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Apr 27, 2008 11:50 PM

A good wine that I would want to drink 10 years from now for something special?

I want a wine that, ten years from now, I can say I bought when I was 21 and open it on some very special occasion and enjoy its splendor. Something I can treasure while I'm passing the best years of my life. The perfect wine if you will.

I really don't know how my palate will develop over the years, but though 50 dollars is a tentative limit, I'd really just prefer a wine that provides the most bang for the buck, and if I have to spend 75 dollars on a bottle of wine that is world's different than a 30 dollar or even a 50 dollar wine, I'll do it

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  1. You just absolutely cannot go wrong with Sauternes.... will age well beyond your 10 year target and fit well within your budget today...

    See what your wine vendor(s) can offer you in non-trophy Sauternes from the 2003 or (dreaming) the 2001 vintage... Example: 2001 Chat. Guiraud at around $70 bucks today will be ambrosia in ten years.... that's the kind wine to go for, cellar it well and toast chowhound when you open it:)

    1. I would probably opt for a Chateauneuf-du-Pape -- red. 2005 is one of the best years ever for this varietal, and there are quite a few goodies out there for less than $50.

      Good Sauternes costs significantly more than that.

      There are also some wonderful Bordeaux available in that price range. If you want one of those, ask your wine merchant to help you select one. It won't be one of the "famous" ones, but many of the lesser known Bordeaux are just as good!

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      1. re: ChefJune

        Agree with you, ChefJ. The '05 bordeaux are just released or will be soon with many 10-year candidates in the $40-60 range (eg., Clos du Marquis St.Julien), or for that matter there are good candidates in the '04s again with your advice to get steered to a 10 yr. wine (eg., Sociando Mallet Haut Medoc).

      2. Look to France, Spain or Italy for bottles that will age well. Stay away from new world wines, most of which are meant to be drunk on release. If you can get your hands on a 2005 red burgundy, bordeaux or rhone wine, buy that. Your best bet is to walk into a reputable wine store and ask a smart local wine merchant that same question from what they have in stock.

        I disagree with Chicago Mike in this case, and if anything, I think it just shows that personal taste (which you haven't expressed here) makes a big difference. While I certainly wouldn't turn down a 10 year old Sauternes, I wouldn't choose it as the wine I'd cellar for 10 years -- it's just not my favorite. I'd much rather have a red burgundy or a white loire.

        Just FYI: I don't want to discourage you, but know that wine is a fickle game. There's no guarantee that any bottle you buy now will be perfect, or even good in 10 years. You'll have to store under good conditions, and even then, the bottle could turn out to be corked, or have some other inherent flaw. Keep that in mind. Whatever you do, don't buy it and then store it poorly -- it won't make it!

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        1. re: oolah

          a 2001 Sauternes would be 17 years old in 10 years.

          Moreover, I agree 100% with the problem you suggest that the this posters cellaring conditions might not be optimal. IMO Sauternes (or port for that matter) has greater immunity to mediocre cellaring.

          1. re: Chicago Mike

            Sorry about my bad math. I hope you didn't take offense at my comment -- I meant no disrespect. Just wanted to point out to the OP that it's very difficult to recommend a wine s/he'll like 10 years down the road without any indication of what s/he likes now.

            Interesting point about cellaring Sauternes and port. I wasn't aware of that. I'm guessing it's the higher alcohol levels that help it keep better?

            1. re: oolah

              i would say definitely yes.

              And, in general, these wines are "made to cellar", the winemaker has in mind that some peeps will be keeping these for decades.

        2. I strongly disagree with oolah. If you are thinking only ten years out I would recommend new world wines. Yes a lot of them are designed for early consumption but if you look to the reputable areas like Napa or Barossa for instance, you will find many wines that will age for 10 years or more. CDPs, the good ones, are structured to cellar for upwards of 25-40 years. Good luck to you.

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          1. re: Lenox637

            Lenox, I'm with you if you're talking higher-priced wines ($75 and up), but at $50 I think you'll find a lot of old world 10-year options.

            That said, I'm totally biased and I just prefer old world wines to new world ones, so you can take all my recs with that piece of info in mind :)

            I have a measly 40-bottle cellar, and the wines I'm hoping to hold for the next 10 years that cost around $50 are:

            2005 Domaine de L'Arlot Nuits St. Georges Cuvée Les Petits Plets
            2005 Domaine du Closel Savennières Clos du Papillon

            I don't know that you can get your hands on these anymore, but if you can, they should fit your requirements.

            1. re: Lenox637

              >> I would recommend new world wines.

              I would too. I have had bias toward the new world wines but with the USD being so low and exchange rate so unfavorable buying the new world wines sounds like a better idea even more. I just had absolutely delicious Turnbull's 2005 Cabernet Sauvignon for $40 - this will age very well for the next 10 years and it won't break your bank account. Delicious California Cab at its best.

            2. If you want a reasonably priced domestic, I would try something from Ridge (just not the Montebello which would set you back). These wines age increadibly well. I also would reccomend cabernet from Clos du Val, espically their Stags Leap District. Having had the opportunity to taste several old vintages, I have to say they hit their sweet spot at about 12-15 years. I'm sure some people would love the really old stuff (30 yrs. plus), but I'm just not too into that leathery thing. One problem you have though is you may want to get at least a couple of bottles. It's definately not so fun saving a bottle for 10 years only to find out it's spoiled.

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              1. re: Rizza

                "It's definately not so fun saving a bottle for 10 years only to find out it's spoiled."

                Yes, I'll definitely keep my options open. I definitely wouldn't want to wait 10 years to drink mediocre or even bad wine

                1. re: takadi

                  If you don't have temperature controlled storage, all wines will show degradation rather than the secondary characteristics from proper aging.

                  It doesn't sound like you have proper storage from the context of your posts. My advice is forget about buying something now and buy something from a reputable retailer later.