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jggrossm Apr 22, 2008 10:48 AM

We're Italy-bound. Where's good to eat that has really great Italian food & wine that won't break the bank? (The trip's already going to do that.) =)

  1. jenniebnyc May 9, 2008 08:37 PM

    ZaZa, Crispo, DaVino, Elios

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      foodwhisperer May 9, 2008 04:44 PM

      Tante Bacci or it's sister around the corner, good food , reasonable in the west village. Other suggestions are D'Andrea on Hudson, Malatesta for pasta,,and Ennio and Michael's on La Guardia Place.

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        ywwan May 8, 2008 09:52 AM

        Go to Celeste on Amsterdam between 84th and 85th. Its cash only, no reservations - go early or be prepared for a long wait. The owner is there every night and he takes special pride in everything and can be relied on for affordable wine reccomendations to go with the food. Every dish is excellent and the specials are always worth checking out as well. Also the cheeses...

        1. Sophia. Apr 29, 2008 11:55 AM

          I loved Bianca on Bleecker at Bowery. Homey, inexpensive, and the loveliest lasagna I've had in a long time.

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            Feaster18 Apr 29, 2008 06:21 PM

            Celeste on upper west side is delicious and cheap too... go early because they don't take reservations and the line can get pretty long!

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              sugartoof May 8, 2008 08:59 AM

              I had a horrible meal at Bianca. Much of what we ordered didn't match the menu, and the cream on my gnoochi tasted off. Service was obnoxious too.

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                KTinNYC May 8, 2008 09:49 AM

                The cream sauce that comes with the gnoochi is a gorganzola cream and can be quite strong but I love it. If it was "off" did you send it back? The GM is incredibly affable and helpful and I can't imagine he would not have fixed the situation.

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                  sugartoof May 9, 2008 05:29 PM

                  They really weren't sympathetic, or interested in hearing a complaint. They just brought us the check for the entire meal. I made it through about half of my Gnoochi before I started to really worry, but I normally love a good Gorganzola with a lot of kick. This was something else. Waitstaff wasn't interested. The fried artichokes were just outright burnt. We picked at our food and then gave up. It really wasn't good....and that's not even describing the inappropriate behavior on the part of the waitstaff, rubbing my shoulders while I was ordering my food....it would be unacceptable even if the food had been good, but this wasn't. People at the other tables looked really happier then we were.

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                    KTinNYC May 9, 2008 09:55 PM

                    Sorry to hear about your experience and as much as I like Bianca I totally agree that the fried artichokes are fried to the point of cremation.

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              cocoloco14 Apr 28, 2008 02:48 PM

              piccolo angolo on hudson street is great too. and not expensive at all. the meatballs are seriously the size of my head

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                rvulaj Apr 28, 2008 03:09 PM

                if for going out on a warm night. go to barolo on w broad by spring st. and eat in the garden

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                toovernator Apr 26, 2008 06:20 PM

                Enoteca Barbone on Avenue B -- amazing fried asparagus, carbonara, chicken liver ravioli. And a nice outdoor garden as well. Very reasonably priced, nice wine list. All in all a nice neighborhood place with solid, affordable food and nice atmosphere but not trendy or mobbed.

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                  sugartoof Apr 27, 2008 06:12 PM

                  The fried asparagus, and chicken liver raviola, along with the gnoochi are indeed amazing. Unfortunately, the entrees tend to take a nosedive, and the service can be blatantly negligent.

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                  OliveJuice123 Apr 23, 2008 11:34 AM

                  Bar Pitti!!! I have lived in Italy, and this is extremely authentic and delicious, and does not break the bank. Via Emilia has some delicious homemade pasta, although it depends on what you order. Some pastas are average, some excellent.

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                    Pan Apr 24, 2008 09:56 PM

                    Which are recommended? (And while you're at it, where is it? Yeah, I know I can check menupages.com, but...)

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                      OliveJuice123 Apr 25, 2008 07:10 AM

                      I believe you are asking which pastas are recommended at Via Emilia, correct? If so, I would highly recommend the Tortelloni di Pollo, it has chicken and wild mushroom in a truffle olive oil and is delicious. I also really like the frutti di Mare, which I asked for with one of their homemade pastas, and some of the raviolis. I had a fresh-made spinich pasta special once with pomadora, and it was only okay, kind of bland. It is located on 21st between Broadway and Park, and it can be a little loud in the restaurant.

                      At Bar Pitti, I recommend everything! Seriously, everything I have ever eaten there has been delicious--the raviolis, specials, I crave the pounded chicken with sundried tomatoes...it is located on 6th Ave between Houston and Bleeker, right next to Da Silvano (which I have never eaten at).

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                        Pan Apr 25, 2008 10:33 PM

                        Thanks. I really appreciate the recommendations.

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                          Miss Needle Apr 25, 2008 10:37 PM

                          Tripe is one of their specialties. Though I think mine tastes better, DH said Bar Pitti has the best preparation of tripe he's ever had.

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                            Pan Apr 25, 2008 10:50 PM

                            I love tripe. What style do they make their tripe in?

