Richmond Hill - favs and foodie finds?
I just moved to Richmond Hill...wondering if fellow foodies/Richmond Hillers have any particular foodie suggestions for bakeries/restaurants in the area that have something outstanding to offer.
My current faves:
The Old Bread Mill bakery on Oxford St.
Kessler's Pastries on Levendale
Hannah's at 9301 Bathurst
Willy's Chinese Restaurant on Yonge St
Any thoughts from the Chowhound group?













The new place on Leslie called Allusion is defintely worth trying. It's upscale but at least for the time being you won't need a reservation.
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Thanks for the tip! I read the review in the Toronto Star and it sounded really good...plus it's in such a hot competitive area that I figured they had to be good or else!
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If you go I recommend saving some room for dessert. They really have dessert nailed down there.
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Dessert..ohhhh....thanks muchly...can't wait to try it out!
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When was it reviewed(exact date, & was it a Wednesday or Saturday review)? I'm visiting Toronto next month, & definitely check out Richmond Hill for Chinese eats.
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I went to Allusion last night and was very disappointed. Everything was bland and tasteless and is very expensive for what it's worth.
Definitely NOT recommended!
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Actually I unfortunately have to agree. I went there last night and had some really tiny lobster ravioli that had no lobster flavour at all, and sea bass with a bland oily sauce.
Dessert still rocked, service was good, and it's relatively cheap, my whole meal came out to less than $40. I still won't be going back though, it seems like there menu is a roulette wheel.
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Then it's good my SO and I passed on it recently, after being right at the door and peeking at their menu and the interior. We both felt that something was not right about that place. Maybe it's the fusion slant? We're both very adventurous chowers, but certainly don't want to take the risk with a nice dinner, at least not too much.
So, gradyn, how does their dessert rock? Is it worth going there just for that?
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Wow, you've really gotten around already. I lived in RH for four years and I never tried any of those places you mention.
One little place that I really like, not a restaurant, but for take-out/grocery, is a little Russian Deli in the plaza where Sobey's is at Bathurst and Centre. It's in the little extra plaza at the north end of the parking lot. They sell deli meats and prepared salads and they have interesting Russian groceries. I've purchased their prepared salads and sausages and they were really good. Especially this shredded carrot salad they have that's spicy.
The only thing is they barely speak English, but they are very friendly and if you point enough, they will know what you want and they will offer you samples.
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I'm curious about Willy's. Do they do delivery? What would you recommend from them? We usually order from Golden Hoy on Yonge at Major Mac. They border on Canadian Chinese but some dishes are pretty authentic.
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I'm a lacto-ovo vegetarian, so I wouldn't be able to recommend the meat dishes but my coworkers are constantly getting combos from the lunch menu (I think it's $6 for lunch with an egg roll (?). I really enjoyed their Chili Tofu (deep friend tofu in a spicy/slightly sweet sauce with onions and chilis). I will definitely check out Golden Hoy too...I have heard good things about them as well.
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I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian also and would love to know what your favs are at Willy's. As for Golden Hoy, they're pretty accommodating if I ask for something to be made vegetarian eg noodles or tofu subbed for meat in regular dishes.
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I'll admit that we order Golden Hoy fairly frequently (it's just around the corner, and it's cheap), but it doesn't border on Canadian-Cheese; it's the friggin' capital. The sweet-sour sauce gives neon a run for its money, and contains slightly less cornstarch than Iowa produces annually. The egg rolls are tough wrappers stuffed with bean sprouts; don't expect any pork or shrimp. The hot and sour soup is neither hot nor sour, and breaded anything is more bread than anything.
That said, they do some things well. It's hard to mess up fried rice, and stir-fried beef or pork with various veggies are OK. The Cantonese chow mein is probably their best dish (I especially like it cold the morning after).
But anything they call "hot" is really warm, at best. The spice level has been toned down for Richmond Hill palates.
Now, for some places I really like:
Shi-Ki Sushi on Yonge near Elgin has terrific lunch specials. Steer Inn serves frozen burgers, but has the best onion rings, so it's not bad overall. What-A-Bagel (a little south of Steer Inn) has great bagels and pastries, especially if you get there early, and the bagels are still warm.
Other people don't like Vic Hong at Major Mac and Bayview, but we do. Perhaps it's because we've been going for over ten years (including their old location), and they know us.
