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Gin: Bombay Sapphire, Tanqueray and Beefeater?

I would appreciate it if someone could give me recommendations*, contrasts and comparisons (e.g. tasting notes) regarding Bombay Sapphire (which I have tried and enjoyed), Tanqueray and Beefeater.

*Which do you recommend:

in general / all around

in a martini

in a Gin and Tonic

(and yes I have seen the articles in various newspapers like the NY times etc... I'd like to hear what "real people" recommend after all its a matter of taste...so every one has to decide for themselves)

Thanks

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  1. Beefeater's is a good low price gin that does fine in a GnT.
    Tanq is a middle of the road London gin that is also quite serviceable for all purposes. a slightly higher juniper quotient.
    Bomb sapphire has more other botanicals especially in the nose.
    Personally, I like Plymouth as my favorite all-around gin, but also like Hendricks(strong component of cucumber in the nose) Magellan(french gin with different multi-botanical flavors, and Junipero, american, made by Anchor, with, as its name would suggest, a strong bracing juniper flavor, which works well in martinis to my taste.

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    1. re: chazzerking

      Thanks for the feedback. Out of the three: listed in the topic which would you choose and why?

      1. re: Faune

        I probably would go with the Bombay, for the botanicals, especially for maritinis, but it's a close call between it and the Tanq. But you need to comparison test for yourself as zin suggests and decide which you like best.

        1. re: Faune

          Why are you limiting it to those three? I also have a strong preference for Plymouth.

      2. Bombay Sapphire hands down..the infused herbal aromatics are what makes this fab gin and I always have a big bottle in the freezer and I only serve it as a gin and tonic with the good juicy Mexican Limes with lots of crushed ice..
        I think its the juniper berries that make it so bloody good!
        Dang, makes me want to make one at this hour..

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        1. re: Beach Chick

          I had this in a martini on valentines day and was very surprised. I like gin martinis (More of a vodka martini person) but this was the best one I'd ever had. It tasted so much like juniper berry. No "Alcoholy) taste. A hint of vermooth and some olive in there. It was just perfect.
          I wasted no time in adding a bottle to my liquor cabinet.

          DT

          1. re: Beach Chick

            I have to quibble with your practice of keeping gin in the freezer. Vodka;fine, Gin; nay,nay. Freezing kills the botanical scents that make gin taste like gin. I'm all for cold, cold martinis, but not made with frozen gin.

          2. Out of the 3 that you acknowledge, I like Tanqueray the best. It is a good, true gin and I think it makes a great G&T. If I am allowed to choose from outside of your realm, Martin Miller's Gin is my hands down favorite. MMG makes for a great G&T (try with Fever-Tree tonic water), but even better is MMG chilled up with a twist. Yum!

            1. Faune,

              May I make a suggestion? Go to a bar with some friends and order G&Ts -- one each with Beefeater, Tanqueray, Bombay Saphire, and whatever else you want to try. (Or you can pick up 50ml bottles of each and try it at home). Then, try it again -- probably another night -- with each in a Martini, etc., etc., etc.

              My guess is that you will prefer one brand for a G&T, but a different brand in a Martini, and so on.

              That's the only way to really know what YOU prefer -- taste them side-by-side.

              Having said all that, I generally prefer Plymouth or Boodle's, but if I'm in a bar with only the "basics," then it's usually Tanqueray if I'm ordering a G&T; Bombay or Bombay Saphire if I'm ordering a Martini.

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              1. re: zin1953

                started out as a Tanqueray drinker, switched to Bombay but like Boodle's although would still vote for Bombay and there is some in the freezer at all times. am thinking I like your idea of a tasting.

                1. re: zin1953

                  Very good suggestions for beginners. I like Bombay sapphire on the rocks with 4 olives on the side. I used to have three, but my granddaughter said, " Why only three?" So I now I have four. Tanguery is almost as tasty so I hate to mix it also, except for a very dry martini. What you sometimes get at the bar for a martini is bathtub gin with a lot of cheap vermouth, unless you are at a swanky place where you are also paying for the overhead.

