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crn Jun 6, 2008 01:03 PM

Does anyone know if water boils faster with the lid on or without the lid? I have asked a number of people.....I want to know what most of you think.

crn

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    hsk Jun 12, 2008 07:12 PM

    With lid, assuming you're boiling cold water. You have to get the water up to temperature first, so evaporative cooling and vapour pressure aren't an issue (at least initially), keeping the heated vapour in, and transferring heat to the liquid water are a bigger factor. If you're boiling hot water, and just trying to get bubbles, it might be faster to leave the lid off.

    1. Gio Jun 12, 2008 06:33 PM

      Mother always said, " a watched pot never boils."

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        jfood Jun 12, 2008 06:49 PM

        sorry gio but jfood's mom told him the same thing and he disproved this theory when he was an obnoxious teen in front of his mom. needless to say he went to bed without dinner that night.

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          Gio Jun 12, 2008 07:29 PM

          Oh dear sorry for that loss jfood!

          I was also told to not put the lid on the macaroni water after the pasta was thrown into the water. Later in life I learned that lid on - lid off made no difference to the cooking time. Good thing The Mater wasn't looking.....

        2. re: Gio
          Striver Jun 13, 2008 05:30 AM

          You know, I've done some thinking about this old maxim, and I've concluded that our modern interpretation is wrong. In the old days (and today), when you boiled porridge or something similar in a pot, the one thing you didn't want was for the pot to boil over, possibly putting out the fire - so you paid close attention to the pot in order to prevent that from happening (by stirring, moving the pot off the flame briefly - or lowering the burner, today).

          Hence the helpful hint: a watched pot never boils <over>. This makes sense to me in a way that the other interpretation never did - after all, as jfood has noted, it's very easy to prove the statement in that sense is simply false.

          YMMV, of course. :)

          1. re: Striver
            Gio Jun 13, 2008 06:25 AM

            "Hence the helpful hint: a watched pot never boils <over>."

            Well now, that makes perfect sense to me as well!!

            1. re: Striver
              The Dairy Queen Jun 13, 2008 07:09 AM

              Huh. I always thought that expression was about patience. Who knew!

              ~TDQ

              1. re: Striver
                jfood Jun 13, 2008 08:48 AM

                jfood loves that interpretation, very refreshing.

                now he just needs to take that swinging up-down motion of the pointing index finger and the shrilly statement out of his head and replace with this positive spin on the addage.

                thanks for making jfood's day.

                1. re: jfood
                  Striver Jun 13, 2008 08:52 AM

                  No prob...incidentally, after posting the above I did some quick net checking and found that my interpretation had been suggested by others (no surprise), but that there's nothing that really supports it.

                  It makes sense to me, though, so I'm sticking with it!

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              wontonfm Jun 12, 2008 06:18 PM

              without a doubt, with a lid.

              WON
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                NVJims Jun 9, 2008 05:43 PM

                There are several things that come into play. First of all, the lid traps the higher 'humidity' which reduces evaporative cooling. It tends to contain and reflect heat. Lastly there is a micro increase of pressure that also helps reduce evaporative cooling. There is some interesting physics involved with boiling liquids.

                1. scoopG Jun 6, 2008 06:19 PM

                  Boiling a pot of water with the lid on is 1/3rd faster than without the lid on.

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                    Harters Jun 6, 2008 03:07 PM

                    With lid - for reason stated.

                    BTW, those folk who told you "without"......did they suggest a reason why?

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                      kmcarr Jun 7, 2008 03:15 PM

                      Here's a guess. Because if it's a heavy lid the pressure inside the pot will rise slightly causing the boiling point of the water to increase. Note that the water may reach 100°C (at sea level) faster but it won't *boil*. Now when you lift the lid off you have released that pressure and the water may boil furiously (like super heating water in the microwave) causing a burn.

                      Me personally, always with the lid on but I'm careful when removing it. I also don't salt my water until it is at a rolling boil. Not anything to do with how fast it will boil; I don't like a big pile of undissolved salt sitting on the bottom of my pot and possibly reacting with the metal.

                    2. DanaB Jun 6, 2008 02:19 PM

                      As others have noted, it boils faster with the lid, since the lid traps the heat.

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                        EdwardAdams Jun 6, 2008 01:14 PM

                        Heat rises. Since a lid will slow this action some, a pot with lid will boil slightly sooner, although is shouldn't be a large effect on a standard sized pot on a standard range top. The larger the volume of water and the smaller the burner, more effect since the time to boil and time to transfer heat to the room would be longer.

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                          Sean Jun 6, 2008 01:42 PM

                          It traps the rising heat and definately boils faster.

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