High end Chinese: Ambassador and O-Mei on Highway 7. Second the Richmond Court recommendation for something less expensive. Royal 16 on 16th between Leslie and Bayview is also quite good. And, if memory serves, there is a vegetarian chinese place near Richmond Court, but it may be closed; haven't been for a while.
Casting a bit farther afield, Terra (Yonge, s. of Hwy 7) is probably the best restaurant in the general area. Service can be slow, though. And just a few streets south of Terra is Dante's, which offers great Italian sandwiches, salads, pastas, and mains. (Dante's pizza - not so much).
We have tried four of the new Persian spots over the last year; won't go back to any of them.
Finally: it looks old and weather beaten from the outside, but the Three Coins does make a pretty good breakfast. Real home fries, eggs competently prepared - my only complaint is the coffee, which is weak.
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We like Golden Hoy because their delivery is fast and as you said, they are reasonably priced. I usually just stick to their noodle dishes. And you're right, nothing is very spicy even though it's supposed to be, eg Szechuan lo mein. I usually have to add hot sauce. I do like that the egg rolls don't have meat because I'm vegetarian. Besides, they are only $1.00. For me it's really just an excuse to eat plum sauce.
I agree with your choices of Terra and Dante's. We have also tried a few Persian places and did not like them. I was beginning to wonder if we just didn't like Persian food.
For greasy breakfast, I prefer Golden Flame over Three Coins, though we've only gone back once after their Restaurant Makeover. Their booths were ugly but I miss them. Their home fries are better than Three Coins'. Another good place for greasy breakfast is Kotsy's on Hwy 7 near Keele.
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Peter Kuitenbrouwer (sp?) had a review of the Three Coins in today's (Wednesday) National Post. Apparently their coffee has improved, as they now have a new cook in charge. Have to try it out!
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I'd hardly call it a review.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/cana...
DT
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Ambassador is definitely my favourite Chinese resto in RH. I really enjoy their peking duck and hot & sour soup (their hot & sour soup is seafood based and it's delish). I don't think I tried one thing there that I didn't like.
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If you're looking for a Hot & Sour soup that rocks you gotta try the Chinese restaurant in Oak Ridges next to the No Frills on Yonge. Its a small joint that serves both chinese food and fish & chips. I was hesitant to try at first but let me tell you i was amazed. Their hot & sour soup was very tasty. Alot of flavour and yet no MSG. Some places I've had where the soup would taste like lifeless dishwater! They chicken balls are an absolute must try! I have never in my life seen a restaurant that would actually use so much chicken in a chicken ball!! No wonder they are always busy!
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Check out the Chinese place next to the No Frills in Oak Ridges. A+ food. I highly recommend the hot & sour soup. flavour galour!
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I like a Chinese Restaurant called Richmond Court. It's in the Times Square plaza which is Hwy 7 and Leslie.
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oh yum. i love this place too, except I usually go to the one on Hwy 7 (i forget the intersection) the beef ho-fun is FANTASTIC. plus, if you go to the bakery next door, buy two get one free buns! i love the deep fried curry beef ones. if you go early enough on weekends, there is also dimsum in the bakery.
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Ichiban beside value village is pretty good, espeically for all you can eat.
Tomo is good too, but they don't have all you can eat. Their rolls are look really nice
I used to go to Old Bread Mill, but I think St Phillips is better (not in RH though)
For Chinese, I think you would definitely have to go to Highway 7 region. Anything that is too north (Elgin Mills) reminds me of those small town Chinese restaurants that mostly serve fried food.
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I forgot to mention that I like Restoran Malaysia on Major Mack e. of Bayview.
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I'm a fan of this place too. Others have reported lukewarm experiences, but I've always enjoyed everything I've gotten. Mind, I've only done take-out so far, the place is always too crowded to even think about dining in.
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I'll defintely second Restoran Malaysia. Also I have a lacto-ovo vegetarian friend that likes eating there so there non-meat options must be pretty good.
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I would like to say that I also rec this place, but the one time I went, I waited TWO HOURS for my appetizers! TWO!! They kept telling me, "oh it's just about ready". My friends have told me about tedious waiting times as well.
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Three Coins.
Great greasy spoon.
DT
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I have been meaning to go to Three Coins! I should mention that I work in Richmond Hill but lived near Scarborough before...so the need/opportunity to purchase a lot wasn't there.
