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Place with the BEST view?

retloctt May 15, 2008 05:20 AM

food does not need to be phenomenal, but i won t eat crap to get a good view. search says top of the mark, nowhere else? TIA

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    OldTimer May 16, 2008 04:25 PM

    It may be just nostalgia, but I've always enjoyed the view across Tomales Bay from Tony's, and the food ain't bad. Haven't been to Nick's Cove since the new place opened, but the view from the old was great.

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      wally May 16, 2008 03:36 PM

      I really like the view from the Ferry Building on the Bay side of the Slanted Door. I have never eaten there, but I have never heard the food described as crap. It is not a highrise view. What kind of view do you want?

      1. Chuckles the Clone May 15, 2008 09:22 PM

        In the east, the Paragon bar and cafe in the Claremont Hotel. Get a seat on the deck
        for sunset. On weekends it turns into a bit of an odd club scene at 8 (and they start
        charging a $10 cover) so make sure you've got a reservation and get there earlier.

        Bad live "jazz" music (which you don't have to deal with if you're outside). Tasty
        if cliche-trendy food. Somewhat expensive. Beautiful sunset over the city.
        Competent and efficient bar staff. After the third drink or so it can be a very
        pleasant evening.

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        1. re: Chuckles the Clone
          bbulkow May 16, 2008 12:46 AM

          East bay, you'd have to add Skates. They're more set up for view than Hs Lordships, and just a different view from the Claremont, no claim better or worse. Too bad about the jazz, given berkeley/oakland has such good native jazz.

          View at the beach chalet is dull. Just water; the bay area has better. Far better. And no panoramic windows.

          Greens is excellent view-age, and the food's not bad.

          What about all the places on the embarcadero? Like Butterfly, Pier 23, ferry building, etc?

          One of the fisherman's wharf places is two-story with good bar/view seats, anyone know which I mean?

          Or take the ferry to Tiburon and eat at Guymas or Sam's.

          If you're including *picknick tables* you might include *benches* then you'd have to get very specific, as I'm a big fan of Baker Beach & the headlands at the high point overlooking the bridge & the headlands after the rock tunnel at the swinging bridge near the lighthouse & near the top of Angel island & the south end of GGBR, either with the tourists or on the trail down to Baker & Laurence hall of science & crissy field & the water harmonica & maybe the west side of TI & maybe also twin peaks & that one incredible bench on Pt Reyes before you get to the lighthouse.... It is 100% true that a sack of Lucca's (eg, an italian with oil & vinegar on sour roll, or, bless my soul, Hazel's kitchen ANYTHING) and your favorite bench and a warm day [the hard part but we had one today] will beat anything anywhere anytime

          Also remember the awful floating restaurants --- cf Hornblower's dinner cruises.

          1. re: bbulkow
            Robert Lauriston May 16, 2008 09:25 AM

            The original post says "won't eat crap to get a good view," so nix on Skates and Guaymas.

            Hong Kong East Ocean in Emeryville has almost the same view as Skates.

            1. re: Robert Lauriston
              bbulkow May 17, 2008 12:15 AM

              "crap" is a low bar, and the OP is not a regular poster.... hard to calibrate ... but, point taken, both are places I have eaten at the past, and will never eat at again.

              When I'm near the berkeley marina I sometimes get a sandwich from the Seabreeze Deli (poor food but charming and the price is right) and sit on one of the garbage dump hills on the park on the north end. There's better takeout options (hey! Viks!), but ... dunno, Seabreeze ends up winning.

              1. re: Robert Lauriston
                Chuckles the Clone May 17, 2008 07:18 AM

                Skates got some attention here last year:
                While nothing in that thread compelled me to go, it didn't seem
                as bad as having advertisements on the sides of buses would
                have led me to think.

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            weem May 15, 2008 07:08 PM

            Hi. Twenty years ago I went to the revolving restaurant atop the Hyatt at Embarcadero Center 5. I was just about to recommend it for the view alone (since it has been 20 years, I can't well comment on the food and service). But I can't find a reference to it anywhere, not even on the Hyatt's website. There are pictures of it, but no description in either the food or the conference facilities sections of their website. Just a few weeks ago I passed through the hotel and saw the elevators going up to it. Is it closed to the public now? Or am I completely missing something obvious? Not a big deal, just wondered if anybody had an explanation. Thanks.