                  Since I am an old lady on social security I am happy with a Moderate priced gin for every day use. Gin and unsweetened tonic with lime is lovely for the summer. My son-in-law gave me an atomizer for Christmas. It works well for vermouth in a very dry martini!

                  In Arizona, "When the mountains get pink, it's time for a drink!" I'm no longer one of the three marinis for lunch bunch. It's really not good for anyone. Moderation is so important! So "Cheers!"

                2. I'm a Boodle's gal but I think zin's suggestions are spot on.

                  1. I have to admit as a regular gin drinker I haven't developed a real preference yet. If you want to save some money I think Gordon's or Seagram's taste just fine as regular "go to" brands for making gin and tonics at home. At a bar I'll order Plymouth, Beefeater or Bombay in a martini. Most gin and tonics made at bars taste cloying to me because the tonic water is usually too sweet. Schwepps seems to be the dryest I've had so far, so that's what I use at home.

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                    1. re: wontonton

                      wontonton: I'm with you on the Schweppes/sugar content issue - have you had trouble finding it lately? there's only a handful of places I can, 2 grocers (out of 6) and 1 liquor store (out of 7) in a 15 block radius and even then it's iffy.

                      1. re: hill food

                        I've noticed it's not easy to get at your random convenience store, but it's usually easy to find at the grocery stores I go to.

                        1. re: wontonton

                          all we get around here (mostly) is Canada Dry. ok, but not my fave.

                          the grocers that sometimes have it are a good 8 block+ walk each way.

                          what is it with buyers? if something is chronically flying off the shelf and out of stock, one would think that might change purchasing patterns.

                          back on topic: Sapphire is just too floral (for me) the rest of you, enjoy!.

                    2. Favorite all around- Plymouth

                      Martini - Plymouth

                      Neat - Bombay Sapphire

                      Gin & Tonic - Boodles

                      Cleaning the grunge out of grout - Tanqueray. It tastes lik Pine-
                      Sol and cleans just as well.

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                      1. re: bkhuna

                        A drinker of my own heart.

                        Plymouth or regular Bombay for Martinis
                        Boodles or Sapphire for Gin and Tonics

                        I think Beefeater (or Gilbey's, or Booth's) kicks the tar out of Tanqueray, but I'd drink Tanquaray all day long over Hendrick's. That stuff tastes like...grandma.

                      2. I have already tried Bombay and Bombay Sapphire, both of which I love.

                        I have been hearing such incredible things about Plymouth Gin, though, I had never seen Plymouth Gin around where I live, so I did not inquire about it.

                        Ask and ye shall receive? well not exactly:

                        Today I found Plymouth Gin and figured that I'd go for it, it was reasonably priced @ $16. I guess they dont know what they have, I have heard that Plymouth costs twice that in certain places. BTW it was the last bottle in the store. It was the older bottle with the mayflower on it, the store clerk didn't even know she had it. I saw it behind the Beefeater.

                        Well I hope it tastes as good as everyone here has been raving about it.

                        I also bought some individual bottles of Schweppes Tonic water, I hope Plymouth is as good in a G&T as it is supposed to be in a Martini.

                        Thank you all for your advice.

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                        1. re: Faune

                          I know you have already made your choice, but I would only add one note the others who are still reading...

                          For any drink that contains a non-lime citrus component or a liqueur like Campari or Aperol, go with the Beefeater. It is the only gin that I know of that has a distinct orange flavor because they use orange peels as one of the botanicals.

                          For example, Beefeater is great drinks like the Negroni and the Pegu Club.

                          1. re: Hobsons Choice

                            Orange peels are used in quite a few gins and many have orange tones. The one with the most orange presence to it is Bluecoat, made in PA. An excellent gin.