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I know many of these have been written about in other threads but here's a few you might want to consider:
Original Souvlaki on the Park...haven't been in quite a while but it used to be basic but tasty Greek takeout ie, souvlaki on a bun, on a stick, as a dinner. The address is Yonge Street but to get to it you have to enter off Centre Street (by the United Church) and make the first right into the alleyway and drive past the bookstore,
Joe's Burgers (burgers, falafel, etc. Halal?) on Yonge St. just north of Elgin Mills
Shalimar Gardens...I've only done a bit of take out here but we enjoyed it...pakoras, samosas...interesting spicing, flavourful, inexpensive. But it is a sit-down restaurant, we've just never got around to trying it.
Nando's...Yonge near Weldrick in the Weston Produce Plaza ...Portuguese style chicken with piri piri sauce...not great churassco style but a welcome departure from Swiss Chalet
If you want to travel north up Yonge Street stop at Grandma's Oven Bakery in Oak Ridges (which is technically still in Richmond Hill). Solid, well-priced European style breads. Lots of locals sit-in and enjoy a sandwich, and a coffee, tea, hot choc. and a fresh baked pastry or cookie.
Also in Oak Ridges/Lake Wilcox area are several Italian restos (I can't eat Italian) but I know many others who enjoy Fellini's Eatery (right by the Oak Ridges Market), Oregano North in the No Frill's Plaza, and the just south of there in the Scotiabank plaza (I think it starts with a T?).
Plus, has anyone tried the new Korean BBQ that opened next to Prima Dona's fitness club at Yonge and Crosby?
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I really wasn't wowed by Oregano North. Good service, food was ok-good but not great by any means .. ingredients were so-so. Wild mushrooms turned out to be button and only button (although the dish was nicely seasoned and tasted good). They have also turned off their wood pizza oven and no longer do pizzas. Overall pretty forgettable and I don't see myself going back since it isn't exactly priced in the come back often category (for me at least).
Joes Hamburger serves up really nice portions of food and the price is quite decent. So-so falafel but the sharwama is good and like said, portions are generous. Wife and I like doing take out from them every now and then.
There's Melody on the main street stretch for Hungarian. I don't know very much about hungarian food at all but I found it quite tasty and nicely 'down to earth'.
If you don' t mind the trek and the cost, Solo Sushi-ya in Newmarket is excellent Japanese. I usually order the omakase (since I only go on special occasions) but I notice plenty of regulars sitting in everytime I go. Owner/chef is a colourful character when you get into conversation with him.
I like Restoran Malaysia. I grew up in Singapore and I get very nostalgic for the food. Some folks might find it 'not so authentic' but when you miss the flavours, it's all I've got and they are really quite good with many of the dishes they serve. Just don't try to compare $$ with what you would pay in Malaysia for the same food. Costs at least 10x more here (or worse).
Please keep this post going. I need new places to try.
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My husband and I LOVE the sushi at MI-NE at Yonge and Elgin Mills. The freshest sushi, and friendly staff. I'd kill for a golden dragon roll right about now. We were not impressed with Three Coins -- Kraft singles in their cheese omelet. Really good fish and chips restaurant in the Loblaws plaza at Yonge and Elgin...I think it's called York or something. It's a few down from William's .
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best food by far in Richmond Hill is Cantonese Chinese, no doubt about it.
Look up any of the Chinese threads and the majority of the ones listed will be in RH or Markham, mostly along Hwy 7. Ones often mentioned by our resident chinese experts (Skyline, royaljelly) are.....
Regal 16
O Mei
Empire Court
Casa Imperial/Casa Victoria/Full House (same ownership for all 3)
malls to check out include Times Square, First Markham Place, Commerce Gate, Peachtree Plaza.
I highly second the rec for Solo-Sushi Ya, worth the drive up to Newmarket.
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The best onion rings by far are at Steer Inn on Yonge south of Major Mackenzie. Hollywood Panini on Yonge south of Major Mack beside Shoppers Drugs had some fantastic sandwiches.
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Has Hollywood Panini changed their menu since Restaurant Makeover? I tried them a couple of times before and was disappointed that they did not use a panini grill for their sandwiches. I hope this has changed.
Cheers!
ps. has anyone tried Cosmopolitan Bistro on Yonge near Steer Inn?
