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romanruin May 21, 2008 01:53 PM

Five baseball fans and adventurous eaters (kids 19, 18, 15) want the full SF chow experience. Staying just north of Union Square (on Bush) and will be using transit.
Have all day Saturday in SF, going over to Oakland for 1:00 ballgame on Sunday; all day Monday in SF with 7PM Giants game that night.
Not price-sensitive but "boisterous ethnic/local/unique" preferred over fine dining (not our scene). Very good at grazing; can walk miles; hate chains.
Any advice would be most welcome; and will be reciprocated when you visit multicultural Toronto, which is a great eating city, by the way.

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    romanruin Jul 2, 2008 08:04 AM

    Just wanted to thank everyone for the help - we had an excellent stay in SF and ate very well. Took the advice and focused on Mexican and Thai.
    Highlights were Ar Roi (the green curry was amazing); breakfast at the Ferry Plaza Market; dinner at Colibri (maybe too authentic for Torontonians); lunch (on our way to the A's game) in Fruitvale - really cool little town full of great street food; Japantown - can't go wrong; and the Slanted Door, which was all its cracked up to be.

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    1. re: romanruin
      Robert Lauriston Jul 2, 2008 08:44 AM

      What do you mean by "maybe too authentic"?

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        romanruin Jul 2, 2008 01:52 PM

        Didn't mean it in a bad way, but we have generally brutal Mexican choices here in Toronto. So after the appetizers, which were very good, the food was challenging and unfamiliar, but apparently very close to authentic. By contrast, at the taquerias of Fruitvale, the food was more familiar - we know what burritos, quesadillas and pepusas are, we just did not realize that they could taste that good.

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      BikeToEat May 23, 2008 05:38 PM

      Ar Roi (Thai restaurant at 643 Post) has amazing Tom Yum soup. Other dishes are great too, but it's the soup that keeps me coming back. It makes a great quick, light lunch.

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        Mr. Eaty May 21, 2008 09:38 PM

        I'll let other people recommend specific venues but as someone who's pretty well familiar with the food in both SF and Toronto, I'll just recommend that you focus on Mexican and Thai. I think in most cuisines Toronto can match SF (with more or less ease) but for some reason, Toronto just has problems with those two.

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        1. re: Mr. Eaty
          Robert Lauriston May 22, 2008 01:49 PM

          By far the best Thai in SF is:

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          Thai House Express
          901 Larkin St, San Francisco, CA 94109

        2. Ruth Lafler May 21, 2008 08:42 PM

          Since you're going over to Oakland and taking transit, either before or after the game stop one stop before the Coliseum BART stop and explore the Mexican district at Fruitvale. Walk the blocks of International between Fruitvale and High St. and hit a couple of taco trucks, fruit carts (ask for corn on the cob with everything), taquerias, etc. My favorite sit-down places are Otaez and El Huarche Azteca.

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          1. re: Ruth Lafler
            Ruth Lafler May 21, 2008 08:47 PM

            Places links:

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            El Huarache Azteca
            3842 International Blvd, Oakland, CA 94601

            Otaez
            3872 International Blvd, Oakland, CA 94601

            1. re: Ruth Lafler
              Dave MP May 21, 2008 09:35 PM

              I like Ruth's idea of exploring Fruitvale, especially because you can be there at a perfect time for lunch. Also, it's very different from Toronto.

              Things you can eat there will be much better than what you can get at the A's game - as Nina points out, it's also an option to bring food into the park.

              Also in Fruitvale: Nieves Cinco de Mayo

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              Nieves Cinco de Mayo
              3340 E 12th St, Oakland, CA 94601

            2. re: Ruth Lafler
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              Nina May 21, 2008 09:22 PM

              Or if time is short or feet are tired, there is a pretty good Vietnamese place in the Fruitvale BART station, where you can pick up banh mi and take them to the ballpark.
              Because the Red Sox are in town, the game on Sunday will be pretty crowded, so you might be better off getting food outside. You can bring food and non-alcoholic beverages into the Coliseum, as long as your bag is not too large (grocery store plastic bags always work well). If you don't want to shlep sodas a long way, there is a cart right inside the BART station as you head for the bridge to the ballpark, where you can buy drinks for about a fourth of what they'll charge you inside.
              If you do want to get food at the Coliseum, the best bets are the Saag's sausages (although it is absurdly crowded) and the BBQ stands on either side of the lower concourse, just before the bleachers. Don't bother with the garlic fries there, they are better at AT&T Park. Avoid the fish and chips. There are a lot of vendors in the stands, particularly selling ice cream. You can't buy alcohol from vendors though -- you have to go into the concourse and stand in line. On a non-food note, I always tell out-of-town visitors to be sure they bring batteries for their cameras, etc. because you can't buy them anywhere at the Coliseum, for reasons of unfortunate incidents in the distant past.

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              Saigon Wraps
              3301 E 12th St, Oakland, CA 94601

              1. re: Nina
                Ruth Lafler May 21, 2008 09:35 PM

                Note that you can bring in food and drink, but no cans or glass bottles. So basically, any drinks need to be in plastic bottles or cardboard cartons.

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                  Nina May 21, 2008 10:16 PM

                  Yes, right. For the same unfortunate historical reasons as the batteries....

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              Calvinist May 21, 2008 03:24 PM

              A few of the usual tips:

              Go to the Ferry Building, esp. Satuday morning for the Farmers Market. Plenty of grazing, unique experience.

              Try to get to one or more or SF's outstanding mid-range places: Defina, Incanto, La Ciccia, Zuni. Around Defina in the Mission is the Bi-Rite Creamery.

              Ethnic? Maybe Burma Superstar (Burmese) or Yank Sing (Dim Sum)

              Tadich Grill is good for fresh simple seafood, in one of the older SF resturaunts.

              The nice thing is another poster could (and probably will) come up with an equally good list that's completely different!

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              Zuni Cafe
              1658 Market Street, San Francisco, CA 94102

              La Ciccia
              291 30th Street, San Francisco, CA 94131

              Burma Superstar Restaurant
              309 Clement St, San Francisco, CA 94118

              Incanto Restaurant & Wine Bar
              1550 Church St, San Francisco, CA 94131

              Bi-Rite Creamery
              3692 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

              Tadich Grill
              240 California St, San Francisco, CA 94111

              Yank Sing Banquet & Catering
              101 Spear St, San Francisco, CA 94105

              Delfina Restaurant
              3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

              Pizzeria Delfina
              3611 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

              Capay Organic - consolidated in Ferry Bldg #9
              1 Ferry, Bldg San Francisco, CA

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