                            1. re: JMF

                              Just tried Blue Coat. It's so potent with botanicals it makes Bombay Sapphire taste like vodka. I liked it, but wouldn't drink it more than once in a while.

                              1. re: JMF

                                How would you compare Bluecoat to Seagram's, botanically? More citrus, but of similar intensity?

                            2. re: Faune

                              Hi, Faune

                              Can you please tell me how Plymouth Gin was like for you?
                              For as far as I know, it's increased in price or simply more expensive here (The Netherlands). Plymouth goes for + - € 25,=/€ 33,= for 750 ml.
                              So, I'd rather have someone else's opinion than buying it with disappointment as a result.(",)

                              To answer to your topic:
                              Havn't tried those gins yet but I heard from friends that Tanqueray Ten is good for G&T / T&T
                              and
                              Bombay Sapphire is good for Martinis.
                              Tomorrow I'm going to buy both:P

                              Thanks in advance

                              one day fly

                              1. re: one.day.fly

                                Hey one.day.fly,

                                I had a good experience with Plymouth gin and would definitely buy it again (by me, despite the price hike, its still cheaper than the "other brands")

                                It is different than London Dry Gin, I'd say it doesn't feel as dry, its "sweeter" in my opinion. Plymouth's citrus notes are more prominent than its juniper as opposed to London Dry Gin.

                                I experimented with Plymouth in martinis, G & T, Negronis and numerous other cocktails and I must say that I was impressed and thoroughly enjoyed it.

                                Let us know what you think of Plymouth.

                                Cheers,

                                Faune

                                1. re: Faune

                                  Another vote for Plymouth. My favorite gin hands down. I wish they sold it in a 1.75 L bottle though.

                                  1. re: JonParker

                                    Plymouth all the way, especially over Bombay Sapphire.

                                    1. re: JonParker

                                      Me too! a 1.75 L bottle of Plymouth would be great.

                              2. I am a tanq and plymouth fan. tanqueray in g+t and plymouth on the rocks or with a dash of bitter.

                                Plymouth was a revelation when I tried it. the juniper without the high alcohol of tanq. Not overly smooth like Bombay sapphire

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                                1. re: quazi

                                  I'm glad to see that I am not the only person who finds Bombay Sapphire to be too smooth and muted. Not that I'd complain if I had to drink it (I've never actually encountered a bad gin), but it does get lost if it's being mixed with anything. It's gin for those who don't like gin.

                                  My two favorite gins so far are as follows:
                                  Seagram's Extra-Dry (For mixed drinks -- juice or soda)
                                  New Amsterdam No. 485 (For sipping neat)

                                  I've had Tanqueray (not 10) once, but didn't really find anything unusually spectacular about it.

                                  1. I'm no gin expert, but I have noticed that G&Ts taste better with tonic that has natural sugar, as opposed to high-fructose corn syrup. The only place in my area I could find natural tonic water was at Whole Foods-- their house brand "365".

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                                    1. re: scoob

                                      i think the Schweppes Indian tonic has natural sugar, but i can only find as an import, so it is pretty expensive.

                                      1. re: scoob

                                        g&ts are wonderful with q tonic water ... it's not too sweet ... made with agave nectar ...

                                        1. re: scoob

                                          Fever Tree might also have natural sugar. It should for what it costs.

                                          1. re: TroyTempest

                                            It does, and it is delicious. You do get what you pay for, in this case.

                                        2. I drink gin perhaps 4-5 times a year.

                                          When I do, it's usually Tanqueray; either with tonic, soda or in a very dry martini.

                                          Whenever I'm drinking gin, I'm also eating half-shell oysters and a very rare steak. It's a taste combination that takes me back to a culinary peak experience many years ago.

                                          Beefeater's is what we serve in our restaurant as "well pour." It makes a refreshing gin and tonic and a classic martini. Bombay Sapphire is a very good gin, but I think it's botanical flavors are a bit too understated for me.

