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Im vising NY from CA.

Any fantastic American New Style places that serve Asian (new) food. You know, similar to american new but ones that use asian spices, asian vegetables, kobe beef, ponzu, yuzu, vietnamese spieces, etc.

There are a lot of these places in SF that I have tried, but I have never been blown away (slanted door is decent though).

Something like momofuku ko maybe?!

Also, I would love to eat modern Indian food. The types of places you find in London or like Vij's in Vancouver.

Any ideas? Devi maybe?

Alot of modern indian really sucks, but Vij's is fantastic.

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  1. Look into Maze by Gordon Ramsay in the London Hotel (55th st. and 6th ave.) for Asian-influenced new American / European and Tabla on Madison Square Park for new Indian.

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    1. re: cimui

      Hi cimui,

      I think Maze is simply contemporary French and not so much influenced by Asian style. There may be a few ingredients here or there, but the impact was not significant enough.

      1. re: kobetobiko

        Thanks for the correction, kobetobiko. The fish dish I tried on my visit there had wasabi and edamame in it, and bok choy pops up on the menu in other places -- so it's left me thinking of Maze as "Asian influenced." I think you're right that OP sounds like he / she wants something more Asian and less Asian influenced.

    2. I'm hardly an expert on haute indian cuisine in NYC, but I've yet to find a restaurant serving nouveau cuisine in NYC that I have enjoyed eating at as much as I did in the past at Zaika in London (although I haven't been to Zaika in several years).

      Tabla is popular among the chowhound crowd, but I think only a handful of the dishes currently being offered there show obvious indian influences. Take a look at their menus to see whether they might work for you.
      http://www.tablany.com/

      Devi is another popular choice among many hounds. I suspect the types of dishes they offer will fit better with what you are looking for (eg lamb-stuffed tandoori chicken, Goan shrimp balchao bruschetta). I was very disappointed with a meal I had there last winter, so can't personally recommend them (venison drowned in cumin, a flavorless biryani, staff a bit too eager to push the most expensive wines, etc). But have a look at their menus, read what others have to say about it, and judge for yourself.
      http://www.devinyc.com/menus.html

      I am actually looking forward to trying Graffiti, the brainchild of chef Jehangir Mehta. To quote the website: "serving up eclectic, international small plates that will feature his trademark affinity for bold flavors and spices: chiles, sambhar, turmeric and star anise." The early reviews have been mixed, but a lot of the dishes sound promising.
      http://www.graffitinyc.com/menu.html

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      1. re: racer x

        I agree with racer x - Tabla is barely Indian, and Devi is excellent, although apparently some of the meat dishes can be hit or miss (I've never eaten any of them). There's also Tamarind, which shows more Indian influence than Tabla but is not quite as traditional Indian as Devi.

        I have yet to go to Graffiti (I adore Jehangir Mehta), but I've also heard mixed reviews. The one great thing I've read about it is that the kitchen is very accommodating to dietary requirements - particularly vegetarians (good news for me!)

        1. re: scarlet starlet

          I threw a birthday party at Graffiti. Most people thought the concept didn't work, though a couple people were pleased with their burgers. Overall, though, everyone agreed portions were tiny and was not worth another visit.

      2. Perhaps one of the Jean-Georges properties?

        http://www.jean-georges.com/

        1. For New American with Asian twist, try Jean Georges or its sister restaurant Perry St. The latter has a more obvious Asian impact on the dishes, but I found the flagship Jean George to have better quality of food. You will still see plenty of dishes with Asian accents in the main dining room.

          Another restaurant is Bouley which uses a lot of Asian ingredients as Chef Bouley has travelled and worked extensively in Thailand and Japan. It also has a more causal sister restaurant, Upstairs at Bouley, which not only have new American style food but sushi and some Japanese food.

          Momofuku is more Asian oriented with innovative techniques and ingredients. It isn't new American so to speak. I think it is a new catergory on its own. It is definitely worth a visit. It is close to impossible to get a reservation at Momofuku Ko, but you can always go to Momofuku Ssam or Noodle bar for their food.

          Morimoto is primarily a Japanese restaurant, but its fusion dishes have very strong Western influence. Its omakase is superb at all level, though very expensive.

          1. Devi is great Indian with cosmopolitan influences, but definitely Indian. Also worth trying is Kampuchea for a twist on Cambodian street food.

            Devi report:
            http://petercherches.blogspot.com/200...

            Kampuchea report:
            http://petercherches.blogspot.com/200...