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ok - I have to say I had the onion rings recently and they were soaked in oil, they repeated on me all day! As for Hollywood Panini, they used to be good. The ownership changed hands about a year ago and I found the veal sandwiches went downhill from there. Meat wasn't tender at all. If you want a "real" veal sandwich you'll have to travel Toronto and try California Sandwiches - by far the best I've ever had!
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Oh, you don't have to go that far. The veal sandwich from the steam table at Old Mill Bakery is quite good, and you get to choose your own type of bun, which means I can get a crusty Calabrese roll instead of the usual bland, mushy kaiser you get elsewhere. Not that California doesn't make a great sandwich, but that's a long way to go for a marginal improvement, IMHO.
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Abruzzo Pizza on Yonge, just south of 16th. Best calzone (panzerotto) in the area. They have the option of baking it or frying it. I always get it fried.
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I moved from Toronto - Richmond Hill - back to Toronto recently. And I have to say, the food in R.Hill was not great. Here are the gems that I found:
-J-Grille @ Bayview/Major Mack. This is authentic japanese food... you must try the Miso Ramen and the donburi
-Old Mill bakery is great -- get their pizza dough for homemade pizza
-Kenny's Gourmet -- at Major Mack and Leslie has good casual chinese food
hope that gives you a few more options
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Sadly, JGrill closed down a while ago, replaced by some generic japanese place.
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For Chinese we've always bought from Choice of the Orient (Yonge & Weldrick). Always fresh and never greasy. We've served it to guests and they raved about it.
I agree with Old Mill Bakery, great on every level, but for pizza dough, sounds crazy, but try the dough from No Frills. I've made some great homemade pizza with this dough.
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Is the Rhapsody Hungarian restaurant still there on Yonge in the old part of Richmond Hill...fabulous goulash...sizzling schnitzel...gypsy violinist...Marimba!
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Rhapsody's still open as far as I know. Great goulash. Across the street on east side of Yonge is The Richmond Grill. Amazing grilled calamari...best I've ever had. That was a couple years ago now though that I've been. Anyone know if it's still great?
Tomo Sushi is FRESH! Owner was the Presidential Chef in Japan and must have good connections to get the freshest seafood. Avoid the 'All You Can Eat' place in the old McDonald's (for you long-time residents) on Yonge south of Elgin Mills (where the ProBowl is). Dirty sushi bar and we waited forever for take-out...we ended up leaving and going south to Tomo Sushi even though we had to drive all the way back up to our friend's in Oak Ridges. Tomo's prices are reasonable and well worth it...best we've had. Better than the pricey Yorkville sushi place we went to.
Best fish & chips are still at Old Galley beside Tomo Sushi, that took over their spot when Old Galley moved next door to take over the Swiss Chalet when it moved down to Carrville & Yonge. Tomo has renovated a few months ago and expanded into part of the Old Galley so it's not hard to find a booth. We've had to sit at the sushi bar in past, but got to chat a bit with the owner, who doesn't speak much English, but is friendly enough and waves now when we come in. We were one of his first customers when they opened a couple years back.
I've lived almost my whole life in Richmond Hill and I've not yet been to Three Coins. It had a 'bad reputation' when I was younger. Much has changed since the 'good ole days' when Richmond Hill was a working man's town and Oak Ridges was the biker hangout in the 70s. Everything is more 'up-scale', but some of the originals like Three Coins, Golden Flame, and Steer Inn are still around. Notice they are all 'greasy spoons' that survive the times.
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One more thing about TOMO...it has the best miso soup I've ever had too. It's automatically included as a starter soup when you order food. It has some sort of grain?/rice?, like soggy rice crispy sized pieces, in the bottom that actually add unusual texture to the soup. But it has a great flavour I've not found in any other sushi place. I maybe shouldn't promote TOMO's too much...I won't find a seat next time I go! :-)
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The place on Yonge s. of Elgin Mills is called "Shi Ki", and our family visits it at least once a month for weekend lunch. We don't bother with all you can eat; the lunch specials are more than enough. I get their Sashimi lunch special, and for $9.95, you get edamame, soup, salad, about 12-15 pieces of sashimi, rice, and a few pieces of California roll (fake crab). The food has always been good, and we have never felt disappointed. We don't sit at the sushi bar; we sit at a table, so I can't comment on the cleanliness of the sushi bar, but the tables, plates, etc. have always been sparking clean, and the place is bright and airy. Again, as with Vic Hong, where we are also regular diners, we might get special attention because we come back so often. But I've never been disappointed in at least 30 trips to Shi-Ki.
