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Toronto Life: Best New Restaurants- pick one

kgoffin Apr 22, 2008 07:23 PM

I just picked up a copy of Toronto Life outlining the 10 best new restaurants. I would love to hear the pros and cons of any of these restaurants. I'm not from Toronto and only have two nights in town.

Colborne Lane
Greg Couillard's Spice Room
Terroni Adelaide

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  1. Rabbit RE: kgoffin Apr 23, 2008 04:38 AM

    I've not tried (even close to) the whole list, but have been to #1 and #2, and I would very much recommend Colborne Lane. Here are reviews (with some photos) of both:

    - http://www.rabbitreporting.com/restau...
    - http://www.rabbitreporting.com/restau...

    Next on my list would be C5 (but in large part because I want to check out the renovations on the new ROM).

    Also, if you have two nights, I might suggest picking one from the list and going with an "older" spot for night #2 . There are so many great choices in Toronto. Please let us know where you end up.

    1. Charles Yu RE: kgoffin Apr 23, 2008 06:11 AM

      Unless you really enjoy the smell and sight of new decor, with only two nights in town, why bother with the above list? In my opinion, none of the 10 provides a dining experience with enough wow factor to please the palete. ( may be Colborne lane with its pseudo-molecular cuisine. However, I still find the food long on presentation but short on taste ) I would suggest using your precious time in having a great Chinese lunch or dinner at Lai Wah Heen. Some great oysters and excellent seafood at Starfish. A 'high-end' dinner with the 'total package' at Splendido ( Toronto's answer to a good Michelin stars restaurant ). And finally, a great Japanese 'Omakase' dinner at Sushi Kaji ( the best Japanese restaurant east of Vancouver?! ). Other honourable mention worth considering include Canoe, George, Chiado and Scaramouche.
      Welcome to TO and Happy Chowing!

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        mac n cheeze RE: kgoffin Apr 23, 2008 06:31 AM

        Welcome to Toronto!

        I largely agree with Charles' commentary regarding the list and alternatives he provides. I have not eaten at all of the above, so I can't provide a full commentary, however...

        Colborne Lane is likely the best choice on that list, but it lacks a "wow" factor. All the dishes are adequately prepared, but the place is more show than substance.

        One is just grossly over-rated. All my dinners there have been disappointing for the price point. The fish had always been over cooked, foods are too salty and otehr wise bland, and many dishes are swimming in butter or oil. Take a pass.

        Terroni is a pizza joint. Nice room, decent pizza, no reservations (at least not as of a few months ago), but a pizza joint.

        Great oysters/seafood at Starfish. Superb fish and service at Chiado (though the room is a bit formal). Great small plates/tapas style wine bar at Jamie Kennedy, great small plates (and reasonably price friendly) at Nyood.

        High end dining at Splendido is terrific. Great mid-range, fresh "bistro-style" fare at Globe

        There are much better dining options around the city than the list above, with some at better price points

        Good luck and have fun

        1. estufarian RE: kgoffin Apr 23, 2008 06:37 AM

          Yet another vote that's consistent with the replies so far. Have tried 6 of them, and the only one I returned to was Colborne Lane - but haven't been there for over 6 months - it's gimmicky rather than satisfying.
          Go with the "old faithfuls".

          1. Googs RE: kgoffin Apr 23, 2008 08:18 AM

            I would guess that L'Unita would suit your tastes. As you home page indicates you love pizza and pasta, prefer to eat local, and love a good red wine it hits all of those marks. They source locally, make much of their pasta on site, have delicious pizzas, and the wine list is exclusively from Italy and Ontario. I'm not sure where all the "wow factor" commentary is coming. You appear to want to try something new. Good for you. Simplicity is often overlooked as the outstanding part of the dinner.

            Charles' alternate list of tried's and true is full of excellent choices if you want a fall back position.

            134 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5R2H6, CA

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              Pincus RE: Googs Apr 23, 2008 01:44 PM

              What is the price point at L'Unita?

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                millygirl RE: Pincus Apr 23, 2008 01:48 PM

                I'd say 2 could get outta there for $150 or less....depending on how much you drink. Their menu is on the website.

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                  Pincus RE: millygirl Apr 23, 2008 02:03 PM

                  Their menu was broken when I tried to view it. Thank you!

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              JToronto RE: kgoffin Apr 23, 2008 10:14 AM

              I have been to all except C5, Amaya, Marben and Cowbell. I would highly recommend Lucien and/or Colborne Lane (I preferred Lucien but most on this board seem to prefer Colborne Lane). Terroni is a simple pizza place, L'Unita will be a good neighborhood bistro but is suffering from too much hype at the moment. One and Spice Room were uneven and overpriced in my opinion. I also agree with maybe trying an "established" place too. Remember these are best "new" restaurants, not best restaurants.

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                JamesJT RE: JToronto Apr 23, 2008 12:59 PM

                C5 is probably the pick of the bunch. Does Terroni on Adelaide really count as a new opening? While the venue is amazing, the menu is identical to the other venues.

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                kgoffin RE: kgoffin Apr 23, 2008 01:10 PM

                The replies have all been wonderful. Thank you. I am not necessarily looking for new I'm just looking for fabulous food. I just happened to see the Toronto Life list. The Saturday night dinner is a celebration of our 10th wedding anniversary and my birthday. So I am looking for some place special, ie. romantic and comfortable with mouthwatering food. Sunday night we have to eat early because we are going to a show. We will be casually dressed. I was thinking Jamie Kennedy Wine Bar or Terroni. What do you think? A few people have commented on the "old favourites". Could you please offer me some of your "old favourites". The only thing I want to stay away from is some super-hip place where I will feel extremely unfashionable.