                                          1. Tanq - and Tonic
                                            Beefeater - Martini - up, extra dry, olives
                                            Sapphire (aka Windex) - on the rocks with a large squeeze of lime.

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                                            1. re: dbaublis

                                              Having tried Beefeater and tonic for ages, i must say that i like bombay saphire and lemon on rocks.So refreshing or should i say wasted.

                                            2. Why are we only choosing from 3 boring gins? If you can find yourself a bottle of CapRock do yourself a favor and make lots of martinis out of it. Delightful.

                                              New Amsterdam is nice in G&Ts. It has some great citrus notes and not too much juniper.

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                                              1. re: sourcandy

                                                New Amsterdam is an excellent "daily" gin.

                                                1. re: tanker64

                                                  by the name I would assume New A is a 'Dutch' Gin, usu. milder in flavor and lower in proof.

                                                  1. re: hill food

                                                    new amsterdam is New York
                                                    It is from the states

                                                    1. re: hill food

                                                      New Amsterdam is a dry style gin. It is either a contract gin and made by the big guys. Definitely not made in NY State.

                                                      1. re: JMF

                                                        I guess a 4 year old clarification is needed. I didn't mean that New Amsterdam was made in NY State. New Amsterdam was the name that the Dutch gave to New York city back in the 17th century.

                                                      2. re: hill food

                                                        Dutch gins / Genever are the opposite of what you say. They are malt based, and have a much heavier and deeper flavor of malt, plus botanicals.

                                                      3. re: tanker64

                                                        Boy, their website sure isn't encouraging -- flash, unasked for sound, and unpromising recipes. 80 proof.

                                                        Can you contrast it to, say, Sapphire or Tanqueray?

                                                    2. For an all round gin, Tanqueray Ten

                                                      For a Martini, Distillery No. 209 or Leopold's

                                                      For a G&T, Leopold's, Martin Miller's or Seagram's.

                                                      1. Ah, gin. How I love it. Either in martinis or G&Ts (the perfect summertime drink as far as I'm concerned).

                                                        I do love the Bombay Sapphire but mostly as a martini. Tanq is a good standard gin to have around; I like to think of it and Beefeater as party gins. You throw a shindig, someone is gonna want gin, but at least you don't have to waste the good stuff on large crowds.

                                                        Hendrick's has become my new go-to gin, though. I take cues regarding its use from a friend of mine in London. No citrus, but cucumber in the G&Ts. It has worked so far. It also makes a darn good version of a Bloody Mary, too. Another gin I love to recommend but don't is Victoria Gin, out of British Columbia. The reason I say don't is because it's very very very hard to find. I live in Quebec (an American expat) and I have had to drive to Ontario to procure some. It's only available in BC, Ontario and I think Washington state. This is too bad as it is a perfect small batch gin. It's floral, just the right kind of soft and wonderfully aromatic. It made a wonderful G&T, it made a gorgeous martini. It's just frustrating not to be able to get ahold of it on a regular basis!

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                                                        1. re: Peaches to Poutine

                                                          New Amsterdam gin a division of E.&J. Gallo Winery

                                                          1. re: Peaches to Poutine

                                                            My wife brought me home a bottle of Victoria Artesinal Gin when she was in British Columbia last week. It was in the low $30's at the duty free shop [and $60 in a Canadian liquor store]. Although I am two drinks into the bottle, I am very much enjoying the balance of the botanicals. One thing I further enjoy about it is that the floral doesn't come as pronounced as Hendricks.

                                                            1. re: hawkeyeui93

                                                              So glad to read that you found it to your liking! I hope you enjoy their hemp vodka too, so very smooth as well.
                                                              In your BC board post http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7921...
                                                              you mentioned liking it in a Gin Buck. May I ask what ginger ale you use?
                                                              I'll have go give that a try as I can see ginger being quite compatible with the flavor profile of Victoria gin (citrus, floral, spice).
                                                              Good to know it's on hand in the duty free (was that at the border or airport?) for out of country gifts (you saw the painful markups we endure here :-( )

                                                              1. re: kinnickinnik

                                                                I'm sorry I missed this when you asked: I enjoy using Ginger Beer made by Fever Tree.

