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maisonbistro Jun 10, 2008 07:06 PM

Whodathunkit?

I think the only reason GR keeps keeping Jen is for the "drama". How many times can you lose or mess up and blame someome else. It's never her fault. Always someone else. Can't wait for the episode where she blames GR for her shortcomings.

Did we need 12 bikini models in the episode? Are the ratings that poor?

Jen needs to go. She might be a decent cook, but she's proven to be dishonest over and over again, isn't a team player and can't accept responsibility for her actions - a lethal combination in a kitchen.

Final two for sure should be Corey and Christina.

  1. LindaWhit Jun 10, 2008 07:32 PM

    Whodathunkit? is right! Considering how he started out (almost getting the boot), it's amazing. But glad General Bobby is gone. Biggest doofus ever.

    Re: bikini models - don't think it's the ratings. It's Fox Network. 'Nuf said. ;-)

    And yes - while Jen was good in the beginning, she has gotten too full of herself. Agree with your final 2. I see both of them as semi-Heathers from two seasons ago.

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      HarryK Jun 11, 2008 10:03 PM

      I agree with both of you. You've pretty much nailed it on all fronts.

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      Pete Oldtown Jun 10, 2008 07:37 PM

      I just noticed while watching how much I truly loathe this show. It's just awful. It's like watching CIA thugs siccing German Shephards on naked prisoners at Abu Ghraib.

      1. diablo Jun 10, 2008 07:42 PM

        I really love the music. Very dramatic. That said, I really can't believe Petrozza is the last man standing considering his slovenly habits in the kitchen.

        I'd like to see both him and Jen go, but somehow I can't see Corey and Christina making it to the end together. It's too generic or something.

        They deserve it the most, though, out of this pitiful bunch.....

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          mumblety Jun 10, 2008 08:04 PM

          Aww, I hate to be "that person" since most bitching about spoilers is lame but can you guys hold off on putting that stuff in the title? It's not on here in CA for another hour...

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            maisonbistro Jun 11, 2008 04:58 AM

            Sorry - won't do it again.

            Really, didn't mean it to spoil it for you.

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              mumblety Jun 11, 2008 06:23 PM

              It's cool. :) If I were in your shoes I would have been so shocked that I would have been in a rush to say it, too.

              I was still watching thinking "Maybe he was lying? Bobby CAN'T be leaving, right?"

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                maisonbistro Jun 12, 2008 05:04 AM

                She would never lie. Not nice.

                :)

          2. coney with everything Jun 11, 2008 05:20 AM

            ITA about Corey/Christina, and I still think they'd be a good package deal for GR, or at least they would be the pick of the litter.

            I REALLY would have liked to see both Jen and Bobby get the booterino last night. Jen should have been escorted out the second GR caught her doing her bimbo's work.

            But,,.god, those bimbos are a good argument for the revolution, aren't they? Peasants, grab your pitchforks! "Oh, I've never used a knife in my life". Jeebus Christmas

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              LStaff Jun 11, 2008 06:54 AM

              >I think the only reason GR keeps keeping Jen is for the "drama".

              Most likely. The only other reason I can see for keeping her is that GR thinks she has more potential than Bobby and he's just not as motivated.

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                yankeefan Jun 11, 2008 06:56 AM

                Come on!

                I DVR'd it and saw this in the heading. At least keep it in the body with a warning on the post. I guess its my fault for coming on the site.

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                  jujuthomas Jun 11, 2008 07:00 AM

                  OMG. I dvred it and wasn't going to watch b/c of the "housewife" drama - but now I'm going to have to! lol. I was getting really sick of Bobby, Jen too. P seems like a nice guy tho - he must be a good cook for GR to see past the mess!

                  1. Antilope Jun 11, 2008 07:49 AM

                    "Did we need 12 bikini models in the episode? Are the ratings that poor?"

                    Last week (the show before the model episode), Hell's Kitchen was # 9 out of the top 20 shows:

                    "9. (28) "Hell's Kitchen," Fox, 9.36 million viewers."
                    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/w...

                    1. MeAndroo Jun 11, 2008 08:07 AM

                      Not only was there bikini models, but they had those incompetent housewives showing off their enhanced assets as well.

                      Remembering the first episode or two, I can't believe Corey and Christina look like the 2 closest people on the show. Whodathunkthat?

