mom has Diabetes, and kidney failure, very close to starting diaysis. She was just told her potassium is going up, and needs to follow a low potassium diet. I've been having issues finding low potassium recipes. Hope to find some here!!! SHe lives with us, so I cook for us all and need to try to figure out how to work this all out!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 20 12:10:20 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770090</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>276014</id>
        <name>goofygal1975</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4523114</id>
      <content>What about cooking up some (regular) noodles then adding a sauteed veggie mixture on top? Looking at your list, you can use zucchini, yellow, squash, mushrooms, and japanese eggplant. If you can't use soy sauce, a mixture of garlic, lemon juice, and parsley is good. Not sure about the potassium levels, but maybe you can sub tofu shirataki noodles? 

If you can get fresh okra- it's delicious roasted in the oven with a little salt and pepper. I eat it as snack, but it's good as a side dish too. 

Red cabbage is great cooked down with a splash of apple cider vinegar, a bit of brown sugar, and a thinly sliced onion. It's got a deep flavor to it, so when you serve it with a small steak, you don't miss all the meat. 

Frozen grapes- red or green- are a great snack. Freeze on a sheet tray, then store in a ziplock bag. When I buy a whole watermelon in the summer, I cut the leftovers into chunks and freeze. Much healthier and more satisfying than ice cream. 

What about chickpeas? You can use chickpeas or black beans to make veggie burgers with some sauteed onion, parsley, and a bit of breadcrumbs. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 20 12:30:14 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770090</parent_id>
      <user>
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        <name>cheesecake17</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4668772</id>
      <content>My father-in-law is on dialysis and also has to watch his sodium, potassium &amp; phosphorus intake. The dietician at the dialysis center gave me a hint about potatoes - both white &amp; sweet potatoes. You can reduce the amount of potassium in them by "dialyzing" them. Peel &amp; dice the amount of potatoes for the person(s) needing to watch their potassium intake. Place the potatoes in a large container and cover with water to where the ratio is one part potatoes to ten parts water. Soak for 2 hours. Drain &amp; rinse potatoes. Place back in container and cover again with 10 parts water. Soak again for at least 2 hours. If using white potatoes, you can drain, rinse and cook as you wish at this point. If using sweet potatoes, you need to drain, rinse and soak for at least another 2 hours before cooking as they contain more potassium than white potatoes.

Also, for those needing to watch phosphorus intake, root beer is allowed!! The dialysis center has said that is a "free food".</content>
      <published_at>Sat May 09 10:34:32 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3770090</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>291317</id>
        <name>abear</name>
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