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El Nayar in Catonsville?!

sistereurope Jun 8, 2008 07:06 AM

I noticed that an empty storefront on Frederick Rd in Catonsville (across from Record and Tape Traders) is now sporting a sign that says El Nayar. A quick search of this board revealed a before unknown to me restuarant with the same name in Elkridge...could it be that Catonsville is actually getting a chowhound worthy place to go? Any info would be appreciated.

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    HowChowBlog Jun 8, 2008 04:56 PM

    Strange coincidence. I drove past El Nayar in Elkridge today, noticed it for the first time and thought "Is that a place I should come back to try." I'd love any information too.

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    1. re: HowChowBlog
      JonParker Jun 8, 2008 05:06 PM

      The Elkridge one is solid, or at least was -- I haven't been in a year or so. Also dirt cheap. It's a nice option.

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        Jason1 Jun 9, 2008 06:03 AM

        It's still solid. I wouldn't go very far out of my way, and the menu is very limited, but I very much like their tortas, burritos and tacos. I usually stick to the carne asada or lengua, both of which are very good there. Their tamales are pretty good as well.

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          flavrmeistr Jun 9, 2008 01:00 PM

          Checked out the one in Elkridge at lunch time. Pretty decent and reasonable, as you say. Had a brace of tacos (2 lengue, 2 barbacoa). The tongue was okay, not as savory and juicy as I like. The barbacoa was better with rich spicy flavors. A winner. Not quite as good as El Michoacan in Frederick (What? You didn't know about that?), but definitely autentico.

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          Eat_Nopal Jun 10, 2008 02:07 PM

          The name indicates the Owners are from Nayarit.... look out for regional specialties such as Pescado Zarandeado (a whole fish this is lightly smoked above a grill), Oyster Sopes, Chivichangas (a type of empanada made from a very thick layer of masa that is stuffed & deep fried... then served with an Avocado Salsda)... lightly poached seafood, marinated in a bit of lime of juice & a tangy tamarind-chile sacue and served inside green coconuts.

          If they nail those dishes then you know you have an exciting place.

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            Jason1 Jun 11, 2008 06:52 AM

            Yes, except that the El Nayar restaurant in Columbia has none of those things. Seafood is completely absent from their menu. They have more of a standard taco truck type menu in nicer surroundings.

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              Eat_Nopal Jun 11, 2008 08:43 AM

              Would you be willing to ask them about such dishes? They might have them off menu or be willing to introduce some specials. If you get me a ph#... I will give them a call to see if they will prepare anything beyond their basic menu.

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                Jason1 Jun 11, 2008 10:52 AM

                Well, here's their website. http://www.elnayarusa.com/
                For what it's worth, they do say that they have shrimp soup on weekends. They're not really set up to put out too extensive a menu, though.

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                  Eat_Nopal Jun 11, 2008 11:25 AM

                  Thanks.... I just got off the phone with proprietress. Tough break.... they come from a remote rural municipio up in the mountains adjacent near the state of Durango called El Nayar (Pop = 25,000 spread throughout 466 towns & settlements)... about half the people belong to the Huicol or Cora ethnicity... but alas the Flores family are Mestizo / mainstream (Catholic, Spanish Speaking etc.,)... and so they don't really know much about the local Native dishes (Venison stews, dried Venison, unique Cheeses, great variety of Squash & Pumpkin dishes, Tejuino & other fermented) and they don't know much about Nayarit's more developed cuisines from the Coast & the larger cities like Compostela & Tepic.

                  She did say that give a day's notice they would prepare some of their families special dishes.... Shrimp Ceviche Tostadas, the weekend Shrimp Stew & Shrimp Fajitas... but they don't really cook with Fish, Mollusks or Venison etc.,

                  http://www.e-local.gob.mx/work/templa...

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                    MDicecreamguy Jun 11, 2008 04:34 PM

                    You should contact the chef/owner at Mari Luna Grill in Pikesville. He is a native Mexican and a French trained chef. He is very familiar with alot of cuisines from different regions of Mexico. As a matter of fact they are opening a 2nd location right up the street from their present location which promises to showcase more of the owner's culinary skills. It should be open in a couple of months....more upscale and innovative than their current restaurant.

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                    Eat_Nopal Jun 11, 2008 11:40 AM

                    What do people think about Blue Agave? On paper... if you exclude the Burritos... the menu would be typical of a mid level urban restaurant in Mexico.