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                  estufarian RE: kgoffin Apr 23, 2008 01:15 PM

                  Splendido on sat.
                  JKWB on Sun.

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                    Rabbit RE: estufarian Apr 23, 2008 02:35 PM

                    I'd like estufarian's line-up for my anniversary/birthday!

                    (and if you're deciding between JKWB and Terroni, they are very different experiences. Terroni, which I love, is loud and pretty authentic Ital, but probably not mind-blowing. JKWB is kinda special because it's got a menu focus that is local and Canadian. Also, if you've really blown it out the night before, small plates might be a relief!).

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                      Charles Yu RE: estufarian Apr 23, 2008 04:30 PM

                      Agree with estufarian's line-up as well!! Great suggestion!
                      BTW, I was at JKWB just two days ago. Their current version of 'pulled pork' poutine, lamb stew and grass fed beef liver were all outstanding. So was the simply prepared pan seared wild stripe bass. High light of the evening was the pairing of the chaucuterie platter with a glass of Weinbach L'interdit Grand Cru Riesling 2004. Steep mark-up for the wine though. Charged $300 for the bottle!

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                        estufarian RE: Charles Yu Apr 23, 2008 07:49 PM

                        I'm not a great fan of Weinbach. I'd choose Trimbach, or Kuentz Bas, or Schlumberger (if I had a choice).

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                      mac n cheeze RE: kgoffin Apr 23, 2008 01:19 PM

                      Jamie Kennedy - hands down - over Terroni anytime. Great local food, great winr list, unpretentious. JKWB is one of my favourite places in the city. I have never ever felt uncomfortable/unfashionable there

                      As for a 10th wedding anniversary and birthday - Splendido is superb (but very expensive - I have no idea of your price point). George is also a good choice - I find the room romantic, and comfortable. The food is not the same level as Splendido, but it is very good. I also really like Globe Bistro -- I'm not sure how romantic it is, but I also wouldn't call it a hipster place - the owner there Ed Ho - is great - very attentive to his restaurant

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                        millygirl RE: mac n cheeze Apr 23, 2008 01:43 PM

                        Do yourselves a favour and book a table for 2 at Scaramouche. Trust me you won't regret it! It's the perfect spot to celebrate a special occasion.

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                          Googs RE: millygirl Apr 23, 2008 02:14 PM

                          Ditto what Millygirl sez. Mouth-watering, romantic, comfortable, special, flawless service, spectacular view of the city. That's Scaramouche to a tee. With two things to celebrate, why take chances?

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                          estufarian RE: mac n cheeze Apr 23, 2008 02:46 PM

                          Yes, If you want more 'value' I heartily endorse Globe Bistro for the Anniversary dinner.
                          But it's no Splendido!

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                            stephen RE: mac n cheeze Apr 23, 2008 04:02 PM

                            mac n cheeze has it down. Go to Jamie K's on Sunday.

                            I have been to JKWB at least 30 times now and have not a single complaint in regards to the service and vibe. Practically the same in regards to the food, with a couple of instances of over-salting...

                            My favorite restaurant in the GTA by a mile.

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                              estufarian RE: stephen Apr 23, 2008 07:57 PM

                              Ok - I know I recommended JKWB - but that's a bit over the top. Their wine list is (usually) excellent. One of the best in the city. But the food has been patchy. What bothers me the most is the aromas from the kitchen permeate the restaurant - this means that you can "enjoy" the aromatic dishes several times throughout the evening as other people order them too. And, at busy times, things can turn sour (ingredients can be a mixture of hot & cold, or there can be long delays between courses). But relatively early on a Sunday should be fine. My last meal in the restaurant area was just plain bad. Overcooked, underspiced and missing some of the promised ingredients. But on a Sunday, especially early, the portents should be good. This is comfort food, not fine dining.

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                                skylineR33 RE: estufarian Apr 23, 2008 08:37 PM

                                Yes, I agree, it is comfort food. In my opinion, just no match to other fine dining establishments listed in this post, of course it is at a more affordable price.

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                          MaryZ RE: kgoffin Apr 23, 2008 01:57 PM

                          I like Globe & JKWB (local ingredients, nicely prepared, not super-expensive). Found Cowbell, Spice Room VERY underwhelming. C5 is ok, but I think that you could do better.

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                            Westwardho RE: kgoffin Apr 23, 2008 03:32 PM

                            I've been around to Lucien, Colborne Lane, One, C5, Amaya and the new Terroni. Colborne Lane is probably my favourite although there have been some service issues since the Toronto Life article. Just go in knowing that it'll be expensive for not very much food. Cool science if you are into that stuff. I love the patio at One, but I'm not pretty enough to hang out there. C5 is vast but the food good - nice bar area. Amaya was really good but way far from my 'hood. I'd go back if it were closer. Terroni? It is what it is. Pizza-pasta. Competent, but top new resto? Were the pickings really that slim?

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                              torestohound RE: kgoffin Apr 27, 2008 01:15 AM

                              None would be anyone's safe pick for the two top places. Your link says trad Italian. Try Terroni for cheap and huge or Noce or Giancarlo for more upscale. Noce, in particular, makes great southern Italian pasta. Not cheap though. As with most places here, call first and act like you're special. Doesn't cost more and it works. For pasta and romance, Joso's. Again, call first. How's Beckta?

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