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"Better Than Bouillon" - how long does it last once opened?

Low Country Jon Apr 21, 2008 07:39 PM

I like the results I get using this brand of stock concentrate, especially the ham base, but I've always wondered how long they are good for once opened and placed in the fridge. On one hand they have lots of salt in them and the bottles themselves are not heat sealed, just ringed with a tamper proof plastic strip, so I figure they must be pretty shelf stable. On the other hand, they are made from meat juices, among other things! Any thoughts?

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  1. rose water RE: Low Country Jon Apr 21, 2008 07:49 PM

    we only use the vegetarian one, and go through it over a couple month period without any problems. i imagine the salty sludge is a pretty inhospitable environment for cooties.

    interestingly, the most recent cooks illustrated gave a big thumbs down to the veggie better than bullion (and just about all other commercial veggie broths)

    1. saltwater RE: Low Country Jon Apr 21, 2008 08:35 PM

      I read that they keep about 16 months in the fridge. I don't remember where, though. I think CI. I'm going to rummage a minute and see...

      Uh, that was an 18 month refrigerator shelf life for the chicken kind in the may-june 2005 issue. Since it is refrigerated only once opened, I assume this means once opened. The context implies that.

      1. chefschickie RE: Low Country Jon Apr 21, 2008 08:42 PM

        Haha, Funny you mention it. Last week I was using the Beef one and after adding it to the dish i read the expiration date to be october 2007........ It still seemed to be fine, just a little less intense flavor... And neither DH or I got sick.... haha!

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          RobynnR RE: chefschickie Jan 30, 2011 02:19 PM

          I wonder if 2009 chicken BTB would be OK??? .... hmmmm .... and I wonder if I have the guts to try it! (in more ways than 1!) ;)

        2. coll RE: Low Country Jon Jan 30, 2011 02:34 PM

          The answer is, forever. Believe me. Sort of like bacon fat.

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            kaleokahu RE: coll Jan 30, 2011 04:01 PM

            coll: x2 on the forever part. This stuff is SO salty, forever may be a little short.

            I'm amused by the name the manufacturer chose. The flavors I've tried definitely are better than cubed bouilon, but it's still not very good.

            Do folks here really like it?

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              coll RE: kaleokahu Jan 30, 2011 04:07 PM

              I've never used "Better than Bouillon" I should have said just bases in general. I've used Minor, Custom, Legout, Knorr all the usual suspects, and am assuming that this brand is basically the same type of thing?

              1. re: kaleokahu
                monku RE: kaleokahu Jan 30, 2011 04:18 PM

                I don't find BTB salty, they claim lower sodium and no fat and 1/3 less salt than other bouillons.
                http://www.superiortouch.com/retail/p...

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                  kaleokahu RE: monku Jan 30, 2011 05:36 PM

                  monku: Wow, maybe we've had different batches. I like salt, a lot actually--I tend to use more in cooking than my family and guests want.

                  My experiences w/ BTB have been limited to "beefing up" scratch stocks that I thought needed more flavor. Even at half-strength (for the whole volume of stock), the results have been eyes-swell-shut salty. And when I tried reducing the stock any, it's been inedibly so.

                  I'll try the "low salt" version next time around.

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                    bulavinaka RE: monku Jan 30, 2011 06:57 PM

                    We like the stuff as well. We add to taste - I rarely follow instructions on stuff like this. The one currently sold at Costco in MdR specifies exactly as you mention on the label - plus organic.

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                      kaleokahu RE: monku Jan 30, 2011 07:47 PM

                      monku: Wow, we must have different batches. I like salt--a lot. So much so that family and friends kid me about it.

                      My experiences w/ BTB are limited to soups and stocks. I use it to "beef up" stocks that lack enough flavor. Even at half strength (for a total volume of stock), I find it too salty, as in swells-your-eyes-shut-tomorrow. If you try to reduce the stock--or you make the mistake of salting the liquid at all before you add it--it is pretty much inedible to me.

                      I have some BTB Clam Base in my fridge. An 8-oz. jar has 26 grams of salt, which works out at 680 mg (28% of your RDA) per teaspoon of goop/half pint of stock. If my math is right, a quart of reconstituted clam stock would have about 3.5 g of salt. More if you like more flavor.

                      Thanks for the link though. I'll try their "reduced sodium" formulation next time.

                      1. re: kaleokahu
                        monku RE: kaleokahu Jan 30, 2011 08:25 PM

                        Just looked at the jar of regular BTB chicken base in my refrigerator and it has the same amount of sodium as the clam base (680 mg).
                        I just don't find the chicken base to be salty and I don't use salt when cooking or add salt to my food when dining out.

                    2. re: kaleokahu
                      LorenM RE: kaleokahu Jan 30, 2011 06:07 PM

                      I actually love their bases when I don't have the raw ingredients (drippings) to make my own stock or need to stretch the stock I have. It has a more rounded "cooked/ roasted" flavor than any powder base and I like the control I have more than carton broth (as you can only concentrate that flavor by cooking it down or doctoring it up). Plus I feel sort of comforted to know it lasts forever and only takes up a small amount of space in my fridge and is always there if I need a quick impromptu gravy or something. It is salty as bases are however I don't add a ton of salt to most things til the end of constructing anyway (to taste)and realize beforehand it is a salty ingredient so I adjust, No biggie.

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                        kaleokahu RE: LorenM Jan 30, 2011 09:44 PM

                        LorenM: I agree totally that BTB is very convenient, and it really is superior to boullion cubes (Sometimes I feel like I'd rather gouge my eyes out that unwrap another old sticky cube!). And I do like their variety of choices.

                        And yes, I've had to adjust my stock-making to omit all salt unless/until I take the decision to "cheat" or not with BTB. This has been a big adjustment for me because to me, unsalted stock does not taste as rich as salted. I know that's probably not the right way to go about making stock, but old habits die hard.

                        "...lasts forever..." I get that. Sort of like balsalmic vinegar and Worcestershire Sauce.

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                    zenofpie RE: Low Country Jon Jan 30, 2011 07:21 PM

                    Just yesterday, I through out my jar of clam base which was 3 years old. I use the beef, chicken and turkey bases and the Costco size lasts for months and months, just finished the beef which I probably bought 2 yrs ago.

                    1. monku RE: Low Country Jon Jan 30, 2011 08:21 PM

                      According to the company their products are good 2 years from when it is produced.
                      The expiration date is 2 years from the production date open or unopened. "The Best Buy Purchase Date" is the expiration date.
                      http://www.superiortouch.com/retail/faq

                      1. FoodFuser RE: Low Country Jon Jan 31, 2011 02:26 AM

                        It resides in a softly loved place in my fridge
                        nestled amongst the mess of my misos.

                        Expiry dates? They afford not a question.
                        It's simmered down meat and bones with plenty of salt.

                        Just adjust sodium intake with the help of the label,
                        and have no concerns about the time of its lasting.

                        In each of our ancestries there are hikers and seekers
                        sent forth on a journey to bring back some salt.

                        1. mels RE: Low Country Jon Jan 31, 2011 04:54 AM

                          I always have some BTB on hand to use in a pinch or when I just need a touch of broth in a dish. I work off of the same jar for at least a year, probably more, with no notice to a change in quality or any ill effects. I agree that it probably will last forever when refrigerated.

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