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            maddogg280 Jun 9, 2008 06:17 AM

            I work in Elkridge and often go to El Nayar for lunch. It is FANTASTIC and authentic. I highly recommend it and if they are expanding, so much the better! Really, I would go there more often if I could- it's that good!

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              HowChowBlog Jun 9, 2008 07:57 AM

              Any other thoughts in Elkridge? I discovered the taco truck on Chowhound, and I detoured from my Sunday errands to try the truck and the vendors at the US Flea Market.

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                maddogg280 Jun 9, 2008 10:35 AM

                One of my coworkers (who's very into mexican food) discovered a place called El Dorado a bit further north on Rt.1. We've been there a few times now and the food is great. The space is a redecorated Chinese restaurant with the former name still engraved in the floor. I've not done the taco truck, but I'd guess the ambiance at El Dorado is better!

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                  flavrmeistr Jun 9, 2008 01:02 PM

                  Is this the place with the weird-shaped room, like a 50's motel lobby?

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                  Hue Jun 10, 2008 04:49 AM

                  On Rte 1 just past Rte 175 same side as the Holiday Inn is an Argentinian place called El Patio that has gotten good press...
                  Also have you hit Uncle Daves/Grubes on Dorsey Rd just of Rte 1(behind the Citgo station)

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                    baltoellen Jun 10, 2008 05:17 AM

                    El Patio IS good! Killer empanadas!

                    What is Uncle Daves?

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                      Hue Jun 10, 2008 08:33 AM

                      Uncle Daves , BBQ, Pit Beef..great sliced pork sandwich

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                        Jason1 Jun 10, 2008 08:49 AM

                        Smokey and Uncle Grubes. Their Pit Beef's decent.

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                  sistereurope Jun 9, 2008 08:18 AM

                  that's all great news...I will definitely report back once they've opened the Catonsville location.

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                  pomme de terre Jun 10, 2008 12:56 PM

                  El Nayar sounds like a great addition, yay! Sistereurope, have you tried Catonsville Gourmet yet? I've only been once, but I really enjoyed it and it's defnitely chowhound-worthy.

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                  1. re: pomme de terre
                    JonParker Jun 10, 2008 02:02 PM

                    I hate to sound like a grouch about my pet peeve, but Catonsville Gourmet is yet another BYOB place with a corkage fee, which pretty much knocks them off my list. E. Large reviewed them in the Sunpaper a few weeks ago and didn't find much outstanding there.

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                      LGood Jun 29, 2008 09:16 PM

                      This review? http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertain...
                      three out of four stars across the board seems pretty good. Hey, when they are finally able to get their liquor license you can come back and pay the 3X markup for your wine. Until then, I'll gladly pay $5 to bring whatever I want.

                    2. re: pomme de terre
                      sistereurope Jun 10, 2008 03:01 PM

                      I always forget about Catonsville Gourmet! I guess I'll have to give it a try - and when do I will be sure to report back. The corkage fee doesn't bother me as long as the food is good. Of course the $25 corkage fee that some places in CA charged is a whole other story!!

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                        pomme de terre Jun 10, 2008 07:17 PM

                        The Sun said it was a $5 corkage fee, which is chump change when you figure in regular restaurant mark-ups on wine.

                        I probably wouldn't drive across town just to check CG out, but it's definitely worth a visit if you're a local.

                        1. re: pomme de terre
                          JonParker Jun 11, 2008 03:52 AM

                          It's not much compared to restaurant markups, but the salient point is that they don't have a liquor license. I refuse to pay to be inconvenienced. This is all OT here, but I ranted about it at some length in this thread: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/515106

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                      2stepper Jun 10, 2008 11:15 PM

                      I've been to the Elkridge location of El Nayar a few times and whether you'll like it depends on what you're looking for: it's what I'd call "authentic" Mexican like what you'd find in Mexico. In contrast for me the epitome of this cuisine is Tex-Mex, particularly like that in San Antonio or the Texas Hill Country, and of which I don't think there are any great examples in this region.

                      I can think of four distinct common styles (Tex-Mex, California Mex, New Mexican, and authentic Mexican). Generally I find the quality of the meats and toppings is better in the American variations (juicier meat, more seasoning, sauce, and cheese), and the main difference I've found in New Mexican is that everything is available with red or green chilies (rendered down into a kind of sauce).