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            1. re: weem
              grishnackh May 15, 2008 07:39 PM

              The restaurant you are thinking of was Equinox and it closed to the public in May of last year. It is apparently still available for special events.

              1. re: grishnackh
                weem May 15, 2008 08:07 PM

                Ah, okay. Thanks for the update. Guess it's the same thing that happened to the Crown Room atop the Fairmont, unless I'm mistaken. I was first taken to the Crown Room by an older co-worker determined to show me the sights since I was new in town. I would always take visiting friends and relatives there, too, though never ate there. That co-worker also took me to the Starlight Room atop the Sir Francis Drake, which may merit a mention in this thread. (It was closed the afternoon we went, but she broke in to show me the view.) But wait, THAT was the Equinox? What was the name of the disco atop the Westin St. Francis? The one you took the outdoor elevators to? I thought that was called the Equinox. But again, it's been twenty years on that one, too. (Haven't tried to go back since a friend was turned away for wearing tennis shoes.) I'm so confused. LOL It had an awesome view, in any case.

                1. re: weem
                  BN1 May 15, 2008 10:36 PM

                  Ah! Sweet memories of 20 years ago. The disco on top of the St. Francis was (is?) call Oz. When it first opened before it went private, they had a happy hour where I wiled away a couple of late afternoons. On the first visit, they had a long table of cheeses, another of fruit and another I can’t recall. Upon the next visit, there was fruit, maybe salad and bread on one table, while on another there were heartier dishes including a standing rib cow with an attendant to slice it to order. All this food was free, as was the coffee before you had to leave when the disco opened at 8:00 or 9:00 p.m. It was incredible to sit up there to watch the sunset with a view of both bridges and the traffic jam on the freeway. Evidently, the restaurant next door to Oz is closed also.

                  I have eaten at Cityscape atop the Hilton SF on O’Farrell St. It appears to be only open for breakfast now. Leathernecks atop the Marines Memorial Hotel is open to the public and has a good view of the Union Square area and the Bay Bridge. It’s reported to have good steaks and I know the breakfast is good.

              2. re: weem
                Robert Lauriston May 15, 2008 08:11 PM

                Equinox was the revolving restaurant on top of the Embarcadero Hyatt. The view from there was mostly up at surrounding highrises. There's a lovely view of the Ferry Building and bay next door at Sens.

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                tranewreck May 15, 2008 04:22 PM

                Nothing in San Francisco beats the VA cafeteria (at Lands End) for best view/worst food combo. Bring you own food (you can buy cold bottled and fountain drinks) and eat at the picnic tables outside. Park in the lot below the Palace of Legion of Honor and enjoy the gardened walk up the Battle of the Bulge trail which will drop you off at the picnic tables and cafeteria.

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                1. re: tranewreck
                  rworange May 15, 2008 04:53 PM

                  Over 60 places with a view in SF.

                  La Terasse isn't too bad.

                  1. re: tranewreck
                    Chuckles the Clone May 15, 2008 05:14 PM

                    >>best view/worst food combo.

                    Is the Burger King in the Presidio still there (I think I heard it closed a few years back)? If it is, the perfect view of the Golden Gate plus the well known level of
                    gastronomy might give the VA a run for its money.

                    1. re: Chuckles the Clone
                      rworange May 15, 2008 05:47 PM

                      Burger King is gone, and some sort of private organization is in that space. Almost next door is La Terasse. The view isn't as good as the old BK spot, but still not bad. There are those who might consider that La Terasse could give the VA a run for its money, but I was happy with my pizza and draft beer there.

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                    Janet May 15, 2008 09:26 AM

                    Cliff house, Cityscape, Carnelian room, Jordan's at the Claremont, picnic at Treasure Island

                    Cityscape Bar & Restaurant
                    333 Ofarrell St, San Francisco, CA 94102

                    Meritage at the Claremont
                    41 Tunnel Road, Berkeley, CA 94705

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                    1. re: Janet
                      walker May 15, 2008 10:03 AM

                      I second Carnelian Room at B of A bldg 555 California St. No casual dress. If you don't want to spring for dinner, you can just have a drink. Also, Beach Chalet.