                                                          2. Bombay Sapphire Dry Martini is the perfect beverage --- make sure the bartender stirs the gin, vermouth and rocks and definitely does not shake the hell-out-of-it! I always go for the olive but you may want to try a twist instead of the olive. Enjoy,......and thank God for this little piece of heaven on earth;

                                                            1. Hendrick's is great, so is Boodle's, Bombay Sapph, and Plymouth. Tanq and Gordon's are so-so. Beefeater is way too dry. I'd never, ever drink Tanq Ten, it feels like slop in the mouth (too much glycerine).

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                                                              1. re: nmatavka

                                                                I agree with everything you said except about Hendrick's. Its like drinking perfume. Way to floral and I like cucumber in my salad, not my drink (with the one exception being a Pimm's Cup). It's terrible. I wont allow it in the house.
                                                                Sapphire and Plymouth produce great Martini's and Sapphire is my go to Gin for G&T. Boodles works exceptionally well in either. Tanq I can take or leave; Tanq 10 is for wankers....

                                                                1. re: tanker64

                                                                  tanker, i was with you till the end there -- why is tanq 10 "for wankers"? (and, for those of us who are not brits, what is a "wanker"?)

                                                                  1. re: raider

                                                                    A wanker is someone who... erm... fiddles with himself for entertainment.

                                                                    1. re: nmatavka

                                                                      Is there a way or time when it's NOT entertainment???

                                                                        1. re: EvergreenDan

                                                                          Well, it entertains someone, doesn't it? :)

                                                              2. As it's fairly assertive, I prefer Beefeater's in a G&T or other mixed drink. For a "budget" gin, I'd pick Booth's, although it's mild enough to border on being a vodka and, as such, is a good starter gin for newbies. In a martini I prefer Bombay Sapphire, but have also greatly enjoyed Boodles and Citadelle (French). And the best gin is wasted in a martini unless you use a better grade of vermouth like Noilly Prat. The olives matter, too. Try to avoid the mediocre supermarket olives and try one of Santa Barbara Olive Co.'s offerings - especially the jalapeno-stuffed version.

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                                                                1. re: Pzz

                                                                  Beefeater for anything mixed, like a Salty Dog or a G/T. The flavor of Beefeater is intense enough to get through and be "ginny". Regarding Martinis, i prefer Bombay original 86 proof. It doesn't hammer as much as Safire, so you can enjoy more and for longer. In general, i think 86 proofing in any spirit is the perfect strength. Vodka is for pussies, GIN is for men!

                                                                   
                                                                  1. re: CastOff

                                                                    I find Beefeater to be one of the great value spirits. A Beefeater martini is a cocktail of unassailably high quality, perhaps only ordinary in the sense that its profile helped define the drink for so many people. Spending a few bucks extra on a good vermouth, like Noilly, and taking a possibly obsessive interest in making it just right probably help as well. It's spikey enough to handle the vermouth too, so need to hold back. I like it plenty for other cocktails and agree it makes a nice gin and tonics. One can buy a 1.75 of Beefeater on sale for under $30, which is a remarkable buy for the quality. While I order martinis with other gins at bars, I find Beefeater to be such a workhorse that I rarely find myself buying premium gins for home.

