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I am visiting Chicago for the first time next week and am staying at the Sheraton Chicago hotel and towers. Despite the fancy digs, I am on a budget and want to spend my money on food not taxis. Being from Toronto, I want to try some good BBQ (which is very hard to find here). While I have been through the great threads on this baord re: BBQ and other Chicago delights, I was hoping someone could give me some advice on what BBQ place is the easiest to get to on public transit (train/bus) from my hotel. Looking for someplace that does real smoked ribs and pulled pork etc. (hecky's? Honey1?). Don't mind spending an hour in transit. Is this possible?

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  1. Go to Smoque! They are one of the best in town, excellent ribs & brisket

    To get there: take the Blue line el from Downtown to the Irving Park/Pulaski stop walk 1.5 blocks south on Pulaski and your there.

    http://www.smoquebbq.com/

    1. Go to Carson's..! just kidding ;-)

      As always abf005 is on the money. Smoque is good. The brisket is worth the trip alone. I however prefer Honey 1 head to head. The Hot links, and ribs in my opinion @ Honey 1 top the brisket, and ribs at Smoque.

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      1. re: swsidejim

        swsidejim is a good authority on Q in this town too:

        Honey1 is also off the Blue line (hmm should we have a thread called Blue line BBQ??) bit more walking than to Smoque, but get off at Western and walk 4-6 blocks north (1/2 mile) or grab the Western bus, it's right before Fullerton.

        I'm not a big fan of this place, but they do serve genuine southern slow smoked ribs & links, they have a huge following and keep it simple and true to the BBQ tradition.

        Whatever you do, don't go looking for BBQ in the Downtown or the loop!! Only the lousy places like Carson's exist there, since they cant have real smokers on premises, they have to pre-cook the food elsewhere and then re-heat it at the restaurant.

        http://www.honey1bbq.com/map.html

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        Honey 1 BBQ
        2241 N Western Ave, Chicago, IL 60647

        Smoque
        3800 N Pulaski Rd Ste 2, Chicago, IL 60641

      2. Thanks! However, I was routing around in the CTA site and Hecky's of Chcago seems much closer (1234 N. Halstead). No good?

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        1. re: bluedog

          You bet Hecky's is good! In fact I like them better than Honey1, but that's just my opinion.

          Now I've only ordered-in from the Halsted location back when I was working in the Loop and they were good, so they might even deliver to your Hotel. As to dining at Hecky's, I've only been to the original in Evanston.

          Since you had said you were willing to travel up to an hour I thew out the Smoque option, its about 40 mins out but well worth the trip.

          1. re: abf005

            Thanks! I have a lot to fit in so if I can get away with a shorter trip I will, but I really appreciate the advice.

            1. re: bluedog

              Hey bluedog welcome to Chicagoland. You've come to the right town for barbecue. Couple of preliminaries. First, though we are basically well meaning, in our enthusiasm we sometimes manage to forget or ignore the actual question being asked. (Some of the responses above are prime examples.) Sorry about that! Also, we tend to be absorbed in silly battles about politically correct barbecue, who is more authentic than who etc. So for your question about BBQ delights that are easy to get to quickly, I would immediately suggest Carson's. It's located at 612 N. Wells St. and should be easy to reach within 15 mins tops. Classic, old- school Chicago style barbecue at its finest through and through. Don't let the wannabe self proclaimed experts steer you wrong. Here there's no attempt at faux-Memphis, faux-Mississippi etc. They're better than that - and this is no pseudo run down shack. Highly recommended!

              1. re: j.walker

                only thing is Carsons does not smoke their meat at the restaurant(if at all), & they dont offer pulled pork. 2 things the OP wanted.

                I imagine the OP can get boiled or baked ribs aka "Meat Jello" in Toronto, and are looking for something closer to real bbq.

                Also missing @ Carsons are the other bbq staples: Hot links, and brisket. I drive over an hour each way to go to Smoque, or Honey 1, I wouldnt walk across the street for Carson's

                You cant go wrong with Hecky's, Smoque, or Honey 1. Smoque, and Honey 1 are BYOB as well.

                .

                1. re: swsidejim

                  Not sure if your post is tongue in cheek. But I'll assume for discussion your post is serious. The fact is your options are extreme fringe choices, not characteristic, typical Chicago. This sort of exaggerated outlier approach is acceptable for local debates, but not for seriously advising a visitor who is looking for something typical and consistent. Seriously guys - I mean come on. (Sorry if I'm missing the joke!)