                      The thing about Petrozza is that, like Ramsey said, he's dirty but he makes amazing food. I think Bobby just didn't do anything.

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                        LindaWhit Jun 11, 2008 08:17 AM

                        I think Bobby just didn't do anything.
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                        No, he was too busy talking about what he was doing - staying out of everyone's way.

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                          maisonbistro Jun 11, 2008 08:54 AM

                          But it was like the army and he was the general.

                          If I had to hear that one more time I think I would have screamed.

                          We get it Bobby. We got it in episode one, when you said it on the bus - we got it every episode since then, when you said it over and over and over again.

                          And how happy were those housewived to get a set of fancy pots???

                          Their nannies and housekeepers and personal chefs will be thrilled I'm sure.

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                            LindaWhit Jun 11, 2008 09:13 AM

                            Tee hee! Yes, General Bobby was just like anyone in top management - all talk, no action. ;-)

                            And I thought the *same* thing when GR said about the pots and pans....but didn't he say "you each get one"? I thought he meant "one pot". <vbg>

                      2. dave_c Jun 11, 2008 10:49 AM

                        Chef Ramsey did reiterate that they were going to be "executive chefs" at his new restaurant.

                        Wow! He said that with a straight face.

                        I can't see how any of the remaining contestants can hold that job and be respected or proficient.

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                          LindaWhit Jun 11, 2008 11:36 AM

                          None of the HK winners have gotten an EC position at any of his restaurants, despite him saying that every season.

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                            HarryK Jun 11, 2008 10:05 PM

                            Well, actually Roc *did* get it last season. He was the first of the three to get what was promised.

                            And nope no one this season is going to get it. They'll get what Heather got, the glorified sous chef position with the fancy title for one year.

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                              LindaWhit Jun 12, 2008 04:07 AM

                              Are you sure Rock got an EC title?

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                                jfood Jun 12, 2008 05:23 AM

                                Jfood does not know if this makes a difference but when Rock was a guest a couple of weeks ago his jacket was embroidered with "Head Chef" not Executive.

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                                  HarryK Jun 12, 2008 06:20 AM

                                  As jfood said, he's called "head chef" not "executive chef" but I'm pretty sure they mean the same thing. From one or two articles I found previously he has all the normal duties of an exec chef and the full salary. I also think they've kept him beyond the minimum one year though not positive on that part.

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                            melly Jun 12, 2008 11:14 AM

                            You know, when I set HK to record I thought to myself, "why are you doing this? This show is crap..just crap". I watched it anyway and closed the blinds so nobody would see me. Why do I do this to myself?

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                              LindaWhit Jun 12, 2008 11:21 AM

                              LOL! melly, it's not porn! Although at times I *do* wonder if it's worse. :-D

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                                maisonbistro Jun 12, 2008 11:54 AM

                                Umm, because you have HUGE crush on Gordon. You think he's incredibly sexy and funny and smart and talented, and wish he would have married you instead of his current wife with whom he is ridiculously happy and has many kids...

                                Oops, no, that's me.

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                                  phee Jun 12, 2008 09:57 PM

                                  NO! ME! There will be a reality show someday where maisonbistro and I go head to head for Gordon. However, if I can have Anthony Bourdain, I'd be willing to let her have Gordon. Maybe. ;)

                                  Anybody else think it was bad form to even let the one bimbo housewife bring her freakin' dog in? I know he was quickly removed, but PLEASE!

                                  For the first time ever, I don't have a favourite, no one I'm rooting for, and no anxiety about who is going to win. This is so odd in comparison to how I felt watching Top Chef last night. Make that different from any of the Top Chefs or even last season's Hell's Kitchen. It's more like watching a soap opera - and yet, still, I watch. Yeah, it's gotta be because it's Gordon.

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                                    maisonbistro Jun 13, 2008 09:34 AM

                                    I met AB when he was here in Montreal doing a talk during his book tour for No Reservations, and I felt like was about to shake hands with the Beatles. My problem with AB is that I don't think I'm near cool enough to interest him or keep his interest, even though he is Godlike to me. So, if you want, you can have AB and I'll gladly hold on to GR/

                                    Does the fact that I'm a happily married mother of one change anything?? Nahhh, all's fair in love and war.

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                                    Cpt Wafer Jun 13, 2008 07:58 AM

                                    I just wish he were the president.

