Going for Pizza tonight- Lucali or Grimaldis and why??
Thanks in advance- Which won't have a long wait and which is better?
Going around 7:30 pm- Thanks
There will waits at both. Probably about a half hour to 45 minutes at Lucali's, I'm not sure how long at Grimaldi's. As to quality, atmosphere and service: Lucali's hands down. Lucali's is BYOB. Grimaldi's serves OK beer and ordinary wine.
Lucali's has it, hands down. Much more care and higher quality ingredients result in a superior pie. Try going earlier to avoid wait. There is a corkage charge when you bring wine (I think Mark sees it as a disposal charge, rather than a corkage charge, but whatever).
I second the vote for Lucali's, only because
1) I've been dying to go there myself, from all the awesome reviews
2) Grimaldi's, although super good, is a bit too touristy
3) Lucali's has much nicer ambience
4) Lucali's has BYOB, w/ a small corkage.
Lucali. Waits at both. But, Lucali will take your number and call you if you go to a nearby bar. Grimaldi will have you wait in line. Pies are better at Lucali and staff is much nicer/efficient there, too. Ambience also much better there. Exposed brick and softly lit, rather than the brightly lit, loud environment of Grimaldi's.
Plus, the calzone is great, as is the BYOB option
I have to avoid being ridiculous here, because I can be. In my opinion, Grimaldi's has been coasting off of a long over reputation that it gained in the 1990's when Patsy Grimaldi owned the place and made every pie himself. It was fantastic. Now the pies are often undercooked and sloppy, with far lesser ingredients thrown in the mix. I have only been to Lucali about 4 times. Each time it was amazing. Not DiFara amazing, but really really good. They take the time to attend to each pie, and the owner oversees the pies. I think that is what it takes: the vision and taste of a single person who cares and astands behind the pies with pride. I definitely got that feeling from Lucali's. Grimaldi's is a mill. They just don't care.
I have to second NYJewboy: "Grimaldi's is a mill. They just don't care." Seriously.
I was there with a group on Wednesday night. After waiting in line for an hour (literally), we got seated with a scowl, which we tried to ignore.
When we finished our pies, which were fine but not knock-your-socks-off spectacular, we still had a little bit of wine left. At that point, the server dropped the bill on the table and came back 30 seconds later to try to collect it.
Then the owner came over and tried to get us to hurry up and get the f** out by saying "We accommodated you, and now we're trying to accommodate them" (gesturing at the line outside). Oh, thanks, buddy. As if he'd done something special for us and we hadn't waited in line for an hour. One of my friends responded, "we just want to finish our wine" (about a half inch in both carafes). He glowered and walked over to give a similar "move along" message to a neighboring table that had also finished their pies and were taking the last sips of their drinks.
We finished our wine and got up - total time from finishing the pie to walking out the door, approximately 4 minutes - but that's four minutes too long for Grimaldi's.
On our way out, the owner said to my cousin, about the friend who'd dared say she wanted to finish her wine, "If she was a man, I'd take her outside and punch her." Lovely. Very charming.
In summary - this was disgusting behavior that obviously doesn't make me want to give Grimaldi's my business again. The sad thing is that Grimaldi's probably doesn't care about building customer loyalty. It seems that Grimaldi's is so certain of a constantly replenishing tourist market that they have no incentive to treat customers with any civility. Their only focus is packing their cash-only business in and out as fast as humanly possible.