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Ping's Cafe - Vancouver, Japanese Yoshoku Cuisine, Pictures

fmed Apr 24, 2008 10:21 AM

A couple of months ago, there was a bit of a buzz when this restaurant quietly opened Main St. It was so under the radar that the chefs of the well-known places along this strip were taken by surprise.

Ping's Cafe occupies the same space as...Ping's Cafe. Let me explain. This restaurant is re-purposing the old sign (look at the pics) of an old Chinese-Canadian greasy spoon called Ping's where you were once able to buy cheap ($2.25) greasy burgers and "Chinese" food like Chow Mein way back when. Interestingly, at one point in the original "Ping's" history, the former owner's son tried to turn it into a semi-hip but short-lived nightspot called "Ping's At Night". The new owners, during renovations, decided to leave the old sign up and call it "Ping's Cafe".

I digress....

Ping's serves Yoshoku-style Japanese cuisine. Yoshoku is "Western" cooking reinterpreted to Japanese tastes. It occupies the same aesthetic space as HK Cafes (cha chaang teng) and our very own diners/greasy spoon.

Essentially, Yoshoku is Japanese-inflected "homestyle" Western comfort food. Other places you can get this type of food are Yoshoku-Ya (near Stanley Park) and Hi Genki, in Burnaby, a restaurant which serves the Japanese senior-citizens living close by at the Sakura-so and Nikkei Home residences. Hi Genki is run by Fujiya. Some izakaya, and other Japanese restuarants have similar items on their menu.

We ordered pretty much everything on their appetizer section ($5-$8 per dish). Examples of the offerings include - Kabocha Korroke ("Croquettes"), Kinpira - Burdock and Carrot Salad, Tongkatsu, Yakitori Skewers, Karaage Gyoza, etc. The dishes were small but the prices were right. It allowed us to order quite a number of them without impacting the pocketbook too much. They also have some mains that average around $15 per. They have a limited wine list, a decent beer list and they only have one brand of sake - luckily the sakes are from the very good Osake - the local artisinal sake maker on Granville Island.

The restaurant is run by Joshua (formerly of Modern Club) and mother Hiroki. Hiroki told me that she really wanted to serve Okonomiyaki, but the kitchen modifications required were prohibitive. I'm hoping that this happens someday.

Overall, this restaurant fits right into the Main St dining mosaic. I forsee Ping's becoming more of a "drinks-forward" sort of a place. The prices are decent, and the food is scenester-friendly.

 
 
 
 
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  1. fmed RE: fmed Apr 24, 2008 10:23 AM

    The food...

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    Ping's Cafe
    2702 Main St, Vancouver, BC V5T3E8, CA

     
     
     
     
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      fmed RE: fmed Apr 24, 2008 10:25 AM

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        peter.v RE: fmed Apr 24, 2008 12:09 PM

        Thanks fmed! I'd been reading the buzz on this place over on UDF and was curious. Maybe I'll get out to it before I move back to Calgary...

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          fmed RE: peter.v Apr 24, 2008 01:01 PM

          Moving back? Are you still at Wicked? I've been meaning to drop by to introduce myself.

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            peter.v RE: fmed Apr 24, 2008 08:56 PM

            This weekend is my last at Wicked. I'm at field school for two weeks after, then I've got a contract in Calgary. Will be back in the fall, not sure if I'll be at Wicked yet though.

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      cdnprairiedog RE: fmed Apr 24, 2008 12:42 PM

      *sigh*, Ping's at Night was awesome vegetarian food...too bad it didn't pan out. Can't wait to try the new establishment.

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        fmed RE: cdnprairiedog Apr 24, 2008 03:18 PM

        I feel a need to qualify - yoshoku isn't a cuisine I particularly "like"...it's fine and I can take it or leave it. My review of Ping's is more centered on how successfully they have or can pull off the concept.

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          Sam Salmon RE: fmed Apr 24, 2008 03:41 PM

          Thanks for the pics-nothing says 'homestyle' like frozen peas(!)

      2. jay_kay RE: fmed Apr 24, 2008 06:41 PM

        Thanks fmed, very interesting to learn about the 'yoshoku' concept being played out in Vancouver, wasn't aware of it or probably just blinded by the proliferation of 'izakaya'. My image of it in Japan is of these older style interior, really homey places run by a couple who take pride in what they serve and were a nice break from straight up Japanese food.