              2. re: bluedog

                I always appreciate different viewpoints, and am aware of the ongoing "discussions" on the merits of Carsons vs. smokehouse rib joints. And believe me we get into the same types of battles in TO (ironically called the Big Smoke in Canada despite it's distinct lack of smokehouse ribs!), generally over Mexican, Izakayas, "real" BBQ and a few other things we are seriously lacking in. We are fortunately abundant in many many other cuisines (e.g. just about every type of Asian you can imagine, aside from the Izakayas).

                So to be clear, and with apologies to J. Walker (though I do appreciate the input), I am specifically looking for good smoked southern style BBQ, like I can get at Dinosaur Ribs in Rochester NY (the closest truly decent place to TO, though Camp 31 in Paris Ontario is close).

                From this perspective I think Heckys, Honey1 and/or Smoque fit the bill. Are any of these places licensed?

          2. http://www.smoquebbq.com/
            I second Smoque. I live a mile away & think their pulled pork sandwich is fab. When you get off the blue line(O'hare) at Irv. Pk, exit left. take the 1st stairway down & turn right. It's about 1-2 blocks on your right (NW corner) it's across the street from an auto repair shop. It's BYO. Also, not for BBQ, but good, is Paddy Mac's about 1/3 mile N. of Smoque. It's a bar that serves really good bar food. http://www.paddymacschicago.com/
            They have ribs, but I have no idea if they are any good. I will say, I think their fries are waay better than Smoque's.

            1. For an additional option in the other direction (and perhaps a little closer), try Honky Tonk at 1213 W 18th St. Take the pink line to 18th and walk east about 4-5 blocks to Racine. If you walk west on 18th, by the way, you'll run smack into a bunch of good Mexican restaurants, too.

              Here's more on Honky Tonk (which just added pulled pork to its menu):

              http://lthforum.com/bb/viewtopic.php?...

              1. Smoke Daddy is walking distance from the blue line, too.

                Use transitchicago.com to plan your trip.

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                Smoke Daddy Restaurant
                1804 W Division St Ste 1, Chicago, IL 60622

                1. I second Honky Tonk and Smoque. Honky Tonk has a team that competes on the BBQ circuit - Memphis in May, Jack Daniels, etc. They are definitely more in the Memphis tradition. But Smoque is really tasty too!

                  1. First of all, let me say how awesome your title of this thread is, "BBQ on Public Transit".
                    Insert Homer drool... man, bbq on the El, would make more people abandon their cars...lol

                    Anyway, if you do go to Honey 1, [and I actually like them a lot (plus BYOB!)] you can hit Margie's Candies for a flashback dessert.

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                    Margie's Candies
                    1960 N Western Ave, Chicago, IL

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                    1. re: delk

                      ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY AT CARSONS, BLEH BLEH BLEH!!!!!! YUCK!!

                      Gale Street Inn or Twin Anchors are far better albeit for braised variety slatheed with decent bbq sauce.

                      I would pick Smoke Daddy purely for the possibility of chowing on some very good BBQ while listening to some live blues!!! Blues and BBQ go hand in hand!

                      I haven't tried Honey-1 and think that Smoque is overrated. The rub/seasoning tastes processed and stale...sorry but that's the truth. I have yet to try the brisket or chicken.

                      1. re: amoncada

                        Smoke Daddy has got my attention! Any other opinions on it? abf005? Whaddya think?

                        And again thanks to everyone! This info is gold. If anyone is coming to Toronto, I'd be happy to reciprocate: a TTC culinary tour of Toronto would be a blast!

                        1. re: bluedog

                          No I haven't been to Smoke Daddy, but it is on my list of "must hits", you should email me your dates (check my profile) and I'd be willing to meet you there for good 'ol fashioned "Q"!

                          I know its probably good since amoncada rarely steers us wrong, beside live blues & Q? What better combo is there?

                          1. re: abf005

                            Done! Sounds like fun! Have to be Saturday night though. I am not an afficionado but it would great to go with someone who is! And if anyone else is interested let me know (post here or reach me at the e-mail address listed on my profile)

                            1. re: bluedog

                              I was reading the rib recipes at: http://www.thesmokedaddy.com/recipes.asp -- Man, I hope this does not mean they boil the meat!! Who can verify cook method? I don't want to waste my time (or bluedog's) eating boil-b-que...

