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May 18, 2008 06:59 PM

Flame on the Viking vs Wolf vs DCS

Does the flame on any of these ranges "not" contact the bottom of small pots and pans when on high heat settings?? I've heard that the flame on the Viking comes straight up when on high, but the Wolf comes out more to the side, not sure what the DCS does. Are these facts?

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  1. I have the viking 48 inch dual fuel. I'm not sure what exactly you mean, but I have never had any troubles cooking with small pots and pans on my viking. If it's a really small sauce pan, then you don't really need the burner turned up to the highest level. If I'm missunderstanding your question, let me know and I'll check it out for you.

    1. our viking range RAGES even on lowest settings. to make rice in a small pan, we always have to double up on the grates so that the low and simmer settings are not roaring. very powerful, awesome ranges. the ovens are super powerful too- we have to be very careful how the racks are set or bread always burns... enjoy fb

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      1. re: frankbooth

        I have a 36" Viking rangetop which should be very similar to your stove on the range. Unlike some of the other ranges and rangetops which have dual rings of fire or star designs the Viking has one large ring which is about 3" in diam. As far as low setting the Viking can get very low. Not sure about the BTUs at this setting but you have to just turn it down to the lowest possible point or anywhere in between.

        1. re: frankbooth

          our viking range RAGES even on lowest settings
          That is not normal on a Viking and you may want to consider having a gas company check the pressure in your regulator or inspect your system. The primary feature of a Viking range is that it has a high BTU on every burner plus the a very low simmer. You should be able to lay a piece of paper over the burner on the lowest setting for a few minutes with out the paper igniting.
          The flames should not come up the sides on any pot. If they do you are wasting gas and possibly damaging your cook ware. Just adjust the heat setting. I use very small sauce pots on my Viking and can adjust the flame to not come up the sides. If you have to stack grates then I would again suggest having yor range inspected.
          To the OP;
          On the Viking the flames will touch any pot on the high setting or you can adjust the flame down as needed.

        2. I have a 48" Wolf and a small pan set on high has the flames blazing out of the sides and I have to be very careful that I don't catch myself on fires..funny, I was just thinking about this and how to correct the problem.

          1. I have a Viking range. I also have two sets of Calphalon pans, one set with rounded bottoms and one set with flat bottoms. The flames wrapping up and around doesn't seem to be much of a problem with the flat bottom pans, but I gotta say on the round bottom pans you need to watch because the flame will lap up the sides a little. I tend to only use the round bottoms when I am making small quantities of something and using the lowest setting.

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            1. re: SpareRib

              This is great to know and the replies from Beach Chick and SpareRib are exactly what I was talking about. Flame wrapping around the sides of the pots to heat the outer sides and not the heat distributing bottom. But maybe what Baloo mentioned above is the way to avoid the flame riding up on the sides. Any input from the other brands??

              1. re: wickedjazzed

                One other thing to bear in mind when talking about wrap around. I got the worst burn of my life this past Christmas. I have a 6-top Viking and was cooking on one of my big burners. I don't know if this is common, but I keep several of my most frequently used Calphalon pots on the stove top even when I am not using them (I think they look attractive, but whatever). Anyhoo, I was pulling my lamb out of the oven and went to make room for the roasting pan on top of my stove, and picked up a "cold" pot from the burner adjacent to the one I was using. My hand literally stuck to the handle and took off most of the skin when I pulled my hand away! This my fellow heat-seeking friends, is some serious wrap around!

                1. re: SpareRib

                  On any brand stove with a high output burner if you crank the flame to full throttle and use a pot smaller than the diameter of the flame you will get flame wrap around. This is why burners have infinity adjutment. You don't actually just have to use them on High-Medium-Low. Turn down the flame and clean the clutter off the stove.
                  Flame wrap around is normal on a high BTU stove. If the flame wasn't large then you would not have the high BTU.
                  This info is in your owners manual.

            2. There are two kinds of gas burners used on cooktops. Open and closed.

              Open burners have a hole in the middle than can supply air, and usually have gas flames on both the inside and outside of the burner.

              Closed burners will only have flames on the outside edge, and because of that at higher heat settings generally spread their flames out in a larger diameter circle than open burners.

              To answer your question a little better:
              Flames from open burners generally go 'up', flames from closed burners generally go more 'sideways'. Since most makers offer both open and closed burner models, the answer is "it depends".

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              1. re: ThreeGigs

                Thank you. I thought the closed burners were just becoming more popular based on ease of clean up not flame direction. Since this was one of our primary concerns I will have to look at the open burners more closely.

                1. re: wickedjazzed

                  I thought the closed burners were just becoming more popular based on ease of clean up not flame direction.
                  And you were correct, at least with Viking. The sealed burners are sealed on the bottom so spills do not go through. The viking "open" burner does not have flame on the inside or the top. Would it help to have a photo?

                  1. re: wickedjazzed

                    Here are a couple of shots of the Viking open burner on low. It will not make any difference weather you use rounded or flat bottom pots on the low setting as the flame is no where near the pot. As you can see the flame does not even go over the burner cap.
                    I think a few posters are confusing heat deflection with flame wrap around.