515425 Sat May 03 03:19:45 -0700 2008 15 41 Cookware 0 3652495 Does anyone know where or how to buy those propane burners that goes from 100-200 BTU's? Kind of like this http://www.indiajoze.com/equipment.html I've been trying to find something like this for such a long time, but to no avail. Outdoorstiryfry.com sells something similar but the rim is a little too big (13 inches wide) and it is kinda expensive. Apparently it goes up to 160k BTU's, but I don't know how accurate his claims are. I bought the cheapest one from that site for 40 bucks, but the propane valve kinda sucks and there aren't many flame holes, so there isn't much heat. When you turn up the heat, the flame has a tendency to go out in some of the holes. Not to mention it rusts very easily. I guess you get what you pay for. The guy at indiajoze.com apparently sells one for 90 dollars but I'm not sure if the site is even active anymore. Plus it seems way too cheap to be true. The wokshop sells one that looks really similar but it claims it only goes up to 32k BTU. I'm not sure if I believe any BTU rating anymore http://www.wokshop.com/HTML/products/steam...tove_32000.html There are also a bunch being sold on ebay starting at dirt cheap prices of 20 bucks not including shipping. The picture looks decent but seriously...20 bucks. The other alternative on there is being sold for about 300 bucks (being shipped from Australia). They also sell professional wok ranges from Hong Kong which go for at least 1000 bucks a piece. Obviously out of the question. It seems like the only place you can get a decent wok burner at a decent price is at major Asian markets but unfortunately I don't live near one (DC). Sat May 03 03:19:46 -0700 2008 180418 takadi 1 3652733 Have you tried Super H out in Fairfax? Alternatively, go down to Best Equipment in the DC Market area near the intersection of Florida and New York. It is a general restaurant supply place but is owned by Asian folks and they might be able to get something for you. Worth a shot. Sat May 03 07:15:49 -0700 2008 3652495 10668 johnb 2 3653132 Super H has nothing, but I'll try out the supply store. Sat May 03 10:25:03 -0700 2008 3652733 180418 takadi 1 3653073 There are some other posts on this very subject, so take a look at those. I'm thinking of picking up a Bayou Classic SP10 High-Pressure Cooker from Amazon for only $30, its a tiny investment, even if it doesn't work perfectly. http://www.chowhound.com/topics/21389 http://www.chowhound.com/topics/288659 Sat May 03 09:57:05 -0700 2008 3652495 177643 AthleticsRock16 1 3653201 I bought one from indiajoze about two years ago. It works but is sensitive to wind. He mounted one of the burner heads in an old beer keg with the top removed and the gas line running in through a hole in the side. Just set the wok on top and go. When he rinses the wok for an outdoor cooking demo he just dumps the rinse water past the burner head into the bottom of the keg. Another person I know set his up inside an old kettle style grill. The burner puts out a LOT of concentrated heat at the bottommost part of the wok so you have to be careful about burning the food. Sat May 03 10:55:51 -0700 2008 3652495 77247 Romanmk 2 3653226 Which one did you buy? The 90 dollar one? How hot does it burn and how well does it work in general? According to him, it burns 100K+ BTU's, but alot of burners being sold that pumps out that much heat costs upwards to 150 or more. Also, is there a link to the demo video you are talking about? A user named infernoo from egullet had bought a wok burner a couple years ago and it's basically the exact thing I've wanted to buy for years, but I haven't been able to find it. His, according to the pictures, is able to make the bottom of the wok glow red. Is his the same one you have? http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=77281&hl= The silver one from indiajoze looks similar but I'm not sure. The website looks really confusing. Speaking of kettle grill, I was actually planning on using an old grill I had and just start up a bunch of charcoal and place the wok directly over the coals. I've heard people get great results Sat May 03 11:07:48 -0700 2008 3653201 180418 takadi 3 3655600 Yes I bought a $90 one and it gets really hot. Compared to standard stovetop use this gets hot enough to burn the food if you don't move really fast. It's a good idea to put the cold oil and the food in at the same time. Being accustomed to a low power burner I charred several rounds of food trying to get it to work. Maybe this results from the heat being too concentrated in the center bottom of the wok. Maybe it's because I'm not a professional wok chef. There is no video, he takes the the keg and burner head setup to cook on location for catering events. I saw it at his house around San Jose when I bought the burner from him. Sun May 04 13:48:23 -0700 2008 3653226 77247 Romanmk 1 3653266 I hauled one back from Bangkok one time. Puts out enough flame that it pushes the Earth a bit out of orbit. I also have a single burner stove that puts out as much heat, is on legs, and is a bit lighter in weight--got it at a sporting goods store in the US. Both make wok use a breeze. I think both are rated at 10,000 btus--well worth the $30 (in Bangkok) and $40 (but years ago from sporting goods store). Sat May 03 11:23:45 -0700 2008 3652495 36661 Sam Fujisaka 1 3655752 Unfortunately, BTU ratings are not particularly helpful when evaluating these things. I'd swear that