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Mozza pizzaria or osteria?

ChefPapaloma Apr 28, 2008 10:48 AM

ok so my birthday is coming up in less than a month (like 15 days) and ive been wanting to go to one of these two restaurants for a while now.im taking 4 people (me included) and im not sure which one to go to? in your opinion which one would be a better b-day dinner?
thanks =D

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    exilekiss RE: ChefPapaloma Apr 28, 2008 11:08 AM

    Hey ChefPapaloma,

    I think it depends on what you enjoy the most. If you really enjoy gourmet pizzas and a more casual atmosphere, Pizzeria would naturally be your choice.

    For a special night out, and a more extensive menu (and the great Mozzarella bar), I'd recommend the Osteria side.

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      zack RE: ChefPapaloma Apr 28, 2008 11:34 AM

      osteria, unless everybody's ready to eat pizza. it may already be too late for table reservation though 2 weeks out.

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        ChefPapaloma RE: zack Apr 28, 2008 11:47 AM

        for which restaurant? or both?

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          Diana RE: ChefPapaloma Apr 28, 2008 11:49 AM

          both, sadly Though, if you try for lunch instead of dinner, it may be easier

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            ChefPapaloma RE: Diana Apr 28, 2008 11:50 AM

            well ill definatly at least try to get one today but if not i can wait a week. =D but overall which one do youy guys prefer

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        Food Good RE: ChefPapaloma Apr 28, 2008 03:04 PM

        For a casual birthday group, I'd say pizzeria. If it were a birthday date I'd go with osteria.

        The food experience was a notch better at osteria, but I had a great meal and a relaxed time with 4 at the pizzeria.

        You can often walk into the osteria right when they open and get seated at the cheese bar - also a reason to go with 2 and not a group.

        1. a_and_w RE: ChefPapaloma Apr 28, 2008 04:47 PM

          I haven't tried the pizzeria, but was really impressed with the food at the Osteria. Only a small step below Batali's places in NYC and easily the best Italian meal I've had in LA. Consider skipping the mains and doing several different pastas, especially the egg raviolo if it's still on the menu.

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            ChefPapaloma RE: a_and_w Apr 28, 2008 08:21 PM

            well guys im happy to report that i got a table for 4 on a friday night at 5:00 at the pizzaria.so my next question is what should i order thier and what are some of your guys favorite dishes?

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              Diana RE: ChefPapaloma Apr 29, 2008 06:43 AM

              the guacinale egg pizza. The garlic bread (my favorite all night!)

              Lots of people like the squash blossoms, if they are there.

              I like Nancy's Chopped salad, but not everyone is a fan of it. it is really not super special, but its a nice salad.

              People rave about the butterscotch budino, but I can never afford dessert there, so I just go to a yogurt place or something after.

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                wilafur RE: Diana May 16, 2008 11:55 AM

                i'm not a fan of the egg guanciale pizza. perhaps it was an off day but the pizza had no flavor other than bitter. i think they loaded it with too much radicchio.

                i am a big fan of the fennel sausage pizza though.

                the squash blossoms are good as are the arrancine and the bufala mozzarella & prosciutto.

                the butterscotch budino is very good. something about the sea salt and the sweetess of the butterscotch makes for a great dessert.

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                  Maxmillion RE: wilafur May 17, 2008 03:44 PM

                  I second the fennel sausage pizza - it comes dusted with fennel pollen - wow

                  I've tried a couple of the other pizzas and this one is the one to beat.

                  I also like the deep fried, ricotta stuffed zucchini blossoms (seasonal) but they are quite - uh - fried... Not oily, just rich...

                  Gotta leave room for the butterscotch budino -- and I never eat dessert out. It has to be the best dessert I've ever had. EVER. It's just right up my alley (caramel upon creamy butterscotch).

                  Truth be told, I haven't been back there since a series of visits soon after they opened, but the only thing that ever disappointed me on the menu was the Sunday Lasagne special.

                  Angelini Osteria has that down.

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                whatsfordinner RE: ChefPapaloma Apr 29, 2008 06:57 AM

                mussels with Calabrian sauce, chicken liver bruschetta, caprese salad, pizza with rapini and tomatoes.

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                  nd33x RE: ChefPapaloma Apr 29, 2008 09:56 AM

                  Be sure to try the bianca pizza and order it with bacon on it (the manager suggested this the last time I was there and it was incredible). The caprese salad is very good as is the fennel sausage pizza.

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                    Obessed RE: nd33x Apr 29, 2008 12:36 PM

                    Bianca is my favorite pizza there -- and with bacon added I think I will be in heaven!!! Thanks for the tip.

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                    aching RE: ChefPapaloma Apr 29, 2008 12:32 PM

                    The tri-colore salad knocked our socks off! To us, it was even more memorable than the pizza.

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                      dotrat RE: ChefPapaloma Apr 30, 2008 12:45 PM

                      Both restaurants are wonderful but I prefer the pizzeria. It is our favorite place right now. Don't miss the chicken liver bruschetta if it's your thing, it's sublime. I enjoy all of the pizza's especially the clam pizza, sausage pizza & the guancilale pizza. In additiona to these, we always order the squash blossoms (back on the menu now, had them last sunday), the lasagna (only availalbe on sundays; they have one 'il forno' item each day), tre colore salad ( I REALLY want the anchovy dressing recipe!!!?) and the butterscotch budino and/or gelato. On our most recent visit we tried the arancini & didn't like it at all....very bland, but that was the first time I had something I didn't at least 'like' there.
                      The osteria is also very very good.....and yes the ricotta & egg ravioli is like a pillow of love!

