516999 Wed May 07 23:44:21 -0700 2008 18 42 U.K./Ireland 0 3667340 Please can anyone suggest a good source of sauce? I love Kikkoman soy, but I find their teriyaki way too salty and in fact their sweet soy is closer to what I'm looking for. Waitrose own label teriyaki is slightly thick and quite good but still nowhere near the "Zen" take-away near my office. Any ideas please? Wed May 07 23:44:23 -0700 2008 156990 Robin Joy 1 3667733 Robin I quite like the Kikkoman terikayi (using it to marinate tuna steak). But for something sweeter and gloopier what about a ketjap manis (the Indonesian sweet soy). I have a bottle from one of the shops in Manchester's Chinatown under the Conimex label. John Thu May 08 06:31:25 -0700 2008 3667340 154102 Harters 1 3674548 Robin Could I recommend making it? It's DELICIOUS, and quick to make. I rarely cook, but Kimiko Barber taught me how to make teriyaki sauce, and I've never had to buy it since. You can make a large enough batch to refrigerate for a few weeks too. I can't recommend it highly enough! It goes with everything...If you're interested, the recipe is on my blog (post: how to make teriyaki salmon). It's a thousand times better than commercially bought versions... Helen Yuet Ling Pang http://worldfoodieguide.wordpress.com Sat May 10 09:44:31 -0700 2008 3667340 148538 foodie guide 2 3674629 Easy peasy recipe, Helen. I've blagged it for future use. Many thanks. Do you think it would work reasonably well using Shaoxing rice wine (which is what I usually have in) in place of sake. I appreciate the lack of authenticity. John Sat May 10 10:28:22 -0700 2008 3674548 154102 Harters 3 3676113 Hi John I haven't used Shaoxing cooking wine for ages, but can vaguely remember it being stronger in taste than sake, which will probably affect the end result. The trick about using sake is to buy a drinking sake rather than a cooking one - it doesn't have to be expensive! - and so you can cook and drink at the same time...Let me know how it turns out! Sun May 11 02:48:33 -0700 2008 3674629 148538 foodie guide 4 3676114 All I have to do now is source sake in my part of the world. If any of my fellow north westerners are reading.....any ideas? J Sun May 11 02:54:08 -0700 2008 3676113 154102 Harters 5 3676221 Where are you based? There are online shops where you can buy sake. Just checked www.japancentre.com for you, and they offer 29 varieties! Sun May 11 05:58:09 -0700 2008 3676114 148538 foodie guide 6 3676300 North Cheshire, fg. Sun May 11 06:59:45 -0700 2008 3676221 154102 Harters 5 3676254 Would they not sell it in that big Asian supermarket on (racks brains) Princess Way? Sun May 11 06:24:04 -0700 2008 3676114 110146 greedygirl 6 3676312 Possibly Princess Parkway, but I can't think of an Asian supermarket there. That said, your idea prompted me to have a look at the Wing Yip website and they do stock it. They have a store on Oldham Road - I feel an excuse for lunch at Glamourous coming on again. J Sun May 11 07:03:35 -0700 2008 3676254 154102 Harters 7 3676700 What about that Japanese place in Manchester on Whitworth St? New Samsi?? Sun May 11 10:40:33 -0700 2008 3676312 128875 portseven 8 3678166 I'd wrongly assumed the Samsi was just a restaurant but I'm travelling in on the train later in the week and ,as its just round the corner from Piccadilly, I'll pop in Ta for the heads-up. Mon May 12 01:14:46 -0700 2008 3676700 154102 Harters 7 3678214 I've consulted with him indoors, and it's WH Lung on Upper Brook Street. Mon May 12 03:25:36 -0700 2008 3676312 110146 greedygirl 8 3678240 I've actually never been in there - even though that's the route I'd drive in to the centre. Restaurant above it (Taipan) is supposed to be better than "fair" Mon May 12 04:04:03 -0700 2008 3678214 154102 Harters 9 3678317 I persuaded Mr GG to let me go there once - it's great and, as you say, on the way into town. Mr GG says the restaurant is good, but then he's not as discerning as me!! Mon May 12 05:37:39 -0700 2008 3678240 110146 greedygirl 5 3677017 http://www.mountfuji.co.uk/acatalog/Japanese_Sake.html John, you can order some decent sakes via this online Japanese store. If you're a sake virgin, I would recommend the unpasteurised sake from the small bottles selection, "nama" sakes have a more obvious and accessible flavour profile for first timers. All that said, IIRC you are on the wagon these days so you may be using the sake purely for cooking purposes. Sun May 11 13:41:36 -0700 2008 3676114 28263 oonth 6 3677270 " IIRC you are on the wagon these days" Yes, regretably. 99 months and 11 days - not that I'm still counting of course :-0 Sun May 11 15:35:29 -0700 2008 3677017 154102 Harters 1 3678111 Thanks for all the thoughts. I know I should really make it myself, but we only cook Teriyaki about once a month and to reduce clutter etc. I was just looking for an acceptable ready-made bottle. Just bought a Kikkoman version with honey & garlic added. Not tried it yet and unsure how the garlic will sit with salmon? PS. My local take-away is actually called "Yen", on King William St. London EC4, and I highly recommend it to any Hounds passing at lunchtime. Sun May 11 23:28:14 -0700 2008 3667340 156990 Robin Joy 2 3678196 If you haven't tried the Blue Dragon teriyaki sauce, I'd recommend it. It's not perfect, but it's better than most I've tried and not super-sweet. It comes in a sachet, not a bottle. We also buy random Japanese brands at Oriental City (Colindale) that are usually successful, despite us being unable to read any of the packaging. If you have any specialist Asian / Oriental shops nearby, it might be worth asking or browsing. Mon May 12 02:41:38 -0700 2008 3678111 151962 DollyDagger