                      1. re: walker
                        Robert Lauriston May 15, 2008 10:19 AM

                        The food at the Beach Chalet used to be crap. Has it improved?

                        1. re: Robert Lauriston
                          walker May 15, 2008 02:53 PM

                          I've only been once. I tried my friend's fish & chips even tho I thought I did not care for Mahi Mahi. It was fine. I just prefer cod, haddock or halibut in fish & chips. I did not like my spareribs, they were tough and they graciously took them back. Maybe I would have liked the ravioli dish. The view is great (in daylight, of course) and easy parking. I'd go again and just be careful what I ordered. People visiting here really crave a restaurant with a view. The Bistro at the Cliff House has good views, reasonable prices and food is good, sole is fresh. (rice that came with it was salty and gummy and steamed fresh veggies were boring, not much flavor.)

                          1. re: Robert Lauriston
                            Pandora May 16, 2008 03:18 PM

                            I go there and the park chalet pretty often. I definitely don't think it's crap, although without the view, it's not a destination. I'd stick with the simpler foods - I like the ribs and the fish & chips fine; burger is also decent. That said, I tend to go to park chalet more often - they've really changed up their menu and are doing many more small plates. The truffled mac & cheese is good.

                            The view at the beach chalet is all water. When the weather is good, it is enjoyable to watch the parasurfers with their colorful sails. And you also get the sunset.

                            1. re: Pandora
                              Robert Lauriston May 16, 2008 03:46 PM

                              The Park Chalet has decent food, but the view is of the back of the Beach Chalet.

                          2. re: walker
                            Chuckles the Clone May 15, 2008 02:30 PM

                            I've gone into the Carnelian Room twice. First time I was wearing the wrong shoes or something, got a ton of overt bad attitude from the guy at the door, and the bartender pretended we didn't exist. Second time was after a wedding and there was absolutely no question whether we were in the proper rich person costume: we were. Again, it was as if we'd accidently stepped into "let's pretend to be snobbish prigs" day at a bad acting school somewhere. Again, could not get a drink.

                            Maybe, just maybe, you've got the particular look they accept up there and maybe you'll find some way to enjoy it. But if you're like everyone else, stay the fark away.

                        2. Robert Lauriston May 15, 2008 09:23 AM

                          Forgot the link:

                          Blooms Saloon
                          1318 18th St, San Francisco, CA

                          1. Robert Lauriston May 15, 2008 09:23 AM

                            The back table at Bloom's on 18th St.

                            If you're feeling energetic, on your way there you can walk up the crookedest street in San Francisco (Vermont between 22nd and 20th).

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                            1. re: Robert Lauriston
                              Chuckles the Clone May 15, 2008 09:31 AM

                              Does Blooms have food now? Beyond the Sunday afternoon crokpot of hot dogs, I mean?

                              1. re: Chuckles the Clone
                                bbulkow May 16, 2008 12:25 AM

                                There are about 10 good eat spots within 2 blocks, though. The back table at Bloom's is certainly an insider's secret.

                              2. re: Robert Lauriston
                                Euonymous May 16, 2008 01:29 PM

                                Is the food at Blooms any better than crap?

                                1. re: Euonymous
                                  Robert Lauriston May 16, 2008 03:45 PM

                                  The food at Bloom's is black and comes in a pint glass.

                                  1. re: Robert Lauriston
                                    Euonymous May 16, 2008 04:15 PM

                                    Aah! Bread in a glass.

                                2. re: Robert Lauriston
                                  SteveG May 19, 2008 11:54 AM

                                  When's the last time you were at Bloom's Saloon? A big plum tree has grown up and blocks the left half of the view, the Stella beer on tap was way over the hill, and we felt distinctly unwelcome so we moved on after one round. The Anchor Steam was fresh enough, but not great; you'd think being just 2 blocks from the brewery they'd do a top notch job with Anchor.

                                  We ended up at the Ramp, a bar/restaurant down near the dry docks and a small sailboat marina in dogpatch with a table in the sun with a view of the bay. Much better than the pinesol-laden air and funky beer of Bloom's.

                                  The Ramp
                                  855 Terry Francois St, off of 3rd in the Dogpatch south of AT&T park

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