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Excellent Restaurant with Wine Flights (but not a wine bar)

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theyellowvolvo May 1, 2008 11:27 AM

I recently went to B&B in Vegas and loved having an Italian meal with wine flights. I'm looking for a restaurant in LA that does something similar but that is not necessarily a wine bar. In my experience, in restaurants you can usually only order a glass/carafe/bottle with no flight option.

If I've stumped you, I'd be interested in wine bars too although I'm not usually big fans of their food. I've already been to 750ML and Vertical (? in Pasadena).

Many thanks in advance for your advice.

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    Diana RE: theyellowvolvo May 1, 2008 11:36 AM

    do you mean flights, or pairings?

    You may want to try tasting menus with wine pairings at Providence, Spago, or Valentino.

    I always thought that a flight was a tasting of wines by either vintage, varietal (or "horizontal"), or winery(or "vertical"), . Most pairing menues go all over the board with vareital, vintage, and winery as the wines match the foods.

    Valnetino, which has one of the best cellars in thoe country, may do factual flights as opposed to matched wines with dinners if you make a special request.

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      Midlife RE: Diana May 1, 2008 04:58 PM

      Just to clarify: a wine FLIGHT CAN be all of the same vintage, varietal or winery, but it is really any grouping of wines. How broad it is seems to depend on the overall scope of the event. Many educational flights have the purpose of exposing tasters to several varietals, or can be more specific.

      Per Wikipedia: "Tasting flight is a term used by wine tasters to describe a selection of wines, usually between three and eight glasses, but sometimes as many as fifty, presented for the purpose of sampling and comparison.

      Glasses used in tasting flights are usually smaller than normal wine glasses, and they are often presented on top of a sheet of paper which identifies each wine and gives some information about each grape or vineyard. This format allows tasters to compare and contrast different wines.

      An extended tasting will typically consist of several flights, each with a theme. For example, several wines from the same region and vintage would comprise a flight, or several wines from the same variety but different regions. It is typically the responsibility of the tasting organizer to select flights that offer maximum illumination of similarities and differences, while at the same time making sure the progression of flights is appropriate."

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        Diana RE: Midlife May 2, 2008 07:31 AM

        basically what I said, in more words.

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          Midlife RE: Diana May 2, 2008 10:29 AM

          Sorry if I sounded nit-picky. Your response said you thought the word was limited to groupings of the same vintage, varietal or winery and suggested that it was with pairing menus that those lines were crossed. Sometimes I have too much time on my hands.

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      theyellowvolvo RE: theyellowvolvo May 1, 2008 11:40 AM

      Quick clarification---wine flights and/or pairings. Thanks.

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        jojoma RE: theyellowvolvo May 1, 2008 12:00 PM

        Napa Valley Grille in Westwood offers wine flights.

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          New Trial RE: theyellowvolvo May 1, 2008 12:00 PM

          Try Enoteca Drago or AOC.

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          AOC
          8022 W 3rd St, Los Angeles, CA 90048

          Enoteca Drago
          410 N. Canon Dr., Beverly Hills, CA 90210

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            Obessed RE: theyellowvolvo May 1, 2008 01:11 PM

            Upstairs 2 -- you can create you own tasting with 2 oz, 4 oz or 6 oz pours.

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              recovering_vegetarian RE: theyellowvolvo May 1, 2008 04:44 PM

              What about AOC? I guess it is technically a "wine bar," but it feels much more like a restaurant. The food is excellent, and they do offer wine flights.

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                ElissaInPlaya RE: theyellowvolvo May 1, 2008 04:58 PM

                Meditereneo in Hermosa Beach offers wine flights AND lets you create your own, which can be quite fun.

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                  QualityMart RE: theyellowvolvo May 2, 2008 01:49 AM

                  If you're ok with shelling out the big bucks ...

                  Ortolan
                  Sona
                  Providence

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                  Providence
                  5955 Melrose Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90038

                  Sona
                  401 N. La Cienega Blvd., West Hollywood, CA 90048

                  Ortolan
                  8338 W. 3rd Street, Los Angeles, CA 90048

                  1. SauceSupreme RE: theyellowvolvo May 2, 2008 09:52 AM

                    Have you tried Red White + Bluezz? The food there is quite good, and while they are a wine bar (and thus offering wine flights as well as cheese flights), I still think it's a step above Vertical.

                    1. BasilKitty RE: theyellowvolvo May 2, 2008 12:44 PM

                      Flemings Steakhouse in Woodland Hills. I just saw this on their website under the WINE category.

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                        jlrobe RE: theyellowvolvo May 2, 2008 01:11 PM

                        Valentino does italian food with wine pairing. That is probably your best bet and very close to the experience you would get at B&B.

                        All Angelo has a great italian tasting menu. I would call and ask them if they could do a wine pairing for you.

                        piccolo, la botte, via veneto, and angelini osteria are all italian restaurants that have tasting menus. If you call them early, they might try and put together a wine flight for you.

                        There are lots of great sommeliers around town that dont work in an italian restaurant. So those present other options.

                        but Valentino is the clear choice.

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