                              1. re: abf005

                                From the website:
                                "We smoke all of our meats and vegetables every day in our "Lil Red Smoker", using only the finest of Hickory, Apple, and Cherry wood. We take pride in offering the best ribs and pulled meats in town." Perhaps this means they smoke for the restaurant but understand that people can't do it at home? The recipes appear to be a means for getting people to buy their marinades, suaces and rubs.

                              2. re: bluedog

                                I would join you folks as well if I didnt still have a young one at home. With working & commuting all week, the weekends are family time.

                                I am jealous, maybe hit a couple of spots, a mini bbq crawl. Thankfully with abf along, I know he will steer you right, and away from the rib boilers, bakers, and the Carsons of Chicago bbq..

                                enjoy your visit to our fine city bluedog.

                                1. re: swsidejim

                                  swside jim- yeah I wish you could be there too. Maybe next time.

                                  Under my protective wing bluedog & I shall go taste our way across the city eating, chowing and talking about rib smoking techniques!!

                                  The first ever rib crawl will start at Smoke Daddy this Sat 7 pm.

                                  There will be many laughs as we recap the contents of the many sanitised posts on these Chicago BBQ threads. Which light passions as hot as a grill, and blow hot smoke all around!

                                  Yet somehow I wonder if any of the dirty deleted originals still survive on myblogsite, hmm I wonder...

                            2. re: bluedog

                              I've had an excellent pulled pork sandwich at Smoke Daddy, very tender, and their sauce is abundantly tangy. The blues was tangy, too, definitely a flavor enhancer :)

                              Amoncada, I'll go out on a limb and mention that, on a comparative BBQ take-out tour of north-of-gold-coast joints, Twin Anchors' ribs fared somewhat poorly. They seemed drier, and less tender, than a couple of other places we tried. I know it's an old-school fav, just reporting my experience.

                              1. re: ShortOrderHack

                                Twin Anchors isn't barbecue.

                                That is all.

                        2. In my opinion, the ribs at Carson's are excellent, the best I've had in Chicago. They slow-cook the ribs on low heat in a hickory pit smoker, with the barbecue sauce slow-cooked on as well. Very meaty, not much fat, nice barbecue taste to them. Their sides are superb, too - the best cole slaw you can find anywhere, not the crappy hard straw you'll find at Smoque. And you can walk there from downtown. Try them for yourself.

                          Carson's
                          612 N. Wells St
                          Chicago, IL 60610
                          (312) 280-9200
                          www.ribs.com

                          I am not a big fan of Hecky's. The sauce is spicy but the ribs themselves are lackluster, with dried, chewy meat.

                          1. I second Smoke Daddy's. Rachel Ray recommended it and as a former Texan the BBQ is pretty up to par. the corn bread is to die for.

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                            1. re: mai_world

                              Mai World- cute handle!

                              I'll give em a try Sat night and see if they hold true to the real Texas BBQ style of smoking meat with a nice rub and sauce on the side. My fingers are crossed!!

                            2. Saturday Night Rib Crawl:

                              Bluedog & I met up at Smoke Daddy on Sat night as planned. The place was bustling, it had a nice Wicker Park-y feel to it, and there was pretty a diverse but young crowd there. The smell of the Old Hickory Smoker going full-on hits you right at the door and awakens your taste buds. They have a pretty straightforward menu at the table, nice staff and an outstanding beer selection, including IPA and whole bunch of local and national microbrews. So far so good, right?

                              The order:
                              I go with the cup of the Division Street Chile "loaded", and both bluedog and I order the "Taste of the Daddy" @ 19.95 (Choice of ribs + 2 pulled meats). We agree to split up the ½ the rib orders (he got the Babybacks, I got the Spare) when they arrive so that we can attempt to span the menu as best as possible. For our side two meats, we both choose chopped brisket & pulled pork.

                              The chili arrives; I liked it, but thought the chili was pretty standard Chicago style brown diner chili with fresh tortilla chips on the side, not the best, but good.

                              The meat commith... WOW! This is really a ton of food! I feel like Fred Flintstone at the drive through with the Dinosaur ribs tipping over the car. Next to the ribs is a monster heap of fresh hand cut fries (that were excellent) and on two pieces of white bread each is one heap of chopped brisket & one heap of pulled pork. Somehow they got about 3-5 lbs of food onto each plate! OK, so the quantity was amazing and quite impressive, but how was the "Q"??