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                              Miss Needle Apr 25, 2008 10:57 PM

                              It's honeycomb tripe in a simple tomato sauce topped with Pecorino, I think (or a combo of pecorino and parmesan). If you've eaten at Babbo, it's similar to their tripe.

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                                Pan Apr 26, 2008 01:57 AM

                                I have yet to go to Babbo. That doesn't sound like either Trippa alla Romana or Trippa alla Napoletana, because both of those also contain hot peppers and are very spicy.

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                                  Miss Needle Apr 29, 2008 10:11 AM

                                  You know, I never had trippa alla romana that was spicy ever before. Perhaps a tiny bit of dried red chili pepper but nothing I can classify as spicy.

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                                    Pan May 8, 2008 03:21 AM

                                    Interesting. I had Trippa alla Romana at a trattoria in Trastevere. It had a lot of quite spicy green peppers sliced up in it and was considerably spicy.

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                                      Miss Needle May 9, 2008 10:45 AM

                                      Perhaps it's a regional difference. I've never been to Italy so I can't tell you what the tripe is there. But the versions I've had in the States, none of them have been spicy. And I've seen your reports on Chinese food, so your idea of spicy probably means more than the one arbol chile they may use in a whole pot of tripe.

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                                        Pan May 9, 2008 04:08 PM

                                        Most definitely. I figure that one chile in a whole pot would just give a little flavoring.

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                    waterbuffalo Apr 23, 2008 08:24 AM

                    I really, really love Lupa.

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                      xigua Apr 23, 2008 06:46 AM

                      Po!
                      Via Emilia's good for northern italian fare, inexpensive, but only takes cash.
                      http://orderinny.wordpress.com/2008/0...

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                        Lucia Apr 22, 2008 06:49 PM

                        Lupa. I love Peasant too, but it is a little pricey.

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                          kobetobiko Apr 22, 2008 06:43 PM

                          Peasant is great and very reasonably priced. If you know Italian then it is even better!

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                            robinsilver Apr 22, 2008 05:58 PM

                            How about going to Astoria? Trattoria L'Incontro would fit the bill.

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                              10yrresident Apr 22, 2008 05:56 PM

                              I would suggest Otto. 5th Ave at 8th Street. This is the "cheap" Mario Batali place. I am not crazy about the pizzas, but the pastas, vegetables, sides, etc. are very good.

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                                MagnumWino Apr 22, 2008 06:15 PM

                                I totally agree with the Otto suggestion. Pastas and apps and of course the wines are all top notch. I know this place gets mixed reviews here, but we've always had a great time here and love the atmosphere and Dennis (the bartender) is great. In fact, having been to Babbo as well as Otto, every bartender I've had the pleasure of waiting on me, has been outstanding. Knowledgable and personable.

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                                  Pappardelle Apr 25, 2008 10:58 PM

                                  i was really put off by the atmosphere. i am not from NY but i went there on a saturday night when visiting my sister, and the loud music made conversation IMPOSSIBLE. I am not a granny either - 30 years old! I don't know if it is always like that. I preferred Lupa much more to that.
                                  Someone told me they crank up the music so people will drink more - not talk. I will post something on general Chowhounding right now!

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                                    sam1 Apr 29, 2008 06:05 AM

                                    otto's food is pretty horrid. the pastas are not homemade...its like an assembly line in there. i felt like i was eating at an italian ikea.

                                    da andrea on hudson is the best least expensive italian ive found.

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                                      OliveJuice123 Apr 29, 2008 10:34 AM

                                      I forgot about da andrea--it is delicious, i definitely second the recommendation

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                                  Blumie Apr 22, 2008 02:01 PM

                                  Le Zie, 7th Avenue and 20th St.

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                                    nycgirl08 Apr 29, 2008 05:39 AM

                                    How is Le Zie? I saw mixed reviews..

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                                      Lucia Apr 29, 2008 11:15 AM

                                      Pretty solid. Not worth going out of your way for but good if you're in the area, especially at the price point. I think I'd stick to pastas when ordering.

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                                        Blumie May 9, 2008 10:23 AM

                                        I don't recall mixed review on this board. That said I agree with Lucia that it's a great neighborhood place, with solid food at reasonable prices, but I wouldn't traverse Manhattan to get there. I do, however, disagree about sticking with the pasta. Although I usually order their spaghetti and meatballs -- which are fabulous -- they do a fine job with meats and fish too.

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                                      foodnwine Apr 22, 2008 01:58 PM

                                      Cacio e Pepe is very good.Food is good but what stands out the most is the warmth of the place and the friendly service.I've eaten there 3 times and loved it every time.Would say the food is good,not great.But very authentic and half-way through our first meal there we felt like regulars.It's on 2nd Ave,between 11th and 12th.

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                                        Captain Apr 22, 2008 01:27 PM

                                        Cantina Toscana, 1st Ave. just below 61st St., across the Ave from Bed, Bath & Beyond. The food is great, and it is run by italians, who are not trying to turn the tabels over quickly. One of my favorites. Order the gnudi for an appetizer.

                                        1. jakew8 Apr 22, 2008 11:35 AM

                                          How resilient is your bank?

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