                                2. TonyO Jun 12, 2008 12:05 PM

                                  How disgusting is it watching all/most of the finalists smoke a butt while being interviewed ? A disgusting habit that only adds to my puzzlement that about this group of hacks being the best Fox could find. Their personalities are nonexistent and they have very little ability or grasp of common kitchen practices. I only watch hoping that someone will take a swing at GR. Not likely with this group............

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                                    maisonbistro Jun 12, 2008 12:16 PM

                                    Many many many chefs/cooks smoke - Just ask Anthony Bourdain. It also bothers me to see them all smoking, but it also bothers me to see other people smoking - but it's their lungs, not mine.

                                    The whole "why did they pick these losers" question has been debated already, ad nauseum. They're not as talented or even close to the contestants on Top Chef. So what? this isn't Top Chef. This is Kitchen Nightmares. Oops, I mean Hell's Kitchen...... Hmmmm, Hell, Nightmare... I see a pattern..

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                                      The Chowfather AKA sobe Jun 12, 2008 10:25 PM

                                      Wouldn't you love to see the Top Chef's doing dinner service in Hell's Kitchen one night? That would be good TV...

                                      "frozen scallops?? oh c'mon you Donkey"

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                                      toro head Jun 12, 2008 09:17 PM

                                      TonyO - You obviously have never worked in the restaurant industry. I would say at least 50% of it smokes. All of the other shows just edit it out.

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                                        meatn3 Jun 14, 2008 09:20 PM

                                        From my experience the % is higher.

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                                          TonyO Jun 15, 2008 07:03 AM

                                          I spent 15 + years in the industry and never smoked. I realize there is a high % that do and used to enjoy making the those that decided to partake in such a filthy habit scrub their nicotine stained fingers after each cancer stick. It always amazed me how many wouldn't if left to their own. It has no place in a kitchen or front of the house. After shift, do what you want. I really find it disgusting when a restaurant guest has to be served by someone with the stench of Eau De Marlboro on their person. You think a cook sweating in the food is disgusting, it pales when compared to seeing someone finish a smoke and then go handle a nice piece of delicate fresh fish. 95% of the chefs I know do not smoke. Keep in mind, I reserve the use of the word "chef" for professionals that have earned the title.

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                                            jlawrence01 Jun 15, 2008 06:14 PM

                                            I also spent 15+ years in the kitchen and managed not to smoke.

                                            How can you tell a culinary school from other professional schools? The former has students in their kitchen whites smoking outside. Seriously, I have been at two of the local culinary programs in Chicago this week and both had a good number of students outside the building smoking away.

                                            It is kind of scary.

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                                              Blueicus Jun 15, 2008 07:09 PM

                                              And at the university I went to staff, faculty, and students have all been standing outside the buildings puffing on cigarettes? What's the diff?

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                                                jlawrence01 Jun 16, 2008 06:33 AM

                                                They are not preparing the food I will be eating. The culinary students will be, That is a big difference.

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                                                  karmalaw Jul 2, 2008 09:24 PM

                                                  I'm not sure I understand your issue with people smoking during their breaks and OUTSIDE of the restaurant kitchen. I loathe cigarette smoke myself, but I don't presume to tell people what they can and can't do on their own time.

                                                  You should be more worried about them using the bathroom during their many hours long shifts... or is it expected that they won't do that either?

                                            2. re: TonyO
                                              toro head Jul 2, 2008 06:26 PM

                                              Tony-

                                              I have never seen the contestants on Hell's Kitchen smoke during service. They are only smoking back in their dorm. Your above statement about a chef handling a piece of fish after smoking is not relevant to our discussion about the Hell's Kitchen contestants.

                                              A professional kitchen would not allow their staff to smoke during service. If they want to smoke before or after service - which the program clearly shows - I could care less.

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                                                Leonardo Jul 2, 2008 07:36 PM

                                                Torohead: Your calling it irrelevant does not automatically make it so. Call me irrational, but when I see a resto's uniformed personnel smoking outside while on break, I lose interest in dining there. Just sayin'.

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                                                  soupkitten Jul 3, 2008 02:37 PM

                                                  well if they are in *uniform* that's different.

                                        2. Withnail42 Jun 17, 2008 05:01 PM

                                          At this point, to me at least, it is irrelevant as to who are the final four. For that matter who will even make to the finals. I simply do not want to eat any of their food.

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