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I've been to TOMO over the weekend for a birthday occasion and it was bitterly DISAPPOINTING.
If you want really fresh sushi and authentic Japanese food, TOMO does not make the grade. I'm not sure whether the chef was the former chef of the Japanese President, but most of the staff there appeared Korean. I have nothing against Chinese or Korean runned Japanese places. But I have to acknowledge that most of them do not provide the same attention to detail as well as their commitment to authenticiy/perfection that most Japanese runned restaurant have. Also, there are Korean selections on the menu, so that's an indication.
We ordered a sashimi dinner, fish was only average; only a slight cut above the all you can eat restaurants. The terriyaki salmon was overcooked and the terriyaki sauce did not taste like terriyaki sauce (Salmon should never be served on a sizzling platter to begin with...guarantee way of overcooking it). The miso soup and salad was alright though.
But to make the experience worse, the service was pretty horrible. I acknowledge that we did arrive late for the reservation, but the hostess was rude and practically ignored us when we waited for several minutes at the front. The same hostess also saw our bill while we waited for a long time and purposely walked past it. The other staff are OK. But overall, I do not recommend this place if you want high quality Japanese food and a good meal experience..
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Ah, so that might be why Richmond Hill didn't really pick up as a city for upscale-ish food.
I have been to Three Coins recently. I would still go there, but more for the ambience and atmosphere.
And it's good to know that Old Galley is still around and raving. I had some memorable meals there in the far past.
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Not upscale? Try some of the higher end Chinese places; you get a better meal than you do at downtown spots that charge higher prices. My only surprise is, given the number of Italians who live in Richmond Hill, there are no really good spots for Italian. There is also no good steak house (Outback and Montana's don't count for me).
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It goes without saying on this board, that Richmond Hill does contain some of the best Chinese restaurants in GTA ;) What I meant was really upscale non-Chinese restaurants, where one can take a break from the chopsticks. And yes, that includes Italian restaurants and steakhouses :)
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For strict vegetarians/vegans, try Gourmet Vegetarian Restaurant as a Chinese food restaurant with 'faux' meat dishes galore! The best dish I tried was the sweet and sour chicken. It was better than real chicken! This was with the Richmond Hill chapter of the Vegetarian Club (my brother and Taiwanese sister-in-law are members, so my mom and I came out once). We got to try a number of dishes. Everything was good.
It actually was a bit disappointing to not have a lot of vegetables-only dishes to chose from, less than half a dozen. Faux meat was in almost all dishes and all the rage among the Veggie Group members. I was 'converted' with that chicken dish as I am a real veggie-lover mainly and don't really like meat too much, especially 'faux' meat. I just don't 'get it', except for the animal-lover angle, on why anyone would become a vegan and eat mainly stuff that looks and tastes as close to meat as possible. Maybe some veggie/vegans don't like vegetables?? Location: 280 West Beaver Creek Road (Hwy 7 & Leslie area) Decor is a bit drab, lighting is blinding fluorescent and the communal tables are really only good for large groups, or if you speak Cantonese. It was packed with our large group in this rather smallish restaurant. I don't know what it's like on other nights.
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The deep-fried-then-stewed-gluten type of dishes that you find at all Chinese vegetarian restaurants -- maybe it is for giving more fullness to the stomach, being more oily? In addition to more flavour and texture? I think deep-frying the gluten tends to make it last longer too, given how I imagine they used to make it back in the old days, by hand.
And yes I agree it's funny when people talk about Chinese vegetarian, the first thing that comes to mind are those faux meat dishes. But then, they are, for some, me included, the main draw to going to those types of restaurants in the first place! If you want non-faux-meat Chinese vegetarian dishes such as bok choi, mushrooms etc., any decent "regular" Chinese restaurant should have those on the menu!
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London Pub & Grill. The food was amazing. Can't wait to head back there. Good variety of brew on tap as well.
Not sure of the intersection but it's at 9724 Yonge St.
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MINI VIET! - best Asian resto deal in Richmond HIll? Yes!
