519895 Fri May 16 15:00:38 -0700 2008 31 35 Beer 0 3694794 Was given a rec. for Dale's Pale Ale in the can for a fishing trip to the Outer Banks........aside from the cost of conversion to canning, and perception.........would the taste of the beer be changed by canning? Is a metalic taste imparted? Feed back on Dales, and any other Micro's in the can.... Thanks Fri May 16 15:00:39 -0700 2008 180133 Saddleoflamb 1 3694888 Dale's is great. Oskar Blues makes a few different canned beers, and they're all excellent. Cans actually are better than bottles, because they are completely opaque. Most places don't can simply because the equipment is too expensive. Fri May 16 15:37:53 -0700 2008 3694794 10809 Josh 2 3694966 Canning equipment for small breweries is very cheap compared to a bottler. Fri May 16 16:08:30 -0700 2008 3694888 10998 Jim Dorsch 3 3695010 Yeah- I think the issue is the cans themselves. It requires a huge minimum commitment as to the number of cans that are made up at one time. I think that Gordon is, or started as, a blank can that had a label applied, which is one clever way of dealing with the printing issue. I still gotta get me some of that... Fri May 16 16:22:59 -0700 2008 3694966 12713 TongoRad 4 3695545 Right, there must be a minimum order of can stock. I recall the Gordon situation you mention. OTOH, there are also minimums on bottles, six-pack carriers, labels ... (granted, a brewery typically already has a bottle filler, and there's some risk in introducing a can) Fri May 16 19:55:39 -0700 2008 3695010 10998 Jim Dorsch 2 3697178 Just tried the Dale's Pale Ale and have not had an experience like that in quite awhile......tasting something of that quality/hoppiness out of a can was positively weird.........looking forward to trying other craft/micro's that come in cans...... Sat May 17 17:14:13 -0700 2008 3694888 180133 Saddleoflamb 3 3698213 I had the exact same reaction. In San Francisco, 21st Amendment cans their beer. Unfortunately last time I was up there they were out of stock. Sun May 18 09:02:43 -0700 2008 3697178 10809 Josh 3 3719479 Yeah, I found it weird to get used to drinking such flavorful stuff (as DPA, Old Chub, or Gordon) from a can! It caused real cognitive dissonance in me. Sun May 25 11:57:45 -0700 2008 3697178 90936 Kenji 1 3694960 I've been drinking the canned beer from Maui Brewing and it is great, too. No metallic tastes I can discern. Fri May 16 16:07:25 -0700 2008 3694794 10395 brentk 2 3695149 I think the metallic taste issue is a thing of the past. According to "Oskar Blues owner Dale Katechis says that's a myth. 'The modern-day aluminum can and its lid are lined with a water-based coating that prevents beer and metal from ever touching,' his Web site says." For more info read this Washington Post article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/22/AR2007052200349.html Had some Surly Furious last week, tasted great coming out of the can Fri May 16 17:05:19 -0700 2008 3694960 27514 shellshock24 3 3695219 Don't think we can get Surly Furious ot here in North Carolina......100 IBU's....wow! Fri May 16 17:30:36 -0700 2008 3695149 180133 Saddleoflamb 4 3695345 Don't feel bad. You can't get Furious outside of the greater Minneapolis area. At least I don't think. It's fantastic. I hope they never compromise quality for quantity. I'll gladly drive up there to get it. Last time I was in Mn. I picked up a canned beer called, I think, Sea Hag. Don't remember where it was from, but a damn fine beer from a can. Fri May 16 18:23:12 -0700 2008 3695219 10737 Bobfrmia 5 3695549 Lucky me ... there were a few cans of Surly beer floating around the craft brewers conference in San Diego in April. IIRC Sea Hag is an IPA from New England Brg co. Fri May 16 19:57:08 -0700 2008 3695345 10998 Jim Dorsch 6 3697394 No Surly in SF as well but got it through a beer trade. Great stuff Sat May 17 19:07:01 -0700 2008 3695549 27514 shellshock24 2 3709113 I had a "wow" experience with a can of Maui IPA while in Kauai last year. Wed May 21 13:04:47 -0700 2008 3694960 163246 tofuburrito 1 3695288 Pilsners are notorious for getting skunked. And it is generally believed that this is a function of exposure to light. Having consumed my fair share of Pils in both bottles and cans I have NEVER tasted a skunked Pils from a can. Some of my favorites available in cans includes Bitburger, Sly Fox's Pikeland Pils (German) and Pilsner Urquell. Fri May 16 18:02:16 -0700 2008 3694794 26180 Chinon00 2 3695291 Haven't seen the Urquell in cans in in the Triangle, NC will inquire with distr. Fri May 16 18:04:25 -0700 2008 3695288 180133 Saddleoflamb 3 3695332 The Sly Fox Pils is a rock solid choice- I prefer it to the Prima Pils, though they are similar. I'll also take their Phoenix Pale Ale over Dale's, not because I think it's a better beer but because I have been getting some old, mishandled