                              The verdict; the sauce was awful! It ruined everything, and unfortunately we both forgot to ask for no sauce! But even so, the pulled meat pieces that had no sauce were just OK; the rub on those pieces was practically non-existent. The ribs; the babybacks were superior to the spares. The spares were untrimmed and not to a standard St. Louis cut with fatty the tips still attached, both cuts had the papery membrane still firmly attached to the back (I really hate this) and both were sticky and thickly sauced with that same horrible sauce. As far as doneness, the ribs were tender and done to right temp & texture. We both picked casually at our meals, never quite fully committing to consuming the entire contents, and then in the end, about 3/4 of a plate remained for each of us. We both agreed; Smoke Daddy was obviously not a success story to take back home, damn that Rachel Ray endorsement!

                              As we talked some more about all things food related we decided not to wait it out for the band (which was setting up). And instead decided that an immediate course of corrective action be taken, so that I could proudly send bluedog back with his BBQ craving satisfied and re-instate Chicago’s image on the BBQ front. We hopped in my car to head out to Smoque, but first, since we were in the neighborhood, I convinced bluedog that he should give La Pasidita a try, even if it was for just one taco; he happily agreed. After we each had consumed a steak taco, bluedog stated how he would kill to have such a place in Toronto, the Chicago food scene was on the comeback…

                              I then sped us over to Smoque, traffic was light for a Saturday night so we made great time. But as usual parking in the area was tough, with the signs all over the neighborhood saying “No parking for Smoque” everywhere. The line to order was right out to the entrance, the place was a madhouse! I can’t help but wonder “where will we sit?” But we wait in the line anyway (which moves fast) and as always, it just seems to work out, with seats opening up as if on cue. Once we sat, the food was ready about 5 minutes later.

                              The meats second coming; I had gone with a known quantity this time and I knew these guys could deliver results, and they sue did. I had ordered the sliced brisket while bluedog went with the ½ slab of babybacks. Again we split the orders to maximize our BBQ tasting potential. Our consensus: Smoque B-L-E-W away Smoke Daddy! Everything tasted significantly better! This is how BBQ should taste, sauce on the side is standard too, it’s a show of confidence that the Q is great on its own, and that you don’t need to hide it under a sticky sauce. Bluedog apparently does not possess a "Chicago Style" stomach! He was still full from the taco and the Smoke Daddy grazing event. But even so, he managed to eat a few slices of the brisket and then forcefully made room for about 2 more ribs, but that was it for our svelte friend! I was ready to hit a few more place for deep dish Pizza and Maxwell St Polishes, but bluedog was content with touring the town, so I gave him a whirlwind tour of the city and drove him though quite a few of the ethnic neighborhoods, pointing out the best places on each block.

                              I'm glad we made the trek over to Smoque & that we hit Smoke Daddy too, because we ended up having two places for bluedog to contrast against each other.

                              Bluedog: I really had a great time and enjoyed talking and touring you around town, be sure look me up again whenever you’re in town!!

                              9 Replies
                              1. re: abf005

                                great report as always abf005.

                                but how was the coleslaw? ;-)

                                1. re: swsidejim

                                  Skipped the slaw, instead I had the baked beans, cornbread & fries. The cornbread & french fries which ARE were worth mentioning, especially those fries, which were fresh hand-cut and very thin, in fact they were "almost" thin enough to be shoestrings!! Yum!

                                  With all the e coli scares and threats to the cabbage and lettuce crops who on earth would bother to take such a risky chance on such a common "nothing to write home about" side dish?? You might as well be saying to the world; put my bacteria in a cream cup please! Be sure to grind up the pieces real small like baby food and add fresh ground pepper too- LOL!

                                  1. re: abf005

                                    Darn I was hoping to see if it stood up to the high bar set by Carson's and their "legendary" slaw. ;-)

                                    seriously now, thanks for the review of Smoke Daddy, another place to cross off my list, thanks for taking one for the team.

                                2. re: abf005

                                  sucky smoke daddy wasn't that great, I really enjoyed their sides more while i was there. I didn't think their sauce was that bad and I've had plenty of sauces. But I can't really find the Texan BBQ in Chicago. When I say I want a baked potato; I want a baked potato with brisket and BBQ sauce all over it. I want the shack like Texan cafeteria line BBQ service. But hey with deal with what available. I would love to try SMOQUE, I don't know about waiting in line outside just to eat though that isn't fun and its not close to public transportation.