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          fmed RE: jay_kay Apr 24, 2008 07:59 PM

          Check out Yoshoku-ya, jay_kay. It has a French (and perhaps German) twist. It would be closer to one you might experience in Japan than Ping's.

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          tom_edo RE: fmed May 1, 2008 12:12 AM

          Checked it out, the other day. Worth checking out because of the low key signage and its thew new hip spot. I think the value could be a bit better.

          Found a review on
          http://vancouverslop.blogspot.com

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            gourmet wife RE: tom_edo May 20, 2008 09:47 AM

            Personally I found it over rated for the price. It's nice and pretty inside but the price per entree is ridiculous. Btw, the original owner story is incorrect. I actually know the owner before that, the real "Ping". Which is why we went to check it out last week.

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              fmed RE: gourmet wife May 20, 2008 10:36 AM

              Agreed. You get a much better deal for this kind of food elsewhere. That's why I see it more of a drinking establishment for the Main St scenesters than a "real" restaurant, IMO.

              >>Btw, the original owner story is incorrect. I actually know the owner before that, the real "Ping".

              The "Ping's at Night" story? It could very have been an owner after Ping (so perhaps not the "original" owner). I have strong memories of Pings at Night. I have a very good friend who has lived very close to Ping's for about 20 years...so I know the area very well.

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                gourmet wife RE: fmed May 22, 2008 10:53 AM

                Sorry, I didn't mean Ping's at Night wasn't true, just the technical term of using "original" when knowing who was the first owner was Ping himself. Call me picky =(

          2. JorgHaneke RE: fmed Jun 7, 2008 01:06 PM

            Wondering if the Main Street Hipsters can afford the price.

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              fmed RE: JorgHaneke Jun 8, 2008 10:58 PM

              >> Wondering if the Main Street Hipsters can afford the price.

              This is what will determine how long Ping's will stay in business.

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              aburitoro RE: fmed Jul 22, 2008 10:22 AM

              My girlfriend felt like eating omu-rice the other day, so we decided to go to Yoshoku-ya on Denman, but they were closed. I remembered Ping's mentioned here so we thought we'd try it out. I was a bit skeptical walking in there, since in my mind, the decor felt a bit too trendy and loungy for this type of cuisine. I've been to way too many places that emphasized such atmosphere over food. My girlfriend and I looked at each other with a look of wariness, and we only decided to stay because we were starving. It's a good thing we did, as the food did not disappoint.

              We ordered the niku jaga (meat and potatoes), the chicken karaage (fried chicken), and the hambagoo coated eggs dinner (boiled egg with a coating of hambuger, breaded, and deep fried, served with a veg salad and potato salad).

              Niku jaga was good. Very straightforward, wholesome, comforting. We only ordered the karaage since they serve it with daikon oroshi (grated daikon) and ponzu (citrus soy sauce), and while at first we wanted mayonnaise, we were very happy without it. The daikon and ponzu are a refreshing condiment to the karaage. The hamburger-egg was good as well, but I think I might have preferred straight ketchup over their yoshoku sauce, only because that's how I ate similar dishes growing up. Nevertheless, it was good.

              The price was a bit high for the serving size, but I'm sure that can be attributed to the decor and the presentation of the dishes (I didn't care for either). Our bill came to $30 for 2 appetizers and one dinner, which was just barely enough for the two of us (we could have eaten another appetizer). To be honest, I'd rather save a few bucks and eat these dishes in a divey place with less attention to decor, being comfort food and all.

              The service was very warm and friendly.

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                fmed RE: aburitoro Jul 22, 2008 10:44 AM

                >> To be honest, I'd rather save a few bucks and eat these dishes in a divey place with less attention to decor, being comfort food and all.

                aburitoro...you may want to check out Hi Genki if you haven't. It's the cafeteria to a Japanese seniors center. It's right next to the National Nikkei Heritage Center in Burnaby.

                Ping's is now trying to rebrand themselves as an izakaya rather than a yoshokuya from what I have gathered. The portions are izakaya-sized, but I think they should really reconsider the pricing to reflect that.

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                Hi Genki Japanese Restaurant
                6680 Southoaks Cres, Burnaby, BC V5E4M7, CA

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                  aburitoro RE: fmed Jul 22, 2008 11:28 AM

                  Ping's menu did indeed mention izakaya (I think referring to the appetizers).

                  Thanks for mentioning Hi Genki. I'll have to check that out someday.

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