                      If you're looking for Tex-Mex, the closest I know here are Don Pablo's or Tampico Grill in Laurel, while Baja Fresh is somewhere between Tex-Mex and California Mex. Anita's in No VA is New Mexico style. I know some folks from Texas who like La Palapa but it was pretty bland to me. Diego's in Severna Park is supposed to be good California Mex but I've never made it there.

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                        hon Jun 11, 2008 09:06 AM

                        I think both Don Pablos and La Palapa are just awful.

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                          igrowveggies Jun 11, 2008 11:06 AM

                          I noticed that no one has mentioned El Salto on Ritchie Highway... location isn't so great (an old fast food building in a strip mall parking lot) but the food makes up for it!

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                            hon Jun 11, 2008 11:18 AM

                            If it's anything like the El Salto in Parkville - blehk!

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                              LGood Oct 21, 2008 04:08 PM

                              El Nayar in Catonsville is now open. Went there for lunch and was surprised by the limited offerings of both their lunch and dinner menus. Maybe once they get rolling they will have specials, but for now I would say it was very so so. Oh, and they are BYOB with no corkage for those of you that are interested.

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                        cakeguy Oct 21, 2008 05:42 PM

                        We ordered lunch from el nayar. We were feeding a staff of 20. Each ordered an entree. Serving size was really small. Everyone was hungry afterwards. Food tasted ok but nothing to rave about like some of the postings about the elkridge location.

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                          vivinator Oct 21, 2008 05:53 PM

                          I know that Paolino''s in Catonsville is supposedly chow-worthy. for sicilian pizza.
                          and I'm sure there's more such as Korean.

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                            Jason1 Oct 22, 2008 06:12 AM

                            Interesting. The Elkridge location was is very solid, but I wouldn't have overly high expectations. It's certainly not the best tradtional Mexican, and they have a very limited menu, but it's still very good, fast, and cheap. Now, I just noticed on their website that their Catonsville menu has some major differences: it's more expensive, they highlight platter combos, they highlight fajitas and quesadillas, there's no lengua. Carne Asada and Lengua are the way to go at the Elkridge location, and I recommend focusing on the tacos, tortas and burritos. However, I'm not sure if that holds up in Catonsville.

                            http://www.elnayarusa.com/menus.php

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                              LGood Oct 22, 2008 09:42 AM

                              Had the Carne Azada platter in Catonsville and was very unimpressed. Dry, overcooked, overseasoned piece of steak. Won't be ordering that again, but look forward to trying other things. Also, the Chorizo and Black Bean soup was delicious and I overheard the owner or manager talking about the plans for weekend brunch. Something this area definitely needs.

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                            jasminetea Oct 23, 2008 06:47 AM

                            People in my office have been a couple times and I have tried it once ... I wasn't impressed and either were they. I got a chicken fajita burrito which was very greasy and under-seasoned for Mexican food. Maybe I'm asking a lot because I heard such good things from Elkridge and I inevitably compare all Mexican food to California's (I know, unfair), but something as simple as a fajita burrito shouldn't be too hard to screw up. Maybe I need to try a carne azada taco? The guac was good, but then, guac is always good.

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                              Jason1 Oct 23, 2008 07:22 AM

                              Again, a chicken fajita burrito? I'm pretty sure this isn't an option at the Elkridge location.

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                              rudmansjmu Oct 23, 2008 07:54 PM

                              Went last week and had a really solid dinner for $4. Vegetarian fajita burrito. House salsa was really good too and chips were freshly fried. I'm surprised people were upset about portion size. My meal was a decent size. Not Chipotle huge but close.

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                                sistereurope Oct 31, 2008 08:19 AM

                                Mr. Sistereurope tried it earlier this week...he agreed with several of the posters above in that it was ho -hum. Limited menu and not very "authentic" at all. He summed his experience up by saying that if he worked in Catinsville he might get something there for lunch, but it wasn't as good as he had expected/hoped it would be - and he really missed the lengua!
                                Maybe they'll improve with time...

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                                  hon Oct 31, 2008 10:08 AM

                                  I hope they get it together!

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                                    hon Nov 14, 2008 10:53 AM

                                    So would you say the Taco Trucks in Fells Point aren't authentic because I like the taco trucks as well as Tortilleria and even though I haven't eaten at this place yet, I know that I don't want to based on what I have read here. Greasy or dry and underseasoned meat doesn't sound good or particularly authentic to me.

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