                                  1. re: mai_world

                                    mai world:

                                    Smoque IS very close to public transportation, its right off the Kennedy & Pulaski, and 1.5 blks from the Blue line train to O'Hare, here is the RTA link & trip planer link: http://tripsweb.rtachicago.com/

                                    Second the line I speak of is inside the restaurant it runs from the order counter to the door, my experience is its only about 10-20 mins of waiting. And they have never run out of anything on my several trips, not *yet* anyway.

                                    The sauce is on the side; Texas style (sauce is always on the side) so if you want your baked potato with sauce that's would be a manual operation, even in Texas!

                                    1. re: abf005

                                      sauce is on the side. but who in chicago puts brisket on a potato?

                                    2. re: mai_world

                                      When I went to Smoque last summer, I went for a late lunch/early dinner. We didn't have to wait at all, and there were more empty tables than occupied ones. I think we were there around 3 or 4. They open from 11am till evening, so even if you go on the weekend, you can find an off-time when it's not so busy.

                                      1. re: prasantrin

                                        I agree, I typically go to Smoque right after they open the doors, and although the place fills quickly, going early gurantees all the items on the menu, fresh product, & no wait.

                                    3. re: abf005

                                      abf005, I was going to write a long follow-up to my Chicago visit, but you have summed it up nicely! I will add that I enjoyed the corn bread at smoke daddy's. I believe I DID have the coleslaw (I'm a risk taker), and it was fine, but didn't stand out. But, yes Smoque was the definite highlight. Man, that's good barbecue! Just wish I hadn't been so full! And that one $2 taco at La pasadita....well, that 5 five minutes was another definite highlight of the entire visit!

                                      I also wanted to thank you for taking the time to show me around. It was a fantastic evening and I was impressed with the chowhoundish diversity of some of your neighbourhoods, especially Roger's park. If I had had more time, I would have spent an afternoon wandering along that strip with the Mexican/Indian/vietnamese restaurants. But the conference kept me pretty busy. It also unfortunately kept me from sampling too much more than what we did on Sat night. Did not get to a deep dish place, for example.

                                      Howevedr, I will add a few more notes:

                                      1. A recommendation from my hotel had me at Su Casa for lunch one day. Ugh. I ordered a sampler plate and the "tenderloin" carne asada was leather tough, the beans were like water, and my "cheese" taco appeared to be filled with pumped cheese sauce, like you get on nachos at a ball park. Only the tortilla chips and salsa were anything near good. With so much good Mexican in Chicago, this place shouldn't exist.

                                      2. Another brunch, I went to 7 on Heaven. Oh happy day! More than made up for Su Casa! I had the poached eggs on crabcakes with creole sauce. Mmmmmm! Probably the best non-marland crabcake I've had in a long time! And the selection of hot sauces. Probaly tried six of them in one meal. Would have come back here for sure had I the time.

                                      3. Got taken to Ruth's Chris for a meal. I guess it was fine, but I'm not a steak guy, and besides it's a franchise. abf005 had pointed out a few fine steak places near my hotel that I would have rather tried, but I had no control over this. The Ribeye was good, though, the wine selection interesting, and the calamari nicely done. Pretty standard high end steak house fare, though.

                                      4. Not food related, but I was very impressed with your parks, public art and waterfront. Toronto is also laid out along a waterfront and could learn a thing or two from you.

                                      And another thanks to nsxtasy for your recommendation on sake seeking. Found what I wanted. And I didn;t have to go to Tokyo. Or Kansas City, for that matter, for BBQ. I for one appreciated what Chicago had and was fine devoting some of trip to seeking out what I wanted.

                                    4. I'm from Toronto as well and travelling to Chicago for the 1st time this weekend! I posted a similar question and my eyes were going buggy from the many discussions that can be found here. I've gotten some good feedback on Honey 1 and Smoque, that's the two places that we'll be checking out.

                                      We're staying at a downtown hotel as well. Hope this doesn't affect the posting etiquette, but are you driving or flying? We're still trying to find the best shuttle prices. I can't take the train as I have injuries.

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                                      1. re: red dragon

                                        reddragon,

                                        You cant go wrong with Smoque, or Honey 1. good choices.

                                        enjoy your visit.

                                        1. re: swsidejim

                                          Let's be fair here. As reflected in numerous posts, including some in this very thread, the two spots you name are strictly hit or miss. Not to say there is zero chance of a decent product - that would be an exaggeration - but it's beyond dispute that in these two spots inconsistency rules the day. IF you get there at exactly the right time on the right day and the starts are aligned then maybe - maybe - you come out ok. For visitors to the city with limited time that approach is a bit nonsensical. While the Foodie Commisariat will no doubt growl its disapproval on cue, I suggest a more straightforward approach along the lines of Carson's or Twin Anchors. Just my two cents.