                                                                    1. re: tomjb27

                                                                      Wow. I tried this site to get an idea of gins (aside from my usual Beefeaters) and learned that it's all a matter of individual taste! So many contradictions. I was curious about the comments on New Amsterdam; I don't know Dutch gins but this sure ain't London dry -- sweet and spices is what I taste (although the "aroma" is pure alcohol). Terrible for martinis. I had some Bombay when I was in France and it was blah. I think it was Tanqueray that I actually disliked but ... that's one of the things I was hoping to glean from other people's comments. I've never tasted Plymouth and was really getting geared up to try it then I came on all the negatives. Guess I'm back to not knowing what to try. Beefeater's is my martini gin; to my taste it's too mild for G&T. (My G&T gin was Booth's, back when it didn't taste sweet and cinnamon.) For something cheaper I'm satisfied with Burnett's, which tastes good in a martini but certainly isn't epicurean.

                                                                      1. re: arverni

                                                                        Interesting. I've never seen anyone with anything bad to say about Plymouth.

                                                                        1. re: invinotheresverde

                                                                          Nor have I. Maybe arverni will share some citations.

                                                                            1. re: c oliver

                                                                              C Oliver,

                                                                              Apparently, ultimately, Travis McGee, the hero of John D. McDonald's detective series did.

                                                                              McGee started out as an inveterate Plymouth gin drinker. (Plymouth was the brand name but also, apparently, a style of gin, somewhat fruitier and thicker than the London Dry style.) Then the manufacturers of Plymouth stopped exporting it to the United States and arranged to have it distilled in the United States.

                                                                              According to McGee/McDonald, the taste changed for the worse and McGee/McDonald dropped Plymouth gin, which he had lauded for about 15 years in the novels and switched to Boodles, a London dry style of gin. (He then lauded it for about another fifteen years.)

                                                                              My memory of this was the reverse (mcGee switching from Boodles to Plymouth), but a little research on the internet indicates that I was mistaken. All of this is apropos of nothing, but I thought it was interesting.

                                                                              1. re: gfr1111

                                                                                Quite. My husband has read every Travis McGee at least twice and when we were purging books some years ago, those were about the only ones he wasn't willing to part with. Thanks.

                                                                          1. re: arverni

                                                                            >>> . . . and learned that it's all a matter of individual taste! <<<

                                                                            What were you expecting?

                                                                            1. re: arverni

                                                                              You might find this interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth...

                                                                              It is sweeter than a London Dry. Perhaps you can find some nips of some contenders to try.

                                                                              --
                                                                              www.kindredcocktails.com | Craft + Collect + Concoct + Categorize + Community

                                                                              1. re: arverni

                                                                                New Amsterdam isn't a Dutch gin. It is a slightly sweet version of a western dry gin. It still lands under the dry category. An Old Tom gin would be a sweet gin, and much sweeter than New Amsterdam, which is a mediocre contract distilled gin, that has nothing to do with Amsterdam old or new.

                                                                        2. Tanqueray Ten makes a great Martini, G&T or Bloody Mary.

                                                                          Beefeater Wet is also good, it might be closing out at BevMo and I bought a case for a song!

                                                                          1. Depends on your Perception. What do you equate the best to, as you already know what the NY times said. What qualities are important to you in a spirit?

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                                                                            1. re: ginreviews

                                                                              I would replace Bombay Sapphire with Citadelle, and Tangueray with Cascade Mountain Gin
                                                                              I would keep Beefeater.
                                                                              So the list should look like

                                                                              *Beefeater
                                                                              *Cascade Mountain
                                                                              *Citadelle

                                                                              1. re: ginreviews

                                                                                Citadelle is wonderful, have a bottle calling me from the pantry

                                                                            2. I have been drinking gin for 45 years, after the first 10 yrs I stopped drinking G&T's, it is a waste of gin, if you must... use Gordons or cheap gin for that purpose. Now I just drink it on the rocks with a twist of lemon or lime, and martinis with one or two drops of quality vermouth and lemon twist no olives please, salt ruins the gin taste. Everyone has an opinion and so do I. I pretty much like Beefeater and Plymouth, nothing scientific, just my taste over the years. The others are too flowery/botanical. The prev. suggestions of drinking them side by side at a bar is a good idea, see what you like then come back a couple more times. As you said "after all its a matter of taste...so every one has to decide for themselves". Only you can decide what's best for you.

