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Best burger and beer in LA? (PJ Clark's in LA)

So I grew up in LA and have sampled many a burger, both good and bad, and realized that aside from In N' Out I don't really have a go-to never-fails burger joint. The problem with the latter is that I can't enjoy a beer at the same time. I recently went to New York and ate at PJ Clark's on 55th and 3rd. That is what I am looking for in LA. A great place to eat with friends, amazing tasting and amazingly simple burgers, small and dark, and a tall glass of ice cold beer. No frills, no gimmicks, no kobe! Can anyone point me to the PJ Clark's equivalent in the LA area? Please, no Father's Office replies, I live in Santa Monica and love that place and their food but it's a pain in my @$$.

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  1. Do a search. This is a topic that comes up often, and there's a huge thread on it, the quintessential thread called "best burger in LA"

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    1. re: yogachik

      I read through most of that thread, and yes it is incredibly long. The problem is I have eaten at several of those places and although there are many fantastic burgers, I'm really looking for the "burger and beer" experience without all the hipster BS that comes along with Father's Office. Lucky Devil's seems to be the most common answer so far. Thank you though.

      1. re: Walshky

        the burger at the bowery is pretty good...albeit a tad smaller than i anticipated it to be. definitely a hipster joint as they proudly feature PBR. muahahaha!

        1. re: wilafur

          Can't go wrong with PBR as long as it comes in a can! It used to be all I could afford, so I stick with it. I will be trying that burger soon.

          1. re: wilafur

            I liked the burger I got for my birthday at the bowery last week. got the works with blue cheese. burger came with caramelized onions, bacon, blue cheese. It was overdone (medium instead of medium rare) and apparently this is pretty common here so ask for rarer than you like. the english muffin is better than i thought at holding up to the beef juices, though I was initially skeptical.

          2. re: Walshky

            I don't know about at "PJ Clark's equivalent" since I've never been, but I am very happy enjoying the Happy Hour at OINKSTER, in Eagle Rock...I get a burger with fries and the best pickels, and a pint of Stella on Tap all for $7.

            1. re: tatertotsrock

              That's worth the drive. I will have to check that out. Cheers.

              1. re: Walshky

                It would totally be worth the drive...I happen to keep finding myself driving to the new FO location in Culver City...scheduling appointments that will get me to a Burger and Beer within 10 minutes of their opening time.
                Luckily I only live 5 minutes from OINKSTER.
                I suggest going to their sight and signing up...I just got my "birthday entree" email and a "free dessert" email that I can't wait to use for my birthday next week!

                1. re: tatertotsrock

                  tatertotsrock, happy belated birthday! did you get your birthday entree and free dessert at OINKSTER?

                  1. re: alkapal

                    Thanks, alkapal, for the BD wishes!
                    Yep, went to Oinkster for a burger and a cupcack with oneo f my friends...it was his first time and he loved it!!!
                    Oinkster has been a great place for writing my business plan...what can get you motivated to write a business plan for a fitness studio...a burger and a beer!!!
                    Yum!

                    1. re: tatertotsrock

                      I guess that depends on how many reps.

        2. Have you been to Hinano in Venice?

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          1. re: mollyomormon

            Yes! Used to live right there. Never had the burger but I highly recommend the hot dog.

            1. re: Walshky

              Don't know if it's the vibe you're going for, but definitely try the burger! And I'll have to try the hot dog!

              1. re: Walshky

                Learning about it on this board, I have wanted to check out Hinano for the burger. It is on the north side of Washington in the last block or two butting up against the beach. Unless you have the extreme long odds and good luck to get one of the few angled metered parking slots, you have to pay at least $5 to enter, search for a spot, and walk back from the parking area there at the foot of Washington butting up against the beach. And no, Hinano doesn't validate parking.

                1. re: nosh

                  You have to walk a few blocks, but except on really busy weekend days, I've almost always been able to find street parking on Washington a little east of that last block.

                  1. re: mollyomormon

                    Mollyo, what about a Kobe burger at The Arsenal on Pico? We have gone a couple of times now on your recommendation, (sorry for not posting but somehow I just failed to get my act together afterwards) and have come away happy.

                    1. re: Servorg

                      Oh, I'm glad you liked it! It's just that rec seemed counter to OP's request for "No frills, no gimmicks, no kobe!" Not that it's a super fancy burger, but if OP's looking more for In n' Out style burgers but with beers, I think Hinano's a good bet. But he/she should probably try both!

                      1. re: mollyomormon

                        Live right by Arsenal now. Have had their sliders. Will opt for the Kobe burger next time. Not the burger and beer scene but I am after good food when all is said and done and I can walk there. Usually just passing through for a drink or 8 though. He btw

              2. re: mollyomormon

                Great rec molly! I think the OP would love Hinano.

              3. If the burger is more important than the beer try Philly West, on the east side of Westwood Blvd. just south of Santa Monica Blvd. A divy dark bar with a few beers on tap and several more bottled, but surprisingly good food. Very good cheesesteak, which was my favorite until I discovered the char-grilled oblong burger, served on the cheesesteak roll with grilled onions. Only about $6 for a half-pound of juicy drippy messy goodness. There is free parking in the shared lot in the rear, a definite plus in Westwood.

                1. I haven't been, but I hear Tompkins Square at Lincoln and Manchester has a wonderful burger.

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                  1. re: Juji

                    My vote goes to the S.F. Saloon on Pico near Gateway and Barrington. Do a Chowhound search on them. And yes, I've been to PJ Clarke's - you can't duplicate the atmosphere here in sunny California but the S.F. Saloon is a sort of laid-back equivalent. And you don't have far to drive!

                    And there's also The Shack - with two locations - one in Santa Monica, the other in Playa Del Rey. Also recommended.

                  2. I have the answer for you. The Richmond Bar and Grill in El Segundo. You have to check this place out. Great Burgers, Great Beer, no fuss.. Home made chips too.. BTW I use to go to PJ's when I lived in NYC loved it..

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                    Richmond Bar & Grill
                    145 Richmond St, El Segundo, CA 90245