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            1. re: Peter Cherches

              Peter, the Devi review on your blog is nearly a couple of years old. Have you been back since the re-opening and change in management (http://www.chowhound.com/topics/454102)?

              1. re: racer x

                I was back after the review but not since the reopening. However, since the reopening the food is still in the hands of Suvir & Hemant, but the operation is thankfully out of the clutches of the guy from Baluchi's. I did recently see Suvir do a presentation at the Times Travel Show and get a taste of his fabulous Goan shrimp curry:

                http://petercherches.blogspot.com/200...

            2. Think it will be tough to find exactly what you are looking for but you may want to try Kingswood - its a new Australian place, where the food is essential Western with strong Asian influence. Menu is rather limited but virtually every dish is truly excellent, the specials are always quite interesting and they make an outstanding Goan Fish Curry.

              As for modern Indian food, it will be hard to match London but for something different, you may want to consider Chinese Mirch, which is Chinese Indian food - very casual place but the gobi manchurian (cauliflower) is delicious and different. Also consider Amma - they have a very innovative menu although I wouldn't go as far as to call it modern or fusion. Suggest going for the tasting menu - they have a fantastic and affordable wine list that goes very well with the tasting menu.

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              1. re: ywwan

                Thanks for your responses. I set a reservation for Devi, and we are going to try and go to momofuku ko. I am sure I can get a res there, but if not, we will just go to ssam and call it a day.

                There is alot of asian fusion in CA, and most of it is not my favorite. Most of the Jean George and bouley, et al, restaurants resemble wolfgang puck and other restaurants back home, so if I dont get ko, I will just skip asian in NYC

                Thanks for the suggestions.

                1. re: jlrobe

                  I agree that Jean Georges and Bouley and Wolfgang Puck may have a similiar style in their food, but I have to say that I enjoyed the food at JG much more than at Spago (based on the few times that I visited quite awhile back).

                  That said, I am not going to insist that JG or Bouley is a must. Since Momofuku Ko, the reservation is really hard, but I highly encourage you to go to Ssam Bar or Noodle Bar even if you can't get into Ko. In fact, I personally enjoyed my experiences at Ssam Bar than at Ko, though I know others might disagree.

                  1. re: jlrobe

                    Me bad but totally forgot about one place you should definitely check out - promise its not JG Wolfgang Puck wanna-be. Its Japanese Italian - ie what you would find if you went for Italian in Tokyo. Try Basta Pasta for dishes like linguine sea urchin, yam gnocchi etc. The food is excellent and it sounds like what you are looking for. www.bastapastanyc.com

                2. After all this, I'm curious to know if you ever found food of this type that you DO like, or if you just creating a fantasy about something that doesn't exist.

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                  1. re: Xiao Yang

                    "After all this, I'm curious to know if you ever found food of this type that you DO like, or if you just creating a fantasy about something that doesn't exist."

                    I have had some solid "fancy" asian food in CA, but I have also had many average experiences. I wanted to see if Manhattan could offer an even better experience, so in a sense, it was "a fantasy". Manhattan is the gastronomic capitol of the western world after all, so fantasy in CA could be reality in Manhattan. I was hoping to find some suggestions from the board and run with them. That is how I found out about momofuku ko and Devi afterall! I ended up confirming that ko and devi are my best bets, but I might have found other versions of ko and devi that suited my needs a little better.

                    As for fancy asian cooking I do like
                    slanted door was pretty good (although I would expect better in Manhattan)
                    Mako is a french-japanese omakese that is pretty good
                    Bastide is American new and has good asian flavors, but I would like even more asian flavors.

                  2. How about Tamarind on 22nd St.? It's def. modern Indian and the atmospher is great. If you get to sit at the back of the restaurant, you can see the chefs making the food through the glass windown. Vong is in the Jean-Georges group and serves great $20 prix fixe lunch menu. Everything I had there has been great. Chubo in LES is another place with heavy Asian influence if you don't mind going to a smaller "mom and pop" in this case husband-and-wife place.

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                    1. re: usbchinita

                      I got excited when I saw your suggestion of Chubo - something new for me.
                      But when I went to their website, I found this message:

                      February 29, 2008
                      To our customers: The premise has been sold to different ownership.
                      Thank you for your support throughout the years.
                      Best, Claude

                      Are you sure Chubo the restaurant still in business?

                      1. re: racer x

                        It's not: http://eater.com/archives/2008/03/eat.... No great loss, imo.