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                                                                              1. re: dts530

                                                                                Plymouth yeah, Beefeater hell no. Far too dry.

                                                                                1. re: dts530

                                                                                  If you're only using a drop or two of vermouth, I bet you couldn't taste the difference in a blind comparison. Seems this group does more like two or three to one.

                                                                                  I had my eyes opened last year when I first tasted Fever Tree tonic. It's the only way I'll have a G&T now. Pricey but worth it.

                                                                                2. yes of course you want your gin dry, if you have a refined sophisticated palete.

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                                                                                  1. re: dts530

                                                                                    Could you elaborate on that please? Just to help out, it's "palate."

                                                                                    1. re: c oliver

                                                                                      your palate would be what is satisfying to your taste.
                                                                                      I don't understand what you're saying -"only using a drop or two of vermouth, I bet you couldn't taste the difference in a blind comparison. Seems this group does more like two or three to one." Why would I not be able to distinguish in a taste test, you don't have all the vermouth detracting from the gin, less vermouth is more dry.

                                                                                      1. re: dts530

                                                                                        Sorry, I clearly wasn't communicating well at all.

                                                                                        1. You wrote that "if you have a refined sophisticated palete" you will of course want your gin dry. I've never heard that before. And I promise there are some folks here who might also take exception to that. It may be YOUR preference but that's only yours.

                                                                                        2. If you put a drop or two of vermouth in gin, I doubt you could even taste the difference and it wouldn't effect the 'dryness.'

                                                                                        1. re: dts530

                                                                                          If you think more than a drop or two of vermouth detracts from the gin, you aren't using the right vermouth.

                                                                                    2. I drink Tanqueray in gin & tonic because its pronounced "piney" juniper flavor goes well with citrus and Bombay Sapphire for martinis because it's super smooth. Unlike vodka, where there are many excellent cheap brands, I haven't found a bottom shelf gin I like as much and I've tried many like Gordon's, Seagrams, Booth's & Fleischmann's.

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                                                                                      1. re: zackly

                                                                                        Gordon's and Seagram's are in no way "bottom shelf" gins. They are just nicely priced. They are both excellent gins. I think Gordon's is the perfect example of a London Dry style and use it as a benchmark. Seagram's is really smooth and very tasty, a great example of a modern, barrel aged, gin.

                                                                                        1. re: JMF

                                                                                          I'll give those two another try. I have both in my liquor cabinet. I'm going to taste them "blind" (with help from my wife) against Tanqueray & Bombay Sapphire. Maybe I'm discriminating against them because they're inexpensive. I'll report back.

                                                                                          1. re: JMF

                                                                                            I can attest that both Gordon's and Seagram's are good gins for the price. I like Tanqueray, but there is a whole list of gins better priced that are just as solid such as Brokers, Beefeater, Bombay Original, and Boodles. I never understood the premium for Bombay Sapphire, but I really do like Bombay Sapphire East in my gin bucks [and gladly pay the premium] .

                                                                                            1. re: hawkeyeui93

                                                                                              Boodle's isn't bottom-shelf; neither is Brokers. Gordon's is more bottom-shelf, even though I believe Plymouth is even less expensive than Gordon's is.

                                                                                              1. re: nmatavka

                                                                                                I was comparing Boodles, et al. to Tanqueray. I am well aware it is not a bargain priced/bottom shelf gin. And in my area of the world [Iowa], Plymouth is about 4x the price of Gordon's.

                                                                                                1. re: hawkeyeui93

                                                                                                  Oddly enough, in my corner of the world, it seems to be the opposite.

                                                                                                  1. re: nmatavka

                                                                                                    Then consider yourself blessed. Plymouth is a great gin [especially if you can buy it for less than Gordon's]. In my local liquor store, it is $30-plus a fifth. Gordon's is about $8 a fifth.