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Richmond Hill Chowhounds must visit MINI VIET's new location at the Weston Produce Plaza (sadly not at all visible from Yonge St, it's beside the shoe repair shop). Our family used to frequent this restaurant when they were at Woodbine and 16th, and searched for this level of yumminess all over Markham and York region when they closed. How thrilled we were when we somehow found them relocated to Richmond Hill!!
Service is A+. The decor is hardly upscale, but it's very clean and pleasant. It's a family run business. The owner's wife is the chef. Some days you'll find their 6 year old daughter hanging around after school. They don't speak English very well, but who cares? Our family is there at least once a week b/c they're so warm and welcoming. And the food? Like homemade Asian, but better!
OK, let's get to the food... First of all, very reasonably priced and portions are more than generous. Our family of 5 ordered the following last Saturday night:
1) large pho - rare + well done beef. The broth is incomparable!
2) Hainan chicken platter w/ rice. Ask for it with the garlic rice, you won't be sorry!
3) Honey garlic spare ribs. So good I can't describe it, just order it already!
4) Mango chicken - deep fried chicken, mango + chili sauce. You gotta try this.
5) Pad thai noodles. A little spicy, not the best, but the portion, huge!
Portions were so generous we had lots to take home for lunch the next day.
Dessert, free on weekends, was a family-size Thai coconut rice pudding . They topped this up too, and let us take it home. It's like eating at grandma's house!
Best of all, total for all of the above was $45 incl tax. Yes, for a family of 5 w/ 2 teenagers!
They offer $6.99 lunch specials, too.
Can't wait to get back there.... again!
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I am totally stunned!
When I ate there over a month ago, the food was very mediocre, definitely not up to the standard of other good 'authentic' Vietnamese restaurants around the GTA. Reason why I said 'authentic'?! Well, I noticed the male owner of Mini Viet is Chinese and he conversed in Mandarin with his Chinese chef in the kitchen! IMO,lots of better tasting Vietnamese restaurants within the Time Square complex. However, still not as authentic as the downtown ones!
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Charles -
Looking at goodmom's order, how could anyone think it was a Vietnamese place? Hainan chicken? Honey garlic ribs? Pad Thai? The pho was the only Vietnamese dish she had. It's like saying you loved an Italian restaurant where you ate borscht, beef Wellington, souvlaki, and spatzle, with an appetizer of carpaccio.
Any space left in your November dinner?
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Thats what I thought!
Sorry KevinB, today's Chowmeet way over-subscribed! May be next time?!
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I agree Charles, my friend and I went a couple weeks ago, trying to break the habit of having vietnamese in times square. we both ordered pho at Mini Viet and were very disappointed, it wasn't very tasty, there was a lack of thai basil and we had to ask for lime and bean sprouts. For that kind of dish, there's nothing that makes it worthwhile to go there when a couple of the places in Times Square have similar if not better options.
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Vic Hong at Major Mac and Bayview makes good Viet food, but they don't call it "pho"; they just call it "noodle in soup". Try "Centre Vietnamese Style" (#53, IIRC) - spicy, fragrant broth that's (to me) irresistible. Some spring rolls, and a mixed platter of BBQ, and we always leave satisfied.
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Mini Viet - same plaza as Tomo and Old Galley.
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Other faves:
Mi-Ne... the crunch roll? dreamy!
Joe's Hamburgers.
We'll try Tomo and Old Galley next time.
And, very much looking forward to the opening of Panera.
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Old Galley has closed!
I haven't tried Panera's food yet but my husband has and he quite liked their sandwiches.
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Old galley is back located at Yonge & Elgin Mills in the NW corner where "t-jays" used to be. It's called "new galley" now.
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My personal fav (until the new management kicked in a few months ago) was the Thailand restaurant on Yonge st. a bit north of Major mac. DELISH! they had the best pad thai and cashew nut chicken dishes. The owners (The loveliest couple) moved back to Thailand to retire and their nefew took over for a bit...he then also went back home and someone else is in charge now. Dont like it as much as when the previous owners ran the place, but still a great spot for some delicious authentic Thai food!
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decided to give this thread a bump,
has anyone tried the Shwaramas at Joes Hamburgers on the northeast corner of Yonge and Elgin Mills?
AMAZINGGG stuff IMO. and for a very good price. spent 10$ for 2 and theyre STUFFED.
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