the ostensible 130k btu burner on my old turkey frier is exactly the same as the 60k burner on my current stove (http://campchef.com/catalog/item/1/11/0/EX170LW/76/Outdoorsman+-+Hig%26%2347%3BLow+Combo+Stove.html) They're both high-pressure jet burners, and both use 15 psi regulators. Regardless of how their capacity is quantified, saying that they both put out enough heat is like saying that a firehose puts out enough water. Enough isn't the problem; the problem is too much. Turned all the way up, we're talking smoke wisps within a second or two and bright red glowing steel at the bottom of the wok in under a minute. Most of the time I use the 30k btu standard (non-jet) burner on the current stove for stir fry. At full blast, it has the ability to cause the oil in the dish to vaporize and ignite when damp ingredients are added. But if I'm going to be adding more than half a pound or so of cold meat to the wok at a time, I'll switch to the bigger burner. Hope that helps... Sun May 04 15:02:37 -0700 2008 3652495 58743 alanbarnes 2 3656821 "They're both high-pressure jet burners, and both use 15 psi regulators." Yea, I think that's what gives them the BTU's in the first place, and I wouldn't doubt if some of these people merely estimated the BTU's based on the PSI regulators. Mon May 05 03:44:00 -0700 2008 3655752 180418 takadi 1 3659407 Try www.outdoorstirfry.com. Mon May 05 16:39:31 -0700 2008 3652495 53369 Father Kitchen 2 3659421 Yes I actually bought one from there, but I find the design and the performance to be subpar. It was cheap though, so I don't really mind. Mon May 05 16:42:33 -0700 2008 3659407 180418 takadi 3 3659427 Sorry, I skimmed your letter and missed that. Mon May 05 16:45:03 -0700 2008 3659421 53369 Father Kitchen 1 3921336 I'd suggest hunting in chinatown in an appliance shop or asking around there. In australia, this company imports them. http://www.auscrown.com/hpcastiron.php HPA100LP is rated at 49MJ/hr, from 100kPa(14psi). I got an HPA100LP for AUD$159. A brewing site had it for AUD$154+shipping. I had no problems seasoning a stainless steel wok with heat and peanut oil. (Interested to know if anyone has done a proper blind taste test of SS vs carbon steel wok food. I'd rather prefer not to eat the rust!) Temperature seems key and was very easy with a hot burner. Got a bit carried away at the end and managed to burn off the seasoning in the centre of the wok (turned to charcoal dust as the steel was going blue). I have seen several models of wok burner of similar "outdoor" high heat design at an asian appliance shop, ranging from AUD99-199. The HPA100LP is similar to the AUD199 model I saw, just with chinese branding. This company makes similar products and claims to be Taiwanese, which should mean higher quality. http://www.allproducts.com/trades/asiabusiness/showroom1.html They have videos of several models on youtube. The HPA100LP seems fairly "cheap" in terms of manufacturing quality - the igniter is a slightly wobbly unattached piece of copper pipe aimed in the general direction of the burner with a piezo lighter. Cooked my first stir fry on it last night - can't see needing more than the "medium" (the control seems to have LOW-MED-HIGH) setting without tons of speedy stir frying practice or a 20inch wok full. On high the blue flames are well beyond the wok support and a definite health hazard. Stir frying is now fun! (Compared to using a scanpan wok on a standard gas stove.) Instruction manual recommends lateral clearance of 1m and overhead clearance of 2.7m. Having seen the huge duckbill burner rings under the commercial wok cookers that look like they have jet engines under them, you would certainly need a commercial watercooled kitchen or a big backyard to go bigger than 49mJ/hr (Approx 46k BTU/hr) BTW, the wok burner mentioned above by takadi http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=77281&hl= looks just like the previous model of mine - same as the picture in my instruction manual. This company has a similar burner mounted in a stand http://www.transplumb.com.au/products/cooktops3.htm I am considering mounting mine in a stainless steel Ikea bench. Fri Aug 01 06:35:15 -0700 2008 3652495 204658 cheongi 2 3922610 The poster from egullet claims his burner to be 120k BTU! Not sure how accurate that is, but for the price he got it at for that much power...what a steal! What was the BTU rating of your previous model and how much did it cost? Australia seems to have all the good stuff, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to spend that much on shipping costs, especially these days with sky high oil prices Fri Aug 01 13:01:57 -0700 2008 3921336 180418 takadi 3 3922979 All this gear comes from China. Contract manufactured for anybody. You should be able to find it in the asian community wherever you are. Otherwise some brewing suppliers. "Previous model of mine" referred to I presume HP100LP. Mine is HP100LPB which is a minor revision - ie different looking from its instruction manual which is for HP100LP. Burner looks identical on photos. Same pressure, same rating. If you compare the photos on the aus(t)crown web site with egullet, you can see the differences - different shaped top plate covering venturi. The (lack of) quality suggests to me these would be bought dirt cheap in china. This site has the lowest price: http://www.gryphonbrewing.com.au/store/product_info.php?products_id=294 Fri Aug 01 14:59:49 -0700 2008 3922610 204658 cheongi