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                    dtud RE: ChefPapaloma Apr 28, 2008 09:36 PM

                    i like the pizzeria better than the osteria. i feel like the items at the osteria aren't "special" enough -- like i have had similar tasting food elsewhere. however, at the pizzeria - there are really innovative and new flavors and combinations of flavors that i haven't experienced before and so i like that. also, there are other great italian places in the city, but there aren't that many beyond excellent pizza places. finally, the price point at the pizzeria makes it all the more tasty. the osteria has fairly high prices (not outrageous) - but i always feel like i get out of the pizzeria for a bargain.

                    but - if you actually want to go on your bday - don't write here, get on the phone!

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                      ChefPapaloma RE: dtud Apr 29, 2008 10:59 AM

                      i got a reservation 3 days after my bday but thats ok ill give ou guys the full review when i come back from a hopefully great night!

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                        Diana RE: ChefPapaloma Apr 29, 2008 11:17 AM

                        My best advice, go with our advice, but without expectations! I have learned lately it's better to do that, wherever I go.

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                        Woolsey RE: dtud May 16, 2008 12:49 PM

                        I prefer the Pizzeria, too! The Osteria is good - especially the bar - but the food at the Pizzeria just feels a bit more fully realized to me.

                        My favorite pizzas are the Bianca, the fennel sausage with panna, the goat cheese with bacon, and the newer pizzette with macarpone, ramps, peas, and bacon. Avoid the gorgonzola pizza at all costs.

                        As for salads, the fior di latte is amazing. The rucola with piave is my second favorite.

                        The chicken liver bruschette is great, as is the white bean bruschette.

                        With the antipasti, the arancine never fail to amaze friends I bring. Squash blossoms usually are favorites, too. I really love the avocado and agretti, which has just returned. If the spicy shrimp with melon is back, that's awesome, too. The bone marrow al forno might be better here than at Comme Ça (though without the yummy oxtail jam). If the lamb stracotto with polenta (leftovers from Sunday's piatti) is on the antipasti list, snag it. And the fried fava beans with Meyer lemon are fantastic.

                        I love the butterscotch budino, as well as the olive oil and pine nut gelati.

                        The wine list is really great, too, and reasonably priced.

                        The menu is always evolving; new dishes keep appearing. Look around at what others are getting.

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                          Maxmillion RE: dtud May 17, 2008 03:47 PM

                          my sentiments precisely -- you have confirmed my suspicions, which is why I haven't yet tried the Osteria...

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                          ChefPapaloma RE: ChefPapaloma May 16, 2008 11:51 AM

                          Alright guys!! tonights the night! im goin to the pizzaria and im so excited! sooo ill give you the full review when i get back!

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                            josephnl RE: ChefPapaloma May 16, 2008 12:20 PM

                            Can't wait to here your review. I am obviously in the minority since I truly hate both places because of the unbelievably high noise level and extremely indifferent service (especially in the pizzaria). I truly hope you have a great experience and prove me wrong. (I know I am in the minority, but I also know that I am far from being alone in my opinion re these places).

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                              QualityMart RE: josephnl May 16, 2008 10:54 PM

                              They are notoriously bad about seating people on time. (The pizzeria that is.) I've waited 30 minutes past my reservation time several times and have seen countless similar reports here of the same. I'll be interested to hear how they're doing these days with that.

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                            ChefPapaloma RE: ChefPapaloma May 16, 2008 11:10 PM

                            alright guys im back from mozza!! and WOW it was freakin great! we got seated right on time (5:00) and we started the dinner w/ nancys chopped salad, it wa a little bitter for my taste but i still enoyed it (espesially the cherry tomatoes). then we went with the white bean bruschetta and that was proboly the best bruschetta i have had and im sure ill be craving it tomorrow. now to pizzas: my mom ordered the gorgonzola and fingerling potato pizza which was good even though im not the biggest fan of gorgonzola, my brother got a speck and tomato pizza which was great according to him, then my friend got a speck,pineapple, and jalapeno pizza that was really good! but the best one of all was my salami and fresno chile pizza man was that awesome! the crusts were great! now for dessert: i got the carmel capponata that was just ok then my friend got a banana gelati pie which was friggin awesome! overall it was one of the best dinners ivee had (but i have not had any fancy dinners like this before so i have nothing to base it against) my only complaint was the waiters snooty attitude and arguing w/ my mom over wine. but other than that ill will definitly be returning to mozza again! thanks everyone that helped me with my descions and helping make this an awesome birthday dinner!

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                              Servorg RE: ChefPapaloma May 17, 2008 07:13 AM

                              First of all I am feeling a little faint from seeing someone solicit board advise, tell everyone when they were going to go to the restaurant and then actually report right back on how they found it. We are throwing a dinner in your honor at Osteria in a few weeks and hope you can be there to get your plaque of appreciation! Mostly kidding - but you are a rare and much appreciated poster.

                              You obviously went early. How was the noise level? Your choice of pizza would have been mine as well. And a banana gelati pie? Drool. What was the final $damage for your meal?

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                                torta basilica RE: Servorg May 17, 2008 03:13 PM

                                LOL!!! You are hilarious and SO right!

                                Would love to hear from the OP what the wine argument was over...

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                                  Maxmillion RE: torta basilica May 17, 2008 03:48 PM

                                  ^ me too!

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                                Woolsey RE: ChefPapaloma May 18, 2008 06:29 AM

                                I'm sorry the waiter argued over the wine. That sucks. Most of the waitstaff is really good there, though some are better than others.

                                The salame with Fresno chili pizza is amazing. It took me forever to get around to trying it, but I'm so glad I did. It's another favorite. I'm surprised you liked the gorgonzola pizza. The one time we ordered it, we actually gave the leftover slice as punishment to the coworker who flaked on going to lunch with us - she thought we were being nice to her until she took a bite. It's too bitter for my liking.

                                I'm glad you enjoyed Pizzeria Mozza!

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