                                                                                                    1. re: hawkeyeui93

                                                                                                      The gin gods must be smiling on me. Really, the only "expensive" gin I can think of is Hendricks.

                                                                                                    2. re: nmatavka

                                                                                                      There is NOTHING ODD about it. I presume *you* are in a part of the world that sells the Gordon's Gin produced in the UK. OTOH, most of us on this page are located in the United States, where Gordon's has been produced domestically under license for over 60 years.

                                                                                                      Gordon's is $10.49/750ml; $15.49/1.5L.

                                                                                                      Plymouth, in contrast, is $33.79/750ml from the same retailer.

                                                                                                      1. re: zin1953

                                                                                                        After I posted my reply, I had a "aha" moment as to why nmatavka's statement was true ... thanks!

                                                                                                        1. re: hawkeyeui93

                                                                                                          Yeah, it comes from growing up in the wine & spirits trade. Gordon's in the UK *is* about the same price, maybe a bit more than Plymouth. OTOH, at least in the 1960s, the rumor here (in the U.S.) was always that Tanqueray was really the Gordon's you bought in London, whereas Gordon's was made here and good for the price. So for us Americans, we automatically tend to think of Gordon's as an American-made spirit.

                                                                                                          1. re: zin1953

                                                                                                            Is Gordon's in the UK higher proof than the US gordons (80)?

                                                                                                            1. re: zin1953

                                                                                                              Or Canadian, which is where American Gordon's is distilled, correct?

                                                                                                              1. re: hawkeyeui93

                                                                                                                Yes, it is now bottled in Canada . . . I don't know when it started there, but it was definitely here in the US through the 1970s and into the 1980s. I am ***guessing*** that it may have happened sometime after Diageo acquired the brand in 1997.

                                                                                                                In the FWIW Dept., Gordon's started distilling here in the States (Linden, NJ) in 1934, following the end of Prohibition. In 1966, sometime after the acquisition Tanqueray, Gordon & Co. by United Distillers, distillation was moved to Indiana.

                                                                                                                Not that it matters all that much, but Gordon's started off in the London district of Southwark in 1769, then moved to the Islington district of London in 1786. In 1984, they moved the distillery to Essex, and in 1998, it was moved to Fife, in Scotland.

                                                                                                                1. re: zin1953

                                                                                                                  Actually, I think the move to distill in Canada happened after Diageo acquired Seagram's in 2001 . . .

                                                                                                          2. re: zin1953

                                                                                                            Oddly, here in expensive Tokyo, Plymouth recently went from around $15/bottle to $13!

                                                                                              2. I'm a relatively new gin drinker and I do like Hendrick's quite a bit. The cucumber notes are very refreshing. Bombay Sapphire also is excellent.

                                                                                                I'll add that I recently tried Bulldog and it had just slightly more flavor than tap water. Not great at all.

                                                                                                1. Used to be a Tanqueray only guy, for pretty much anything that required gin, but now drink Sapphire East. Two extra botanicals- Thai lemongrass, and Vietnamese black pepper. I think Beefeater has added two extra botanicals with Japanese Sencha and Chinese Green Tea. I like the lower alcohol content in Sapphire East, plus the mixture of lemongrass, and a wedge of lime makes an excellent G & T. Also, Seagrams tonic water is a must. Have used Canada Dry, and Schweppes, but something about Seagrams brings out the full flavor of the gin- whatever gin you prefer.

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                                                                                                  1. re: Webbd

                                                                                                    I really enjoy Bombay Sapphire East as well, but I think Fever Tree Tonic is my favorite with it.

                                                                                                    1. re: Webbd

                                                                                                      I think the Beefeater 24 is what you are thinking of, with the green tea and sencha.

                                                                                                    2. Bombay Saphire for Martini and G&T with Tanqueray a close runner up for G&T

                                                                                                      Prefer Hendricks for both, especially neat

                                                                                                      Beefeater is entirely respectable though for both.