                                          1. re: j.walker

                                            I have never had a "hit or miss" experience at either Honey 1 or Smoque. I prefer Honey 1 to Smoque, but it is a close competition.. The ribs, and other items they turn out are like the product I turn out from my smoker. The key word being smoker.

                                            Before I lived in the south and learned what bbq was, I had terrible meals at Carsons, and Twin Anchors(cold food, flaovorless meat, and bad service), and will never return to either. Baked or boiled ribs do nothing for me. Funny Carsons has boarded up, and closed up more locations than they have opened in the last few years, perhaps the Chicago market is finally becoming educated to what bbq is.

                                            Expand your horizons from the Meat-Jello purveyors, and you will learn what real bbq is about, meat prepared in slowly in a smoker, not in an oven(or boiled in a pot), and finished on a grill.

                                            1. re: j.walker

                                              >> the two spots you name are strictly hit or miss. Not to say there is zero chance of a decent product - that would be an exaggeration - but it's beyond dispute that in these two spots inconsistency rules the day. IF you get there at exactly the right time on the right day and the starts are aligned then maybe - maybe - you come out ok. For visitors to the city with limited time that approach is a bit nonsensical. While the Foodie Commisariat will no doubt growl its disapproval on cue, I suggest a more straightforward approach along the lines of Carson's or Twin Anchors.

                                              I agree with what you're saying, j.walker. Absolutely.

                                              Inconsistency can take many forms. For example, Smoque delivers a consistent product. However, they often run out of one dish or another, and if your timing is wrong, you could be stuck without the one dish you were craving. Their side dishes range from pedestrian (mac and cheese, greasy fries) to dreadful (the cole slaw is long strands of hard cabbage sitting over a thin liquid). The biggest problem of all is that you may take an hour each way to get there from downtown (with highways clogged and public transit both under construction), only to find when you arrive that the wait time to order is another 30-60 minutes, during which time you will be standing - not the most pleasant experience. (Once you order, it seems to work out that you get served and find a seat pretty quickly.) So j.walker's point about visitors with limited time is right on; traveling to Smoque at prime dining hours can be a half day excursion, which is a big chunk of your vacation time here. If you're willing to accept all of that, including the wait, their barbecue meat products come out pretty good (and consistently so), particularly if you are a fan of the dry-rub, smoked style barbecue, rather than barbecue created by dipping/basting with barbecue sauce while cooking.

                                              Carson's is indeed very consistent, and its location in River North is far more convenient to out-of-town visitors staying in the downtown neighborhoods. Their barbecue is excellent, particularly if you enjoy barbecue style created by dipping/basting in the barbecue sauce. They slow-cook the ribs in a hickory pit smoker on the premises (despite the false claims made up by detractors) and they come out with a nice tug on the bone. The ribs are nice and meaty and tasty. They also do a terrific barbecue salmon, and they have other items available as well, including very good steaks, etc. Their sides are terrific, with the very best cole slaw in the Chicago area, with a fine chop and a nice tangy, slightly creamy sauce (I'm pretty sure they use a little horseradish in the flavoring). The service is great, and the hot dishes arrive piping hot and sizzling. And for about the same price as Smoque, you get to sit down in a nice restaurant and enjoy your meal, without the geographical inconvenience or long waiting times for seating and seating.

                                              However, just another thought - if you're so interested in barbecue that you're willing to devote a substantial portion of your limited vacation time to pursuing and consuming barbecue, you may be better off visiting another city which is known for barbecue, where it is probably more prevalent so that you can find a variety of places and styles that are conveniently and centrally located for out-of-town visitors.

                                        2. "Classic, old- school Chicago style barbecue at its finest through and through. Don't let the wannabe self proclaimed experts steer you wrong. Here there's no attempt at faux-Memphis, faux-Mississippi etc. They're better than that - and this is no pseudo run down shack."

                                          I don't want to get involved in the competing merits of the Carson's/TwinA/GaleSt/etc vs. the smokier/sauceless versions of bbq. I just would like to point out that the latter version (so-called faux-Memphis, pseudo rundown shack) has also been a Chicago staple since about the time the blues arrived. You just had to venture south of Madison to find it.