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Apr 23, 2008 10:08 AM

Grayz v. L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon?

Any preferences between these two among any of you who have explored both? We have a special occasion coming up and these are the two options, but we're having trouble making the final call. Will just be two people celebrating a birthday, so full dinner as opposed to bar scene. Would love any input...


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  1. I think you are referring to Cafe Gray at TWC? ( i made the same typo in another thread and caused some confusion). Personally I am a big fan of Robuchon and I enjoy the food there more. However, since Cafe Gray is closing in late June, if you have never dined there before and your dinner happens to be before it closes, I will suggest dining there. The food in Cafe Gray is definitely more of a full dinner type while Robuchon's dishes are small plates for the most part (you can order entree size or tasting menu if you want, but I found ordering a la carte as small plates being the best way to enjoy the food there).

    If we are talking strictly about food, my vote is for Robuchon.

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    1. re: kobetobiko

      Thanks so much for your response! I'm actually referring to Grayz, which is the new small plate Cafe Gray follow-up in the old Aquavit location. But the Robuchon feedback is a big help - thanks.

      1. re: kobetobiko

        Grayz is in the old Aquavit space and is more of a lounge turned restaurant with small plates, doesn't seem like the best place to celebrate a birthday. It's located at 13-15 West 54th Street. It received one star from the New York Times but is pretty affordable.

        L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon is of course, one of the most expensive restaurants in New York and located in the Four Seasons, earned three stars from the New York Times, etc. I've never had the pleasure to dine there, mostly due to skittishness about the price, but my friends who have been have only come back raving about the deliciousness of the food (and the astronomical bill).

        I'm not sure why you'd be comparing the two...unless you meant to write Cafe Gray in the TWC as opposed to Grayz.

        Cafe Gray
        10 Columbus Cir, New York, NY 10023

        L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon
        57 E 57th St, New York, NY 10022

        13 W 54th St, New York, NY 10019

      2. I have never been to Grayz. We had the pleasure of dining at L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon and it was one of our best dining experiences this year. It is the only Robuchon with tables, though hounds strongly suggested dining at the bar. Suggest you order the small plates. Also the advice we received from a hound about avoiding the tasting menu was spot on. We still had plenty of foie gras, just not in every dish. Enjoy!