Dale's as of late (just had some last week, as a matter of fact- not quite butter bombs, but the diacetyl was noticable and the hops were subdued.) You mention that the beer is for a fishing trip. I assume that you will be consuming the beer directly from the can? Just keep in mind that there may indeed be some metallic taste issues simply by way of putting your mouth directly onto the opening of the can. If you are using cups then you have nothing to fear- as mentioned earlier the beer itself will not be affected. Fri May 16 18:20:12 -0700 2008 3695291 12713 TongoRad 4 3695351 Wish I could get/try these here in NC.....might have to make a roed trip to Pa. Fri May 16 18:25:33 -0700 2008 3695332 180133 Saddleoflamb 5 3695360 So close yet so far ;) Oh well, I wasn't sure about how far away they were distributed. By all means go with the Dale's then- I'm pretty sure there is a date stamped on the twelver box; unfortunately for me my local places break those up into sixers with the plastic holders and you can't get the age info anymore. Fri May 16 18:31:11 -0700 2008 3695351 12713 TongoRad 6 3695367 Pa/NJ/ NY for Sly Fox....have only seen the six packs of Dales.....never in my right mind did a I think this would be a quality brew....thought it was a novelty....looked at the web sight.......Sierra Nevada 37 IBU's, Dales Pale Ale 65 IBU's.....will have to head to Whole Paycheck and give it a test drive..... Fri May 16 18:36:11 -0700 2008 3695360 180133 Saddleoflamb 4 3812449 I just had Sly Fox Pikeland Pils for the first time last weekend--fantastic beer. I love the cans--light, portable, quick chilling...I wish we could get it in NY. Wed Jun 25 10:49:41 -0700 2008 3695332 16728 kenito799 2 3703460 It's the light reacting with some component of the hops. Green or clear bottles provide next to no protection from the light, while amber bottles provide much better protection. Cans obviously provide much more. I usually avoid Pilsner Urquell or Heineken unless they're on tap because of those stinking green bottles. Miller apparently treats its hops somehow so that its beer in clear bottles does not skunk. Mon May 19 19:45:40 -0700 2008 3695288 186135 befuggled 3 3705288 Amber bottles are only marginally better than green. Where green and clear have zero, amber has a little more than zero. Beer in amber bottles still skunks very easily. Red glass offers good protection, but is prohibitively expensive. Tue May 20 10:58:15 -0700 2008 3703460 10809 Josh 1 3713699 I just recently had a Ten Fidy, in a can. Don't remeber who makes it, but WOW, what a strong beer, It is a porter I believe, real thick, real dark. It is definately not a session beer, but great nontheless Thu May 22 20:16:56 -0700 2008 3694794 182441 DapperDave 2 3713712 imperial stout http://www.oskarblues.com/brew/ Thu May 22 20:26:54 -0700 2008 3713699 10998 Jim Dorsch 3 3719218 Yup, thats the stuff, anyone else try this?? Sun May 25 09:21:22 -0700 2008 3713712 182441 DapperDave 1 3719475 I have had canned beers where the metal affected the taste of the beer -- but this was *not* the case with the Dale's Pale or the other beautiful Oskar blues brews. Sun May 25 11:55:18 -0700 2008 3694794 90936 Kenji 2 3749340 I just had some Maui Coconut Porter out of a can, tasted great. I'm starting to like this can trend w/ the micros Wed Jun 04 11:43:05 -0700 2008 3719475 27514 shellshock24 3 3752816 I haven't tried -- or even seen -- that brew, but yeah, canned micros are a great thing, and I hope the trend continues. Thu Jun 05 11:12:30 -0700 2008 3749340 90936 Kenji 4 3755050 Canned, 21A IPA, Watermelon Wheat, New Belgium Fat Tire, and the Oscar Blues, Dales Pale ale, are all really nice to see in can. And, damn handy when your out and about! Bonus is that they taste great too! Fri Jun 06 02:37:56 -0700 2008 3752816 198375 Phil_L 3 3813074 Just saw the Maui Coconut Porter for the first time (outside of Hawaii) at my local BevMo and picked some up. I agree, it's excellent and I enjoy the convenience of the can. Wed Jun 25 13:11:15 -0700 2008 3749340 163246 tofuburrito 1 3768670 A local microbrewery, Kettle House, began canning their beer recently to rave reviews. They have not been able to keep up with demand and so are planning to open a second location to focus on the canning, but with a small taproom too, of course. And only a few blocks from my house, hee hee hee! The beer tastes really good; I have been told that the cans have some kind of liner that protects the flavor? It is a bit more expensive to buy their cans, though not THAT expensive compared to beer prices outside MT (6.99 for a 4-pack of 16-oz cans of their Double Haul, an IPA). In any case, a GOOD beer in a can is such a treat when in situations where you really don't want to bring glass (river trips, fishing, sneaking into the movies, etc.:-) Tue Jun 10 19:01:35 -0700 2008 3694794 189827 missoulagrace