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Discolored blade on new Shun knife

I just got a new Shun Classic chef's knife a less than a week ago. It's been lightly used several times, then washed, dried and put into a knife block after each use. It has not sat with any food on it, it has not sat in water, nor left wet. Obviously in a week it's seen very light usage. Tonight, though, I noticed that it has a cloudy bluish-grey "stain" on the blade on both sides. Looks like a water mark. I've carefully cleaned it once more with dishwashing liquid and a soft sponge just to make sure it was well-cleaned, but it's still there.

I've never seen this even with my cheaper, abused knives. Is this a defect and should I return it? Do these blades need some special handling that Global doesn't need?

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  1. I would guess your knife has a high carbon steel content. Knives with a higher carbon content are generally more susceptible to staining from acidic foods.
    Global knives are stainless steel. It may help if you let others know which series of Shun you have. Ken Onion, Pro 2?

    1. A soft cloth or sponge and a little Bar Keepers Friend should take care of that.
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      1. re: jeffreyem

        But remember that it will leave slight scratch marks on your blade. As long as that's ok, I would agree w/ the Bar Keepers friend.

        1. re: sandih

          Does this "stain" look like moire, the cloth we used to call "watered silk"? Because if it does, that's the knife itself, its distinctive appearance. It's done (they claim) by the old process by which samurai swords were made, and it's what drew me to the knife in the first place. I absolutely love it! And its appearance is part of that, the blade doesn't look like any other knife.

        2. It shouldn't be discoloring. It does have a distinctive pattern as mentioned so that might be what you're noticing.

          The bluing might also be oxidation and could be a sign of future rust. A Shun, cared for properly, shouldn't rust. So there may be a defect in there.

          The retailer will receive a free credit from Shun so if you are unhappy with it do not be afraid to take it back and exchange it for another. If you bought it from a reputable retailer or knife dealer they should also be able to tell you by looking at it if what you're seeing is normal for the knife or not.

          1. The Shun knife is a stainless blade so I wouldn't expect a patina as described. That is exactly what I would want to see on my carbon steel knives or on the edge of a carbon steel clad in stainless with a carbon edge. For most stainless I would still recommend cleaning and drying a knife as soon as you are done with it. Just makes for good care habits.

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            1. re: scubadoo97

              I don't own a Shun but the Ken onions appear to be high carbon and of a damascus style pattern like BerkshireTsarina is describing. If they are high carbon then they are probably not Stainless. Staining from acidic foods should be expected. Shun like most knife makers offers several lines each of a different type of steel.

              1. re: Docsknotinn

                True. The majority of Shuns I've seen are stainless with a Damascus finish.

                On the Kershaw website Ken Onions are listed as VG-10 which is stainless with 32 layers(16 layers on each side) of SUS410 stainless. The Classic that the OP stated is made of the same construction as the KO. The Alton Brown is also the same material

                They do list other steels like SG-2 Powdered Steel on their Elite line but it too is clad in 410A stainless but it may not be at the edge.

            2. It's from the Shun Classic line (sold at Williams-Sonoma). The discoloration is not the damascus blade, it's a distinctive blue-grey "haze" on both sides of the blade. It's a week old today, and has been washed and dried as soon as it's been used (no, not put in the dishwasher, either), so it's not user error as far as I can tell.

              From the Shun/Kai site (http://www.kershawknives.com/productd...), the blade is:

              - VG-10 stainless steel is clad with 16 layers of SUS410 high-carbon steel on each side, producing a 33-layer rust-free Damascus look
              - VG-10 "super steel" is composed of Carbon, Chromium, Cobalt, Manganese, Molybdenum, Silicon, and Vanadium

              It claims to be rust-free. I do think I will exchange it. I got it as part of a 10-piece set as a gift from my husband, so I want to ease his mind that he bought quality and that this is a fluke. If this is part of the aging process and its to be expected, that's OK, too. I just want to be sure. But should it really happen in less than a week?

              ETA: Whatever it was cleaned right up with Barkeeer's Friend - hanks for the suggestion!

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              1. re: Divamac

                I found Shun's customer service to be great. When Sur la Table refused to sharpen my 3 Shun knives I (eventually) sent them to Shun for sharpening. They were, admittedly, pretty chewed up by them, being my first "good" knives and relatively delicate on the edge.

                Shun sent me back 3 brand-new knives. No questions.

                1. re: cyberroo

                  Sur La Table shouldn't have refused to sharpen your knives, that's little extreme. What they should have done, however, was tell you that their sharpening machine would put a "European" angle on it, e.g. something around 20-22* rather than the 15-16* it should have.

                  To the OP, my Shun did the same thing too -- make sure it is completely dry before putting it back in the block. Wash with nice hot water (not too hot), towel dry it, then leave it on the counter to air dry for a few minutes. I usually get those if I wash them and forget to dry the blade and the water dries on the blade. Enjoy your Shun!

                  1. re: mateo21

                    The sur la table closest to me does sharpening but they just use the chefs choice electric sharpener.. nothing you couldn't pick up yourself.. 15/20

                    1. re: grnidkjun

                      That is weird. They just stick your knives into a home electric sharpener?